Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by Madimorga

And it's not self-defeating to avoid toxic encounters with other humans, in a game or anywhere else.  Unless of course you think it's self-defeating to avoid misery, anger, and frustration, none of which are good for one's mental or physical health.

What's toxic is the automatic assumption that the majority of encounters are with "toxic" people by default.

If you lean to seeing all other players as children, malcontents, troublemakers, or "toxic" in general, the problem just might be yours.

You assume I'm making assumptions rather than basing my people-avoidance policies on the nature of whatever game world I happen to be inhabiting.

And also, you still don't address my second point:  If leveling is mindlessly painful solo, why would I waste time doing the same mindless, painful grind with other players when I could just get my social kicks in a chatroom and save some money?  MMOs cannot and should not continue to churn out the same tired formulas, then expect players to provide the entertainment for each other.

Originally posted by Madimorga

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by Madimorga

And it's not self-defeating to avoid toxic encounters with other humans, in a game or anywhere else.  Unless of course you think it's self-defeating to avoid misery, anger, and frustration, none of which are good for one's mental or physical health.

What's toxic is the automatic assumption that the majority of encounters are with "toxic" people by default.

If you lean to seeing all other players as children, malcontents, troublemakers, or "toxic" in general, the problem just might be yours.

 

You assume I'm making assumptions rather than basing my people-avoidance policies on the nature of whatever game world I happen to be inhabiting.

 

And also, you still don't address my second point:  If leveling is mindlessly painful solo, why would I waste time doing the same mindless, painful grind with other players when I could just get my social kicks in a chatroom and save some money?  MMOs cannot and should not continue to churn out the same tired formulas, then expect players to provide the entertainment for each other.

 Valid point sir valid point.

Originally posted by ActionMMORPG

Originally posted by Shrilly

Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

 

I'd be happy to find something even moderately entertaining.  Doing 100 task quests to gain 1 level doesn't cut it for me.  I'm too old and slow to enjoy PVP.

 

What I'd really like is grouped dungeon runs with friendlies who aren't elitists, antagonists or those who like to screw up a dungeon run because they think it's funny.

 

What I end up doing is finding grindy games with decent communities, and passing the time there.  At least it's a way to feel like I'm at least playing something.

Id say try dragon nest :)

Originally posted by Shawn964

Originally posted by ActionMMORPG

Originally posted by Shrilly

Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

 

I'd be happy to find something even moderately entertaining.  Doing 100 task quests to gain 1 level doesn't cut it for me.  I'm too old and slow to enjoy PVP.

 

What I'd really like is grouped dungeon runs with friendlies who aren't elitists, antagonists or those who like to screw up a dungeon run because they think it's funny.

 

What I end up doing is finding grindy games with decent communities, and passing the time there.  At least it's a way to feel like I'm at least playing something.

Id say try dragon nest :)

OK this may be because its just a video but dragon nest looks AWSOME why did no one hit on this mmo yet????

Originally posted by Shrilly

Originally posted by Shawn964

Originally posted by ActionMMORPG

Originally posted by Shrilly

Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

 

I'd be happy to find something even moderately entertaining.  Doing 100 task quests to gain 1 level doesn't cut it for me.  I'm too old and slow to enjoy PVP.

 

What I'd really like is grouped dungeon runs with friendlies who aren't elitists, antagonists or those who like to screw up a dungeon run because they think it's funny.

 

What I end up doing is finding grindy games with decent communities, and passing the time there.  At least it's a way to feel like I'm at least playing something.

Id say try dragon nest :)

OK this may be because its just a video but dragon nest looks AWSOME why did no one hit on this mmo yet????

Because the swift, instanced dungeons are not really conducive to a good community and you will acheive cap in a couple of days and then get a bit bored jumping around dungeons.  Is fun for a brief while though.  If you want to stand in a lobby and wait for instances to pop I would be more inclined to play World of Tanks (to Action MMORPG: it is pvp, but old and slow pvp). 

Originally posted by PioneerStew

Originally posted by Shrilly

Originally posted by Shawn964

Originally posted by ActionMMORPG

Originally posted by Shrilly

Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

 

I'd be happy to find something even moderately entertaining.  Doing 100 task quests to gain 1 level doesn't cut it for me.  I'm too old and slow to enjoy PVP.

 

What I'd really like is grouped dungeon runs with friendlies who aren't elitists, antagonists or those who like to screw up a dungeon run because they think it's funny.

 

What I end up doing is finding grindy games with decent communities, and passing the time there.  At least it's a way to feel like I'm at least playing something.

Id say try dragon nest :)

OK this may be because its just a video but dragon nest looks AWSOME why did no one hit on this mmo yet????

Because the swift, instanced dungeons are not really conducive to a good community and you will acheive cap in a couple of days and then get a bit bored jumping around dungeons.  Is fun for a brief while though.  If you want to stand in a lobby and wait for instances to pop I would be more inclined to play World of Tanks (to Action MMORPG: it is pvp, but old and slow pvp). 

Well i love that you have to aim and you shoot and all i saw the ripperx version of the video he seems to REALLY enjoy it well i guess i founf my filler for a long time apparently they updated it for a 32ish cap? seems tyo be updated nicely and i LOVE the gameplay feature of it that you have to aim and all pvp would be amazing like this and to dodge on your own etc this is a REAL game

Originally posted by Shrilly

Originally posted by PioneerStew

Originally posted by Shrilly

Originally posted by Shawn964

Originally posted by ActionMMORPG

Originally posted by Shrilly

Right now i would love to be playing a game i enjoy a lot.

 

I'd be happy to find something even moderately entertaining.  Doing 100 task quests to gain 1 level doesn't cut it for me.  I'm too old and slow to enjoy PVP.

 

What I'd really like is grouped dungeon runs with friendlies who aren't elitists, antagonists or those who like to screw up a dungeon run because they think it's funny.

 

What I end up doing is finding grindy games with decent communities, and passing the time there.  At least it's a way to feel like I'm at least playing something.

Id say try dragon nest :)

OK this may be because its just a video but dragon nest looks AWSOME why did no one hit on this mmo yet????

Because the swift, instanced dungeons are not really conducive to a good community and you will acheive cap in a couple of days and then get a bit bored jumping around dungeons.  Is fun for a brief while though.  If you want to stand in a lobby and wait for instances to pop I would be more inclined to play World of Tanks (to Action MMORPG: it is pvp, but old and slow pvp). 

Well i love that you have to aim and you shoot and all i saw the ripperx version of the video he seems to REALLY enjoy it well i guess i founf my filler for a long time apparently they updated it for a 32ish cap? seems tyo be updated nicely and i LOVE the gameplay feature of it that you have to aim and all pvp would be amazing like this and to dodge on your own etc this is a REAL game

Regarding pvp in Dragonage, unless things have changed melee is far better than ranged since they can close the gap or dodge very quickly while you wait for your skills to charge.  Having a 2 second delay on your best dps moves means that time and time again they have disappeared over the horizon or are twatting you about the head with a big stick before you have loosed a single arrow or spell.  It gets very frustrating very quickly.  

I'm so tired of waiting around... I just resurrected my DAoC account .

srsly

while waiting around for gw2 ive been enjoying 2011 because even though mmos have sucked these last few years 2011 has been the best year in recent history for non-mmos and every month this year a good single player game has been released

Originally posted by Shrilly
Dragon nest not dragonage look up ripperx 's video its amazing

Sorry, meant Dragonnest: got Bioware on the mind at the moment as I await my next MMO.

Originally posted by kedoremos

Originally posted by Sovrath

You guys do know that there is a whole world out there with experiences that completely surpass video game right?

You have over 10,000 posts.

 

 

...

 

 

Ten thousand.

Haha, thats exactly what I said in my head when I read that. Anyways, yea Im waiting for GW2, Wildstar, Firefall and ArcheAge. Also, have you guys looked at Otherland? That looks like its on a whole nother plane of logic. It reminds me of the virtual worlds I and im sure a lot of you thought of growing up as children.

Originally posted by punchrx

Originally posted by kedoremos

Originally posted by Sovrath

You guys do know that there is a whole world out there with experiences that completely surpass video game right?

You have over 10,000 posts.

 

 

...

 

 

Ten thousand.

Haha, thats exactly what I said in my head when I read that. Anyways, yea Im waiting for GW2, Wildstar, Firefall and ArcheAge. Also, have you guys looked at Otherland? That looks like its on a whole nother plane of logic. It reminds me of the virtual worlds I and im sure a lot of you thought of growing up as children.

Otherlands is alright i looked at the trailer wasn't a lot of detail if you would like to explain it better. My child growing up fantasy was Final Fantasy with cloud and maybe FF Versus. Otherland looks interesting enough tho looks like a SIM rather than a mmo game tho.

Yeah, there is a game and are games I want to play but they haven't made it/them yet.

If it ain't one danged thing that'll ruin a game, there's another. My last favorite game got the axe because of a hardware change. I suspect I may never see anything of it's likeness again.

I come here to keep up with what's going on in the gaming world, but  I spend most of my time looking into fishing.

I went Ultima Online, Everquest, Asherons Call, Aion, Rift (I skipped Wow, busier years).

Now I'm bored so I'm helping with a community MMO

http://www.dragonadventures.org

and just waiting for the Old Republic to come out... I just hope they dont mess up end game PvP because its the only thing that can prolong a game...

and that is why finding a fulfilling MMO will be hard to find.....

   " A vast majority of gamers want the "end game" " or so corporate america has been led to believe that.  Gone are the days when an indy developer makes a game in their garage and shock the world.  Gone are the days where it takes days / weeks to gain 1 level your character, most of today's gamers want that instant gratification or rush from fast leveling / PvP / and getting to the end game.  To me, the advent of 2nd generation  MMO's did a few things to the gaming community, things that can not be undone.  

1.  Made MMO's available to the casual gamer, taking the content and difficulty with it.

2.  Virtually sucked the life out of different types of game development, besides MMO's.

3.  The popularity with console games adds to the instant  gratification mantra.

4.  Through repeated trashing, jokes and villification, the pick up group is dead.

5.  And by extension, companies and websites posting game information to solve quests, suggest build and so on, the day the game is released.

  I too would like to see a game with depth, backstory, learning curve and where grouping is the norm, not the exception.  But that would take changing the paradigm of modern game development.

I basically just gave up on MMO gaming. Ran out of things to play, everything is so original, promising so much and never delivered it. Also being reptitive and unoriginal. So basically all I play is runescape now, only because atleast I have a choice of 24+ skills I can mess with when I get bored with another. Show me an MMO that can impress me. Preferably an RPG with a fantasy theme.