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Hello all, I have a problem where I was running 2g of Kingston HyperX 800 DDR2 I went and bought 4 more gigs of Normal Kingston. Placed the RAM in order of 2/1/2/1 with the 2's being my main RAM slots Now I installed my copy of Windows 7 64 bit and starting install drivers when my firefox locked up. I ran a mem test for 2 hours with no bad feedback. Used Firefox and I got a hard lock up Used Chrome and I got a hard lock up Used IE explorer and I got a hard lock up. Played The Old Republic for 9 hours pushing a 42' screen and 1080P with max Gfx setting NO lockups Let it sit on desktop with NO open apps NO lock ups Tried every max and match with new RAM I get lock ups ONLY when browsing Pulled out the new ram NO lock ups so far.
Also changed my wierless drivers..
would LOVE any advice.
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10/03/11 2:38:42 PM#2
try removing the old RAM from the system and just running the new stuff. If you still have lockups then I would suspect your new RAM is bunk, but mixmatched memory can definately cause problems and using hyper-x with KVR is mismatched.
just as an FYI, I am currently troubleshooting a system that has the same problem (locks up in web-browsers) but it is not running mixed ram. I will update what resolved this problem once I have it figured out.
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Old RAM is fine, No lock ups yet. So yeah only locks up with any new RAM in system but only when Browsing. Also why only when Browsing? Played over 8 Hrs of hard gamming with NO problems at all with the new RAM in
Edit: Also my HyperX is 2V and my BIOS is running 5/5/5/15. New ram is 1.8V and from what I could find on the web it uses 4/5/5/15 |
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Well im off to work for 8 hours or so. Check back in tonight. |
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10/03/11 3:08:26 PM#5
The browsers are "trying" to minimize the RAM usage by separating plugins into separate processes. In case of Chrome, it generates multiple instance of Chorme.exe processes. In case of Firefox, it executes a process called plugincontainer.exe. I personally do not use IE so i have no input about this. Unfortunately, these are new feature which are not fully supported by many plugins and causes more RAM usage rather than less. Of course, my reply is based on my own exprience and in case of Firefox, you can turn the plugincontainer.exe off. As for your RAM, the timing of it might be causing it since one set are clocking faster that the other...I'm not really sure but this I suspect might be the case. |
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10/03/11 3:10:00 PM#6
hard lock? or soft lock? are you able to close the browser after the lock? it sounds more like a virus then anything.... did you do a clean install of win7? or just an upgrade install? it's hard to fault the RAM if you are able to game for 9 hrs w/o problems... i guess it can also be compatibility issue... i've seen mixed RAM(different manufacture/different model) do strange things before. |
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10/03/11 3:11:46 PM#7
If it's an option, return the RAM, and get a new set. Sometimes you just get bad RAM chips. I suspect this will clear up your problem. If it doesn't then at least you've narrowed down your search to locate the issue. |
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10/03/11 6:43:35 PM#8
The machine that we've been working on with the same problem appears to be resolved with RAM replacement. Extended tests overnight will prove our assumption. I just want to make sure that you have tried running the new memory WITHOUT any of your Hyper-X installed. Having the mixmatched memory can definately cause problems, and returning the new memory and replacing it with the same kind probably won't resolve the problem. If you want to keep the Hyper-X memory then buy more matched Hyper-x memory for the system. All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick. |
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10/03/11 8:52:43 PM#9
Worse comes to worse, Kingston is lifetime warranty - after testing both sets, if one set definitely doesn't work, send it in. If both sets work but not together, send in the slower set because it isn't compatible. Get a new set so that all your RAM matches exactly. |
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It's a hard lock..
Gonna try a few more things tonight and see..
Just odd it does not lock up during games...
EDIT: So clean install, Only have drivers and SwToR beta installed
So far New Ram hard locks with any browsing..
Old RAM can browse
Old RAM plus New RAM cant browse
Old plus new can do anything but browse.. |
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Also should I install the RAM 2/2/1/1 ... as in gigs of the sticks. I have a yellow slot then a black slot, then another yellow then another black.
Running 2 old sticks I ran 1/0/1/0 in each of the yellow slots
The new sticks are 2 gigs each so I went 2/1/2/1 |
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10/04/11 1:35:05 AM#12
its quite possible your ram timing is effecting the ram, its generally a safer bet to use all the same ram. as it deals with a good amount of ram related. try taking out all the ram and run each ram singluar, it could be that if the timing is not effecting it, maybe you have a faulty node. run each ram in each ram slot one at a time (to test the motherboard as well) while you say you play just fine with the old ram by it self its still best to test each ram on its own. just incase.
if that turns up nothing maybe try clocking your ram all the same speed (may mean lowering the older ram to the newer stuff, or OCing the new stuff to match timing) |
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well I ended up doing this..
Old RAM=1 New RAM=2
where I was running 2/1/2/1 or even 1/2/1/2
I changed it to 1/1/2/2
I posted with all 6 gigs..
So far no problems.. |
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Agricola1
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10/04/11 2:31:37 AM#14
Originally posted by B14cKs0L This is your punishment for getting into beta testing :P Congrats on getting in and I hope that pesky RAM sorts itself out may the force be with you .... always. "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience" |
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10/04/11 2:41:33 AM#15
must admit.. i wouldnt mind betting it was because of the mixed Ram too.. havent done that myself since i had a 486 dx100 ... and only use identical Ram in a system, no mix and match.. Ram problems can cause anything from badly running programs to data corruption in downloads.. one of the reasons why i use prime95 as a system test to make sure everything works without errors. |
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10/04/11 5:29:55 AM#16
Might want to check for a BIOS update too, they often improve ram compatibility with bios updates. |
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10/04/11 8:32:27 AM#17
Yeah, RAM issue for sure.
Check on your motherboard which slots are paired.
So for example the motherboard would pair them like this
a/a b/b or a/b a/b You would want to keep the setsof ram you have in a or b only and not mix them. so either 1/1 2/2 or 1/2 1/2 basically just matching what the motherboard is expecting.
Other than that download cpuid and check the ram is running at the same speed, if it isn't you should manually set it to run at the speed of the lower rated modules. |
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10/04/11 11:02:21 AM#18
by running the memory a/a/b/b you've disabled dual channel mode, and now it's in single channel mode. This is slower, and I would expect that you may still have memory problems as the usage gets higher. I would still replace your ram, and I would also still recommend that you match your ram or only run the new memory. All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick. |
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