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  SteeJanz

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9/26/11 9:11:14 PM#21
Originally posted by stayontarget

Alot of times its not the mods but overly sensitive fan base that abuse the report button.

Or start a discussion at another site.  I am not trying to beat the guy up but he should not  be so easily offended.   If he thought about it he would see the great advice he is getting from numerous posters to this thread.  It might sting a little but still worth it. 

  Unlight

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9/26/11 9:14:19 PM#22
Originally posted by MMO.Maverick

GW2Guru mods - some of them - are very subjective and biased in their moderation compared to some other forums, but in the end it's their forum, they can determine the rules for their own forums however they like.

This totally.

They pretty much have the right to do whatever they want on their site and some of them exercise that right to its fullest.  If you don't like dealing with GW2guru's junior gestapo, do what many of us have elected to do and stop participating.  There are other communities you can be part of, with plenty more to come.  But calling them out on it on their own site isn't going to remedy anything.  Of course, doing it privately won't help either, so you're just left with deciding to stay or go.

  fony

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9/26/11 9:21:06 PM#23

they're certianly a shitty bunch.

 

  someforumguy

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9/26/11 9:33:17 PM#24
Originally posted by jvxmtg
Originally posted by ebonized

How was my post a flame or a troll? It was neither - it was an attempt at improving the atmosphere of the forums, where many of us find is congestive. What is so wrong with that?

 

I can agree about taking it to private message or email, which I have already done

Most people don't know when they are flaming or trolling, that's why there's the moderator. Also because of this, you are not a moderator nor qualified to be one.

 

Your failure to identify your mistake is a BIG sign. ;)

Flaming or trolling implies a certain intention (insulting someone on purpose, being disruptive). If someone genuinely didnt realise that he/she was doing something wrong, it doesnt have to be flaming or trolling. The only mistake is not knowing a forumrule in this case. Some of these rules are quite arbitrary. I do agree that it is their website to do with whatever they like.

But I also can understand the OP's frustration. If the moderators are as bad as he claims, then it also means that it wont help sending a private message about this to one of the mods(the only allowed option). The problem here is that mods moderate mods.

At the same time he wants to stay on that website because he likes the community (which the mods are no part of in the strict sense). This leaves not many options and I think that his choice wasnt that bad. If any critical voice gets surpressed, you sometimes just have to shout harder and more often. Of course you can also go away, but that also means leaving that community.

  fony

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9/26/11 9:37:28 PM#25

the mods there are very nasty in PM's. they strike me as limpdick misfits who are pretty much worms IRL and put on that tough guy persona when they "log on".

 

  MMO.Maverick

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9/26/11 10:05:13 PM#26

I can somewhat understand the frustration of the OP and the feeling that it's a loss if the GW2Guru mods and site admins don't have that same vibe as the ANet people themselves, and it could be considered as a shame and waste if censorship at the GW2Guru forums approaches the dictatorial and heavy prejudice sometimes. But if there are no signs that it'll change and someone finds posting in such a - to him or her - bit of repressive atmosphere uncomfortable, then it's time to choose the wiser option and move on to sites and forums where freedom of speech is more acceptable or objective and balanced.

 

Besides, iirc wasn't it the case that ANet would open official forums themselves in due time? Or was that an unfounded, unofficial rumor that I read a while back?

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  User Deleted
9/26/11 10:09:24 PM#27

I can't blame the OP for posting this on this site.  This isn't the first time I've heard these kinds of concerns, and it's obvious that not enough is being done to resolve them.  At least the GW2GURU people can't delete this thread so quickly or easily.

For those of you who accuse the OP of flaming: how would anything we care about improve if we don't draw attention to weaknesses or flaws?  Flaming is the act of complaining with no redemptive value, which is not the case with the OP.

  doragon86

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9/26/11 10:11:00 PM#28

Meh. You're simply posting on a board that is run by straight up fanboys. What sort of response do you expect when you criticize their beloved game? If you feel stifled, simply stop posting there and move on. Posting your complaints here won't do much.

Originally posted by MMO.Maverick

Besides, iirc wasn't it the case that ANet would open official forums themselves in due time? Or was that an unfounded, unofficial rumor that I read a while back?

I certainly hope they do have their own official boards at launch.

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  Br3akingDawn

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9/26/11 10:24:29 PM#29
Originally posted by doragon86

Meh. You're simply posting on a board that is run by straight up fanboys. What sort of response do you expect when you criticize their beloved game? If you feel stifled, simply stop posting there and move on. Posting your complaints here won't do much.

Originally posted by MMO.Maverick

Besides, iirc wasn't it the case that ANet would open official forums themselves in due time? Or was that an unfounded, unofficial rumor that I read a while back?

I certainly hope they do have their own official boards at launch.

I certainly hope so too, dont see why they wouldnt.  Certainly would make the GW2 community even greater!

  Kost

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9/26/11 10:26:03 PM#30
Originally posted by grunty

Some people need to learn the NIMBY rule the hard way. Stop bitching about the free beer when you're in someone else's backyard.

 

  Ciccero

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9/26/11 10:35:03 PM#31

You cannot post a concern or something you have issue with, on these forusm either due to the feed it scatters in all directions,pulling those trolls out.

People are going to bash you over and over.

My POV is simple

If I spend all day cooking, I do not want to hear if you think something needs more salt or more peper. Eat it ,shut up and tell me thanks,period. That is how the Mods/Devs take it.

Likes and dislike threads are trash,period. You have been handed your plate,eat it and say thank you is the approach.

Imagine how many turds have made WOW references since the boards went up ? lol

Now imagine osmeone complaining about some aspect they do not like.

Now, get that " I HAVE A RIGHT TO AN OPPINION" mind-set and then reflect on how many twits have given oppinions since day 1.

That BS about devs carring what the players think is that,BS. They make a game they think will be a hit,they make changes they feel are better and they spend the day on end hours for years making it something to play so people can come rant...

 

No,shut up and eat your food,jsut say thanks.

When you are a paying customer,then complain

  fony

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9/26/11 10:39:14 PM#32
Originally posted by doragon86

Meh. You're simply posting on a board that is run by straight up fanboys. What sort of response do you expect when you criticize their beloved game? If you feel stifled, simply stop posting there and move on. Posting your complaints here won't do much.

Originally posted by MMO.Maverick

Besides, iirc wasn't it the case that ANet would open official forums themselves in due time? Or was that an unfounded, unofficial rumor that I read a while back?

I certainly hope they do have their own official boards at launch.

lol, actually at least half of the mods aren't very enthusiastic about the game. one thing i'll say, they're surprisingly objective(moreso than some posters). they may get into petty shit about opinions and such, but there's almost no moderation stemming from criticizing the game itslef. hell, they let dinhosaur(robert dinh on this site) run free for ages. Fernling360 is still active, and he's simply a flat out troll. literally all trolling of every single piece of info that has come out since he started posting there.

 

it makes it all the more baffling that they fucking impose there will so damn much, but don't clean up the biggest riff raff.

  freston

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9/27/11 1:38:45 AM#33
Originally posted by ebonized

How was my post a flame or a troll? It was neither - it was an attempt at improving the atmosphere of the forums, where many of us find is congestive. What is so wrong with that?

 

I can agree about taking it to private message or email, which I have already done

You are absolutely right. No part of your post could be considered trolling (no irony here, just the plain truth)

  minttunator

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9/29/11 4:02:02 AM#34

I don't really have a problem with most of the mods on Guru - sure, they're a bit harsh with closing threads sometimes, but I guess I'd rather have that than the trollfest that goes on in most other forums. The few times that my posts have been moderated over there have been warranted, more or less. 

I do take issue, though, with the attitude of one particular mod who insists on being a pr*ck about moderating. This dude often makes snide comments after closing a thread and calls the posters names, which is completely unprofessional and uncalled for, in my opinion. If that guy lost his privileges or at least toned down the attitude and d*ckish behaviour somewhat, I'd have pretty much no problem with Guru moderation whatsoever. :)

  wojtekpl

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9/29/11 6:02:27 AM#35

ebonized, it's clear from your posts that you  have no idea how forums work from

 

Just because you say something you do isn't trolling it doesn't mean you're right. Read the rules ten times and don't blindly press "Agree" button next time.

  DarkPony

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9/29/11 6:11:38 AM#36

Can't fathom why a politely written letter with a genuine concern like that would be closed or removed. I guess the blanket rule of "no discussing moderation" most forums have was abused for that.

Anyway. I wouldn't want to invest my time on a subjective board like that. Most official forums of mmorpgs are more open to critical but constructive feedback compared to that bloated fansite.

Better to stay at mmorpg.com where constructive crtisism and varying opinions are allowed.

 

 

  wojtekpl

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9/29/11 6:30:56 AM#37
Originally posted by DarkPony

Can't fathom why a politely written letter with a genuine concern like that would be closed or removed. I guess the blanket rule of "no discussing moderation" most forums have was abused for that.

Anyway. I wouldn't want to invest my time on a subjective board like that. Most official forums of mmorpgs are more open to critical but constructive feedback compared to that bloated fansite.

Better to stay at mmorpg.com where constructive crtisism and varying opinions are allowed.

 

 

Thing is, almost every single forum has a rule that if you wish to discuss moderation in any form you have to take it in private. This kind of thing isn't a reality show so no wonder they didn't like it.

  marz.at.play

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9/29/11 8:18:38 AM#38

Discussing moderation on any fansite or forum can be taken out of context against the mods of that particular fansite or forum. Keep in mind that communication may be interpreted in different ways when it's being typed out and read by someone. It's never like a face to face conversation because you can not hear the tone of voice, nor the facial expression when you are reading text. In the end it may also be taken as an attack against the job they think they are doing well.

Food for thought.

  Falcomith

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9/29/11 8:35:22 AM#39
Originally posted by ebonized

"Hi there. I've been a part of this site for about a year now

OP, you have been here about a year? Check your join date next to your name (3/31/11). Try about 6 months. Sorry, but now you just lost credibility.  I cant prove it, but I could have sworn I saw this same posting on this site months back. 

ebonized

 

 

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  Shoju

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9/29/11 10:04:27 AM#40
Originally posted by Falcomith
Originally posted by ebonized

"Hi there. I've been a part of this site for about a year now

OP, you have been here about a year? Check your join date next to your name (3/31/11). Try about 6 months. Sorry, but now you just lost credibility.  I cant prove it, but I could have sworn I saw this same posting on this site months back. 

ebonized

 

 

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He was referring to Guild Wars 2 Guru.  The OP is a copy of a post he made there.

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