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  shakermaker0

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9/27/11 9:33:15 AM#21

this isn't a review.


  Inktomi

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9/27/11 9:33:18 AM#22

"I played FFXI for 7 years. This game FF14 is worse than the launch if XI even after 14 has been out for a year. Everquest 1's launch in the 1990s did better than this game."

 

Didn't FFXI make you feel like you were a part of something from the beginning? I remember logging in on my PS2 for the first time and feeling blown away. It felt so alive in San D'oria, I was knocked out when I finally got to Jeuno. Does FFXIV capture any of that? Why would they go away from a formula that seemingly works?

 

  Khebeln

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9/27/11 9:41:25 AM#23
I tryed it a month ago again and i didint feel like it changed back since beta, maybe even got worse timisation wise. I gave up on the game after few days of trying to make the mouse control work as it should. If they cant even make the game work with basic pc controls instead of pad then its waste of time in the end, as the game got low quality and polish. This game pretty much finished the era of releasing unfinished mmos.


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  raistlinm

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9/27/11 9:41:54 AM#24
Originally posted by deadmilk
Originally posted by Kraiser

And to everyone bashing about this coming out right before 1.19 read the Editor's Note at the top and stop being blind. This was written after 1.18 came out.

Yeah.. but what's the point of writing this when 1.19 is gonna overhaul damn near everything?

How about because it hasn't done it yet???And until it actually does this is the game as it exists today maybe???

FFXIV fans we get that you love the game and I would hope the rest of the mmorpg community would afford you the right to love a game that seems to present a range of emotions for a range of people from love to hate to the dreaded lack of confidence in the games developers.

But please stop with the constant posts about how articles should not be written on the game in it's present state for mmorpg to do that would be very unfair to it's customers who know nothing about this game as it is TODAY.

When they re reviewed the game after an entire year on the market you guys did the same thing pitched a fit about how some other miracle patch (either 1.18 or 1.19) was around the corner and how dare they do a reveal on the game as it exists today.

The truth is they have had multiple patches over the year and none of those patches has stopped the game from being in a state that calls for bad reviews so why should we assume the next one won't be the same as all the others and not change enough to make the game worth paying for with most of the people who may have an interest in the game.

Patches are always around the corner as you say so why not just not review anything since it will only be different in a few weeks,months,or years.

What boggles my mind the most though is if you guys are too thin skinned to accept criticism from a game that you only play (didn't give birth to) why waste your time reading an article you know is only going to trash the game because it is based on a build that doesn't take all the stink off of the game.

Honestly if you guys gave SE even half the crap you give the mmorpg writers they wouldn't be in a position to trash this game every two to three months.

  KanoRain

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9/27/11 9:43:31 AM#25

The thing that no one has noted, is there is NO grouping in the game.  You do levies up to max level then do one of two things, sit around and talk to people ONLY IN YOUR LINKSHELL (the game is completely devoid of community) or craft.


 


Have fun, at least it's free.


Originally posted by Deleted User

So much of the game is centered around forced grouping that soloing is not an option, major design flaw in my opinion.

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  TheFirst109

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9/27/11 9:53:49 AM#26

Originally posted by KanoRain

The thing that no one has noted, is there is NO grouping in the game.  You do levies up to max level then do one of two things, sit around and talk to people ONLY IN YOUR LINKSHELL (the game is completely devoid of community) or craft.




 




Have fun, at least it's free.





 


Well you just put your foot in your mouth because this at least is definitely not true. They revamped leves a while back so that grouping and killing monsters as a group can be far better exp than doing leves. In 1.19 this is going to change even more with more beast camps to bring back the ffxi style of grouping and xp chains.


  Delsus1

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9/27/11 10:08:36 AM#27

This was a shortened carbon copy of the previous review, it mentioned nothing new, just some guy playing to rank 20 (which takes 1 day) then saying the whole game is rubbish, whats wrong doesnt your PC have enough RAM to copy and paste the whole previous review.


MMORPG.com, do yourselves a favor and get your reviewers to actually play the game, again this review is saying nothing has been changed since release, because they couldnt be bothered to play past rank 20, the playerbase mainly wanted endgame, seeing as most of the playerbase has multiple rank 50s, so SE are giving them that endgame or the game will have no players, everyone will just say well I'm rank 50 now and theres nothing to do, if they were adding content for the lower ranks.


Also about the UI, the reviewer fails to notice that the game is going to be released on PS3 as well as PC, therefore they need a UI that caters for both, having a UI that was focused around PC would completly lock the PS3 out mainly due to the lack of a mouse.


This is another sub-par review by MMORPG.com that covers nothing seriously it would have taken less than 2 days to get 25 and enter Toto-Rak to see somthing new.


These reviewers are getting money to play games, which alot of people I know would love, but they still cant be bothered to play more than a few hours, oh and incase the reviewer didnt notice the story picks up a bit later on, but you have to get higher than rank 20 to see, so they will never be seen on MMORPG.com, because you will have to play more than 1 day.


I do agree the game still has faults, and alot of that is the server-side UI (which to the reviewer is why it take a lil time for things to regester, if you kept up with the official forums you would know this) crafting and gathering are very mononous, boring and over complicated (see some of the recipies) but crafting is being looked at in 1.19. Combat although was overhauled in 1.18 still needs some tweaks but the algorithms used will be ajusted in 1.19.


But overall the game has come along way since launch, which everyone except MMORPG reviewers and readers fail to notice, maybe because they only get rank 20.


Because most of the focus has been on endgame  this review has failed to mention them, making a post patch review that has not even touched the changes is just really stupid.


  Wraithone

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9/27/11 10:10:36 AM#28
Originally posted by deadmilk
Originally posted by Kraiser

And to everyone bashing about this coming out right before 1.19 read the Editor's Note at the top and stop being blind. This was written after 1.18 came out.

Yeah.. but what's the point of writing this when 1.19 is gonna overhaul damn near everything?

And how many times have we heard that?... Its been almost a YEAR now. If they were going to do it right, there has been more than sufficient time to see that come about.  Its too bad, as I really enjoyed many of the FF games over the years.  But SE has obviously lost their way, and might be best served to stick to console games in the future.  I shudder to think what their next attempt at an MMO would be like. 

  UsulDaNeriak

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9/27/11 10:12:56 AM#29

[QUOTE] My major problems with FFXIV when I last played in October, was its simple turgid, needlessly difficult, and downright stupid user interface. Unfortunately little has really changed in this aspect. [/QUOTE]


QFT


this is exactly the main killer for me. during beta i was very impressed about the graphics and the atmosphere of this game. but the UI enforced me to delete it. now i tried it again these days, but nothing has changed. this UI is made for a console, the worst way it could have been done from the point of view of a pc-player. as long as they do not fully replace this UI, i will not play it again.


such simple.


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  rwyan

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9/27/11 10:18:47 AM#30

I will say that the UI is a non-issue.  Does it follow the same control conventions of other MMOs? No.  But if you've played FFXI, then you will know how to use the UI.  It is awkward at first, but once you get acquainted with it, its actually pleasant to use.  All, if not most technical problems have been addressed.  Don't get me wrong, there is still some useability quirks, but like I said, once the content is there, it will be a non-issue.


The game does still have a ways to go in terms of long term, fun, engaging content.  Its getting there, especially now that they've worked out a lot of server/client technical issues.  Each content push is grander than the previous.  The overall gameplay mechanics are usually liked.  I imagine the game will need at least another 6 months before its soaring, providing SE continues to develop the game.


 


 


  Toxia

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9/27/11 10:21:11 AM#31

To start my post off i'll just go ahead and say "I AM, without a doubt, a FF fanboi. Always have been, always will be."

That being said.

This game sucks pretty hard.

To those complaining that the author didnt put enough time in to enjoy the game, i say- "They don't have to."

When i play a game i expect to like it, feel immersed, and be swept along into the story IMMMEDIATELY.

Since when are games about working to get to the fun parts? They aren't.

It should be fun and engaging from the start, the very start, and this game isn't. If by level 10 on my first character i dont feel like i'm having fun, it's game over. If a game can't draw me in, make me WANT to play it from the start, why should I WORK towards the fun parts? That makes zero sense.

The only thing i love about this game as is is the graphics, and that's only to a degree. Ran around that maze that is gridania? it blows. Running around Uldah's landscape? Bland as all get out. Haven't done the other starting area.

Sure, the graphics are there, but the artwork isn't. making it feel like a world has been a failed task.

Combat? nuh-uh. nothing engaging there either. even if it isn't an action packed game, it should FEEL like one. waiting 4 sec's for a single swing of an axe? not fun. "learn how to play" you say. well i know how. it still isn't fun.

that's just a couple flaws i see in this game. has it gotten better? SURE. That isn't hard to do when you start with a steaming pile of crap. There currently all over the redoing of the battle system and implementations of jobs, but i think they need to focus as well on the WORLD, making it feel like one that is alive. I know they are working on redesigns. I know there working on everything else. but until they IMPLEMENT it successfully, this game doesn't deserve carebear reviews. My two cents.

 

The Deep Web is sca-ry.

  Inktomi

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9/27/11 10:23:09 AM#32

Whoa! Cursing...Namecalling and F-Bomb dropping? Really. Really?!?!? Is it that serious?

Ok, FFXIV did not work out for some, some people love it. Its a matter of taste. I think what this game needs is the definitive FFXIV community to get together and start creating some positive content about the game here. Thats a solution. 

How about some how-to's or player written reviews? That Ifrit video is pretty hot (pun intended) I have to say. Why doesn't someone step up and give their version of the FFXIV experience instead of sitting in a thread and pointing fingers.

Obviously, many of us, including myself are pretty disenchanted with the way this article was written. Then go...start a blog about FFXIV and start writing. Cap some videos, create some links, embed a video and some screenshots and combat the mediocrity with positivity.

Jus' saying,

  Japhthah

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9/27/11 10:23:27 AM#33

 


Although this is my first post, I have been reading mmorpg.com for over two years. In the past five days I have been searching for an mmorpg that will hold my attention as a casual gamer. In those five days I have resubscribed to Rift and quit and then resubscribed to WoW and quit. I want to know if FFXIV is worth the purchase. Can someone with actual game experience give it a decent review with PROS and CONS. I am looking for a neutral review, I know the chances are slim that it will be a true neutral :P but I am sure there is a gamer out there, who plays the game presently as well, at launch, who can provide a review that doesn't come off as a blood feud retaliation.


  IvI_Nunez

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9/27/11 10:26:57 AM#34

Yes, the review was a negative one but I'm not so sure it was just because he was "trolling" as people say. I think he was simply trying to state that the games still 'feels' very unfinished and unpolished. Games such as WoW or Rift may not look as amazing in terms of textures and whatnot, but they 'feel' much better. I don't know about anyone else, but the way a game feels is much more important to me then it's looks. If the responses are smooth, the UI intuitive or atleast a working and polished design and the world actually feels alive and worth playing in...then I'm all ears, but if it just looks amazing but is sluggish and nearly empty then I do not feel my time is worth spent there. There are waaaay to many games and mmo's out in general for me to waste my time on somthing that is "decent". If I am going to spend countless hours on a game then I want it to be worth it to me, and I feel that this game just does not have that. I am not saying it is a horrible game or that it is a great game, but instead that there are better more polished games out there so why waste my time with this one? Though everything really does come down to perspective; therefore, some people may very much enjoy this game. That is completely fine and I am glad to hear some people are having fun with it. Though I do think it is pointless to argue whether the game is good or not because no matter how many pros and cons we state or how many mean things we say to one another...in the end it's the users opinion. If you love the game, play it. If you hate the game, don't. Leave the others alone and take the review as the review is. This was one person's perspective written as a post release review of the game and should be taken as such. Whether you disagree or not with his post does not matter. What matters is if YOU enjoy the game or not.


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  Kuppa

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9/27/11 10:26:59 AM#35

It;s sad really.... 


  Toxia

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9/27/11 10:28:14 AM#36
Originally posted by Japhthah

 


Although this is my first post, I have been reading mmorpg.com for over two years. In the past five days I have been searching for an mmorpg that will hold my attention as a casual gamer. In those five days I have resubscribed to Rift and quit and then resubscribed to WoW and quit. I want to know if FFXIV is worth the purchase. Can someone with actual game experience give it a decent review with PROS and CONS. I am looking for a neutral review, I know the chances are slim that it will be a true neutral :P but I am sure there is a gamer out there, who plays the game presently as well, at launch, who can provide a review that doesn't come off as a blood feud retaliation.

This isn't the place to ask for one. Make a new thread. Or, DO use this review, and read through all the comments being posted. If you can't make a desicision by those, then go into the ffxiv forum and look around in there, and see how the general consensus already is. Still haven't had your question answered? Make a thread then, and ask away.

To the part in red. it's a sensitive topic because we like FF games, some even love them, like me, but my opinion is there isn't much about this game to like, much less love.

I still check in on updates when they come out, but i'm not actibely playing this game anymore. have played it quite awhile. it just isn't ready. (ready=enjoyable)

The Deep Web is sca-ry.

  dsp1

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Joined: 7/19/11
Posts: 40

9/27/11 10:31:40 AM#37

Originally posted by TheFirst109

P.S. Thanks for the ifrit battle video, I'd never seen that before and that's insane o.O





 


yeah, the ifrit battle video is pretty nice. the reason you never seen it before though is that is was just posted today for the first time. it is not in game, yet, so there was no way it could have been in the review. it was a teaser video released today for people to see what is on the way.


  udon

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/23/07
Posts: 1605

9/27/11 10:36:56 AM#38

Originally posted by Murugan

If you don't like the game which you and your editor clearly don't how about getting someone who does like it to write your articles, they will be more enjoyable to read and actually informative for a change.



 


 


MMORPG took almost a year to finally release a review on this game because it "needed time to mature" and you think they hate on the game?  Personally I feel MMORPG on the whole is biased towards the game as I have never seen them extend the same to another game on this site when it released unfinished.  The fact that despite going out of their way to try a put this game in the best light possible it still gets such bad reviews is a glowing testimate to just how bad the game really was and still is.  I have not played since launch and really have not read anything to make me tempted to dig out the disks and try it again.


  Toxia

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/25/09
Posts: 1293

9/27/11 10:38:42 AM#39
Originally posted by udon

Originally posted by Murugan

If you don't like the game which you and your editor clearly don't how about getting someone who does like it to write your articles, they will be more enjoyable to read and actually informative for a change.



 

 


MMORPG took almost a year to finally release a review on this game because it "needed time to mature" and you think they hate on the game?  Personally I feel MMORPG on the whole is biased towards the game as I have never seen them extend the same to another game on this site when it released unfinished.  The fact that despite going out of their way to try a put this game in the best light possible it still gets such bad reviews is a glowing testimate to just how bad the game really was and still is.  I have not played since launch and really have not read anything to make me tempted to dig out the disks and try it again.

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  Delsus1

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/18/11
Posts: 61

9/27/11 10:38:49 AM#40
Originally posted by Toxia

To start my post off i'll just go ahead and say "I AM, without a doubt, a FF fanboi. Always have been, always will be."

That being said.

This game sucks pretty hard.

To those complaining that the author didnt put enough time in to enjoy the game, i say- "They don't have to."

When i play a game i expect to like it, feel immersed, and be swept along into the story IMMMEDIATELY.

Since when are games about working to get to the fun parts? They aren't.

It should be fun and engaging from the start, the very start, and this game isn't. If by level 10 on my first character i dont feel like i'm having fun, it's game over. If a game can't draw me in, make me WANT to play it from the start, why should I WORK towards the fun parts? That makes zero sense.

The only thing i love about this game as is is the graphics, and that's only to a degree. Ran around that maze that is gridania? it blows. Running around Uldah's landscape? Bland as all get out. Haven't done the other starting area.

Sure, the graphics are there, but the artwork isn't. making it feel like a world has been a failed task.

Combat? nuh-uh. nothing engaging there either. even if it isn't an action packed game, it should FEEL like one. waiting 4 sec's for a single swing of an axe? not fun. "learn how to play" you say. well i know how. it still isn't fun.

that's just a couple flaws i see in this game. has it gotten better? SURE. That isn't hard to do when you start with a steaming pile of crap. There currently all over the redoing of the battle system and implementations of jobs, but i think they need to focus as well on the WORLD, making it feel like one that is alive. I know they are working on redesigns. I know there working on everything else. but until they IMPLEMENT it successfully, this game doesn't deserve carebear reviews. My two cents.

 

You obviously dont follow the official news but a world overhaul has been confirmed by SE, sorry but I cant be bothered to look for the link but I'm sure you can find it if you want to, serously if you wait 4 secs for an attack you are doing it wrong, on my lancer, between my invigorate 2, speed surge 2, full thrust, ferocity 2, raging strike, twisting vice, skewer 2, leg sweep, I am always doing somthing, there is only 1 of those you cant use on MRD so yes you are doing it wrong.

I dont mind a review between patches but for the love of god if its ever going to be useful then actually mention the changes that came in the patch, the reviewer getting to 25 to atleast see Toto-Rak would have taken no time.

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