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  karylmonmon

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9/29/11 11:04:07 PM#21

Wow. I am surprised by the majority of wrong answers to a simple question. This is not open to opinion or debate.
Technology came first. Technology is the methods people use to make things such as tools. It takes a technique to turn stones into arrowheads. Different cultures can be told apart by the way they do things. This has been going on since prehistory. Science is a methodology that has its roots in astrology and alchemy. These roots only go back a few thousand years, and what we call Science only goes back a few hundred years. Some things are true even it you can think of reasons why it might not be true. But this question is not open to debate.

  Brenelael

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9/29/11 11:25:21 PM#22
Originally posted by karylmonmon

Wow. I am surprised by the majority of wrong answers to a simple question. This is not open to opinion or debate.
Technology came first. Technology is the methods people use to make things such as tools. It takes a technique to turn stones into arrowheads. Different cultures can be told apart by the way they do things. This has been going on since prehistory. Science is a methodology that has its roots in astrology and alchemy. These roots only go back a few thousand years, and what we call Science only goes back a few hundred years. Some things are true even it you can think of reasons why it might not be true. But this question is not open to debate.

Sorry but you're wrong. Read my previous posts if you want to know why. Without science there would be no technology. It really baffles me why that is so hard for some people to comprehend. Science does not equal people in lab coats looking in microscopes in a lab somewhere. It is Observation and Experimentation... Period. Without those two things nothing in your post I highlighted would have been possible.

 

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  GTwander

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9/30/11 12:06:16 AM#23
Originally posted by karylmonmon


Technology came first. Technology is the methods people use to make things such as tools.

That makes absolutely no sense, let me fix it for you.

Science is the methods people use to make things such as tools.

Tools = Technology, regardless of the level it's at. A *STICK* is technology the moment it is used as a lever, and the only way someone would even consider using it as such is upon discovering it's nature as a lever. SCIENCE!!!

 

Let me give you a blatant example;

I hand you a wrench > you say "what the f**k is this for" > then I explain what it does

You had no clue what it does until I told you, and if left to figure it out, you'll apply scientific method to do so. You then can't say that the tool (tech) led you to science, because that tool was made/designed in the first place to be put to said use. It took science to make the damned tool.

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  Hazelle

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9/30/11 3:15:12 AM#24
Originally posted by twodayslate
Originally posted by GTwander
Originally posted by olliemasa

Technology came first. It's a fact.

Wrong.

This is a real chicken or the egg scenario, when we all know that the first chicken had to come from an egg. The same is with technology, it spawned from science.

Science is the art of observance, it's all based on watching/analyzing and probability. Technology is always invented using scientific methodology, even the first club comprised of a stick, twine and a rock came through observing the properties of the materials and using forethought to come up with an outcome - SCIENCE!!! The same applies to why phones are now computers and music devices, soon they will make it a microwave cooking device and stun gun. People apply the next possible option. (SCIENCE!!!)

Also, science doesn't come from a calculator or space probe, people had to know how to program the device to be accurate in the first place. Science wins.

Not sure if you can realistically label prehistoric discoveries as science, solely on the basis of simple tools being derived from observation.  Observational capacity would have been nothing more than a survival instinct for them, and they probably wouldn't have had the time or brain capacity to conduct the usual observe>hypothesize>test>refine hypothesis>test>declare results routine.  It would have been more along the lines of observe>test>refine observation (if your variation of the hunting party's weapon of choice doesn't get you killed by a large creature).

The point being that they wouldn't have had the resources to ponder over their creation to qualify it as science as we know it.  Labeling it as such would be tantamount to going to a monkey exhibit at the zoo and watching one smash open a nut with a rock, and calling it science.

At the time those simple tools were state of the art technology and the folks that invented or discovered them would count as scientists.

  blackcat35

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10/01/11 11:06:05 AM#25

science and technology go hand in hand.  You cannot have technology without science, and there is no point to science without the technological advances it allows.  The point of science is to have better technology.

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  Kisra

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10/01/11 7:51:59 PM#26

Science comes First  then Tech

for Example the PC ....... Science show you have to make the ships in the motherboard & CPU then there you are have new

Technology "called PC" .......

 

>>>>>>>>>BUT!<<<<<<<<<

To make tho componant of the PC you need other Tools (which count as other Tech) so ...

You have always to look at the beginning of both of them .. which i think! it might be was

the Stone and the Stick

small example 1Ton Huge stone human can't more it But! with long stick he might could move it

and if he got few more log he might to roll it on the ground

so what i think is really happning is

1st problem or Idea 

2nd Science and Technology help in solving that problem or in making that idea

>>>>>>>>>BUT!<<<<<<<<<

In the last example about stone and stick Science came first before the Technology coz if that person didn't know (Science) that long stick could help him and move that huge stone/rock he wouldn't use it ...

  entertowin

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10/02/11 8:34:37 PM#27

Well for me I chose Science........because I analyze my teachers opinion that the technology came first because of the early man that he said early man only uses tools to survive but the big thing is they did not know anything about science! If we based our theories in science but I believe in God of course.......But let’s talk about my answer that science came first........well for me i study that the early man doesn’t have brains!.......so they didn’t know that they are already doing science........like for example about the fire......I think the fire came from a thunder strike, that strike a tree.....so when the early man saw the fire they are curious about it....so they will try to discover it until they brains started to improve, so my main point is the early man doesn’t know about anything about what they are doing like they don’t know about the scientific terms........well there is some reasons why tech first before science........Well SCIENCE FIRST!!!!!
 

  accountings

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10/02/11 10:19:11 PM#28



None of them comes first, because each needs the other to succeed and prosper, are important both science and technology needs to help scientists discover things and the United Nations mask. Also technology needs to use, or buy you will find that the warehouses full of computers that no one but other scientists can use. if not to buy scientific equipment and technology companies will fail and have no money or to develop new fuel technologies. And there was no technology scientists could never complete a thorough investigation.

  ronaldoburns

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10/02/11 10:39:16 PM#29

Science and technology is a term of art used to encompass the relationship between science and technology. It frequently appears within titles of academic disciplines (science and technology studies) and government offices (Office of Science and Technology). for me it's technology and because in the early stoneage, man uses tools like rocks and woods to make a fire, make weapons, and other tools. Tools like these are considered as tehnology that’s why technology came first. It's a fact. Just like what the other stated, "More examples of technology happening with out the knowledge of science can be found like mummification thousands of years ago withe the Ancient Egyptians and how steel pans where made by persons of no harmonic scientific knowledge in the Caribbean. But how does one come about supporting scientific laws but through the use of technology....i would like some examples of case where science as occurred without any use of technology to support it." Technology would still develop WITHOUT science. On the other hand, science would have a hard time developing without technology. In the earliest years, cavemen have their own technology. Spears = technology. Science did not exist in those times. Cavemen did not research how to make a spear, it's practicality. If you would search the meaning of technology,

  Hypernia009

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10/03/11 3:32:45 AM#30
Its technology......because, before they invented science some "nomads" or our so called ancestors developed lots of technology before like the axe, axe is one of the technology that help our ancestors live in the past they use it to gather and hunt foods. 
 
  creatives11

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10/11/11 3:51:52 AM#31

I think Science. because in your going to alphabeticalize it  Science will be first followed by Technology. sounds crazy but its true. just logic..

  freeatlast12

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10/11/11 10:36:45 PM#32

My proffesor told me as well as google. science comes first because they are right. and also if you have any question just type it imto you google search bar. so simple

  GTwander

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10/11/11 10:45:52 PM#33

Here's something to ponder;

The concept of numbers/math - science or technology?

 

I think it may be the ONE thing where technology created a science. This is because numbers don't exist, it's an abstract idea, a logic tool, and It led to the many sciences depending on it.

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  beyorself11

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10/12/11 9:03:21 PM#34

technology. due to it's demand. I can still remeber that my dad told me that technology comes first because it is part of the science that deals with studying tehcnology

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