I am sorry but anyone who says this game is good never understood what Star Trek was all about.  What is comming next, a re-re-re review of the game where it gets great scores.  I just wish that someone would review a game without it looking like they are getting something in return for a good review.

Originally posted by ScribbleLay1

I am sorry but anyone who says this game is good never understood what Star Trek was all about.  

 

Or maybe different people just have different opinions about what is "good" and also about "what Star Trek was all about". Shocking, isnt it?

Gene Roddenberry used to tell his writers that Star Trek was about Character Development, and STO doesn't have any.

Originally posted by SeanBlader

Gene Roddenberry used to tell his writers that Star Trek was about Character Development, and STO doesn't have any.

 

If by character development you mean the sitting around talking that made up 99% of most Trek episodes, your right, STO doesnt have that. As it turns out most MMO players want to be doing some form of activity rather than just reading lots of text. Go figure!

Depth? Seriously?

I've played off and on since launch, there is no depth to the game. It still has major bugs that have been there since launch, and the content is as thin as paper.

I've given the game all I care to now. It is just bad. Repetative doesn't even cover doing the same missions over and over and over again. Then, they add a shiney to the same mission and re-release it...again.

And the skill tree isn't complex, it is just plain idiotic and makes no logical sense. Balance across the board is just awful and made worse with each tweak.

The game MUST go FTP, no one with any sense would continue to pay for it.

Character developement is alot more than just talking. Get real.

Originally posted by Harryhausen

Character developement is alot more than just talking. Get real.

 

What is your personal definition, and what is an MMO that you think has good character development?

Originally posted by Harryhausen

Depth? Seriously?

I've played off and on since launch, there is no depth to the game. It still has major bugs that have been there since launch, and the content is as thin as paper.

I've given the game all I care to now. It is just bad. Repetative doesn't even cover doing the same missions over and over and over again. Then, they add a shiney to the same mission and re-release it...again.

And the skill tree isn't complex, it is just plain idiotic and makes no logical sense. Balance across the board is just awful and made worse with each tweak.

The game MUST go FTP, no one with any sense would continue to pay for it.

This would be a better post if any of it were true...Well, I'll give you the ebenfit of the doubt on the playing off and on since launch part. Unless you can actually cite specific examples?

Originally posted by Harryhausen

I've given the game all I care to now. It is just bad. Repetative doesn't even cover doing the same missions over and over and over again.

Can you give an example of an MMO that doesnt have repetitive and or very similar quests?

I still play every once in a while and enjoy it when I have time. I definitely consider STO to be more casual and approachable than most MMOs though. This is probably because of the subject matter and I enjoy that.

Originally posted by MegaMouth

I still play every once in a while and enjoy it when I have time. I definitely consider STO to be more casual and approachable than most MMOs though. This is probably because of the subject matter and I enjoy that.

I think I would call myself a hard core casual players =P I like to play a mission or two at a time, but do not enjoy playing for hours at a time in any game. So several times a day I'll log in an do a star cluster mission. If I get ready for something with a more in depth story I'll see whats new in the Foundry and try out one of the recommendations on Starbase UGC:

http://starbaseugc.com/

As soon as I needed to use two different computer stations to teleport someone, I knew this game was not written by people who had the slightest knowledge what they were doing. Not to mention the gameplay itself is terrible. One more colossal failure.

Originally posted by Grand_Nagus

Why didnt you wait for the F2P launch and all the updates that will be a part of that? I cant help but remember how the last re-review was done just before Season 4. What is the logic in doing articles on games right before they get a big update?

 

Eh, the last one had a legitimate reason; the piece had been done already, and they decided to run with it even though Season 4 was on its way. This time, I see no reason for the review this close to the F2P conversion; especially when he's only played it a few hours.

can i be a borg yet? or is that still only for the morons who preordered the lifetime sub?

until they let me be a borg on a F2P account that i have yet to create, they'd have to pay me to play this POS CoH clone.

Originally posted by Grand_Nagus

Originally posted by SeanBlader

Gene Roddenberry used to tell his writers that Star Trek was about Character Development, and STO doesn't have any.

 

If by character development you mean the sitting around talking that made up 99% of most Trek episodes, your right, STO doesnt have that. As it turns out most MMO players want to be doing some form of activity rather than just reading lots of text. Go figure!

that must why this game was such a shocking success, because the devs had such a masterful handle on giving the players what they wanted from this franchise...

The trouble I had with this game was that it's based on something that has so much depth with some of the richest storylines in television history yet when I play the game it's a painfuly shallow ghost of what I expect. I'm going to play SWTOR when it launches and I expect much the same level of workmanship from that game as I did STO.

A few shitty instances just doesn't cut the mustard for these IPs ... FACT!

its like playing a special ed star trek costume party.

The same defenders rush in to hack away at anyone that disrespects their crappy game once more.

I am a life long Trek fan. I gave the game every chance I could. It is just so bad, even a hard core Trekkie can't take it for long.

Bugs, shallow content that is so wrong it makes you wonder if they ever saw a Trek episode, and so instanced it feels like you are constantly playing in a tiny shoebox.

Most MMOs are somewhat repetative, the good one's hide it well. STO doesn't even try. The game actually makes you repeat the same content over and over. Not "similar" content, the same exact missions. It gets so boring so quickly, that you wonder why you paid for it.

It's very telling that the bulk of the playerbase is around level 20 more than a year and a half after launch. By the time you level that far, you smack right into the fact that you are doing the same content over and over, get bored, and leave.

Add to that the serious lack of endgame and the hand writing is on the wall.

I see no reason for this to change under FTP.

The way they are setting FTP up pretty much implies that subs are not a priority. Everything is going into the MT store. Most all "content" has anyway to this point, but after FTP, all of it will go in there with just enough given freely to give the illusion of value.

The only thing keeping the game afloat now is that many of the players left playing collect anything that is put in the store. Like their "toy rooms" at home, Trekkers are actually collecting digital ships and costumes as if they were real objects.

Cryptic has seen just how far fans will go to get ever single item in the store whether they need it or not. The entire FTP moel is based on the store supporting the game, not subs because they have been shown over and over again just how much some fans will spend on collecting.

It's a sad substitute for a real game, but there you have it.

Originally posted by Agricola1

The trouble I had with this game was that it's based on something that has so much depth with some of the richest storylines in television history yet when I play the game it's a painfuly shallow ghost of what I expect. I'm going to play SWTOR when it launches and I expect much the same level of workmanship from that game as I did STO.

A few shitty instances just doesn't cut the mustard for these IPs ... FACT!

You must not have played the Featured Episodes:

http://startrekonline.com/feature_episodes

Those are literally the closest thing to playing a Trek episode your going to get.

Originally posted by Harryhausen

Most MMOs are somewhat repetative, the good one's hide it well.

Which ones "hide" being repetitive?