MMORPG.com's Joe Sanicky is excited. He's excited about the opportunity to finally take down Deathwing in World of Warcraft. With the arrival of the v4.3 patch, players will be able to put one of the most iconic bad boys in WoW away for good. Check out Joe's thoughts about the 4.3 update. Let us know what you're thinking in the comments.

So at long last Deathwing will run rampant across Azeroth… well he already has been… well we get to fight him! And by “we” I mean those raiding guilds get to fight him. There are also three new dungeons titled End of Time, Well of Eternity, and Hour of Twilight. In these three dungeons players will partake in copious amounts of time travel, history altering fights, and titanic amounts of lore! Pictures from the blizzard previews are getting me extremely excited to experience these dungeons, especially considering Blizzard is doing something somewhat new by having us fight two of four memorable characters from the mythos in their corrupted, time-warped forms. Plus seeing Deathwing dead before we ourselves have done the deed is an intriguing sight to say the least.

Read more of Joe Sanicky's The WoW Factor: Deathwing Goes Down.

you know when you go to a dance, and suddenly realize every1 has the same dress?, see where I'm going with this one? no?....

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*peers into crystal ball* Deathwing goes down within a day of the patch...notwithstanding server down time/crashes/hotfixes on patch day.

Apart from you can not put him down for good as this is a multi shard instance fest so he will keep coming back up again !

Seriously people still play WOW?

Originally posted by Cacophanist

Apart from you can not put him down for good as this is a multi shard instance fest so he will keep coming back up again !

Seriously people still play WOW?

imo, once you strip out item farming and social drama, it's actually a better game.

 If i could wear my brewfest hat while raiding i would have enjoyed Icecrown.

"Look at the dwarf with his keg and Tyrolean! HES PUNCHING ARTHAS!" Adorable.

Isn't it funny how this article is supposed to be a positive one with the "MMORPG.com's Joe Sanicky is excited. He's excited about the opportunity to finally take down Deathwing in World of Warcraft. [even though the writer then goes on to explain how he'll likely never be able to get there]. And then I read:

"And by “we” I mean those raiding guilds get to fight him." [So what are you excited about?]

"Personally I’m rather miffed about the gold costs." [Followed by...]

"Not to mention Telarans get a wardrobe for basically free…" [Rift sucks, but at least it has ease-of-use here]

"Seeing more gold sinks added along with a rather convoluted wardrobe system makes me want to slap a developer." [Or why do people continue to support shitty development?]

In the end there is very little to look forward to, and WoW is gonna be going way down in population come the new year. It won't come close to dying, but maybe it'll give Blizzard a reminder that fun beats grind and they'll change some systems.

Thanks for a fun lighthearted read. 

Not entirely sure what point the poster above me was trying to make though. Perhaps he just doesnt understand sarcasm.

As he's a WoW player, statistically, he is probably too young to get it...

Originally posted by SBFord

players will be able to put one of the most iconic bad boys in WoW away for good...Let us know what you're thinking in the comments.

I think Blizzard's going to have a tough time selling the Biggest Baddest Badguy Ever (No, Rly) Version 5.0.

The parade of lore rewrites and deus ex machinas continues.  See ya next expansion!

Yet another huge lore event I'll miss out on because raiding is required to do it!  {never have seen BWL, AQ, Dark Temple, Frozen Throne, and now the Deathwing encounter...I did from eventually watch them on YouTube, but thats no way to enjoy the game like everyone else getting to actually experience it!} 

Seriously though, I honestly don't see why it'd be so hard for them to implement a 5-man or even solo/duo version {like Trion is about to do in Rift} for players that just don't like to raid.  And I know I've bitched and whined and complained in the past about not getting the good gear that raiders do, but in reality I don't care about that, I want to see the story and be able to participate in these epic lore changing events!

Anyway...

It is just sad to see yet another populat villian get turned into a raid. They did the same thing with Arthas. Sad really.

Lets hope for the WoW player this "omg EXCITING NEW BOSSFIGHT ENGINE  (which is probably the usual mashup of some age old mechanics given a new name like "phasing") DeathWing fight" as they try to sell it, will not even come close to the joke and letdown that was the "omg DYNAMIC DeathWing attack WORLD EVENT!!" which is basically just a randomly spawning monster with a big model following a path, executing a generic script that alo makes your screen shake and is not even remotely dynamic.

Originally posted by Cacophanist

Apart from you can not put him down for good as this is a multi shard instance fest so he will keep coming back up again !

Seriously people still play WOW?

Yup, millions and millions, more than any MMO ever to have existed.

Originally posted by Painlezz

Originally posted by Cacophanist

Apart from you can not put him down for good as this is a multi shard instance fest so he will keep coming back up again !

Seriously people still play WOW?

Yup, millions and millions, more than any MMO ever to have existed.

More people play farmville, but that doesn't mean it's a better game.

Originally posted by Painlezz

Originally posted by Cacophanist

Apart from you can not put him down for good as this is a multi shard instance fest so he will keep coming back up again !

Seriously people still play WOW?

Yup, millions and millions, more than any MMO ever to have existed.

Only from western developers, as there have been and still are MMOs from the East that make WoW's numbers look small!

Originally posted by Khrymson

Yet another huge lore event I'll miss out on because raiding is required to do it!  {never have seen BWL, Dark Temple, Frozen Throne, and now the Deathwing encounter...I did from eventually watch them on YouTube, but thats no way to enjoy the game like everyone else getting to actually experience it!} 

 

Seriously though, I honestly don't see why it'd be so hard for them to implement a 5-man or even solo/duo version {like Trion is about to do in Rift} for players that just don't like to raid.  And I know I've bitched and whined and complained in the past about not getting the good gear that raiders do, but in reality I don't care about that, I want to see the story and be able to participate in these epic lore changing events!

 

Anyway...

I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you.

As a point of note, I am usually a soloer and don't usually get to raid.

However, making such an epic encounter available for 5 people sort of takes the wind out of it. I do believe that the encounter could have difficulty levels (with different types of rewards) for those who are not hard core raiders. However, as there are people who hate to raid there are also people who hate to solo.

You have the choice to raid if you want to experience something like this. I can't imagine there aren't people in the same boat as you would love to meet once per week to try this out. They might be more forgiving of mistakes (unlike raid guilds) and in the end you would learn the encounter and succeed.

But to completely change an encounter just because someone doesn't like it doesn't feel right to me. you have the choice to take part in the available content and you have the choice to decline.

Originally posted by Painlezz

Originally posted by Cacophanist

Apart from you can not put him down for good as this is a multi shard instance fest so he will keep coming back up again !

Seriously people still play WOW?

Yup, millions and millions, more than any MMO ever to have existed.

Confirming what I've always suspected about the general populace.

You really would think, by now, that Blizzard would have figured out how to include the non-raiding subscribers who are paying the same as the raiders.  5-man versions of these encounters, perhaps?  I guess raid PuGs are like tossing a crumb....they're possible but apt to be horrible and not good experiences, but if that's all they're willing to give, I guess you should just be happy that Blizzard tosses that crumb under the table for you.  /sigh of disgust

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Khrymson

Yet another huge lore event I'll miss out on because raiding is required to do it!  {never have seen BWL, Dark Temple, Frozen Throne, and now the Deathwing encounter...I did from eventually watch them on YouTube, but thats no way to enjoy the game like everyone else getting to actually experience it!} 

 

Seriously though, I honestly don't see why it'd be so hard for them to implement a 5-man or even solo/duo version {like Trion is about to do in Rift} for players that just don't like to raid.  And I know I've bitched and whined and complained in the past about not getting the good gear that raiders do, but in reality I don't care about that, I want to see the story and be able to participate in these epic lore changing events!

 

Anyway...

I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you.

As a point of note, I am usually a soloer and don't usually get to raid.

However, making such an epic encounter available for 5 people sort of takes the wind out of it. I do believe that the encounter could have difficulty levels (with different types of rewards) for those who are not hard core raiders. However, as there are people who hate to raid there are also people who hate to solo.

You have the choice to raid if you want to experience something like this. I can't imagine there aren't people in the same boat as you would love to meet once per week to try this out. They might be more forgiving of mistakes (unlike raid guilds) and in the end you would learn the encounter and succeed.

But to completely change an encounter just because someone doesn't like it doesn't feel right to me. you have the choice to take part in the available content and you have the choice to decline.

 

in 4.3 blizzard are adding the LFG raid finder and adding a 3rd raid difficulty that is below normal so those not in a raid guild can jump into a pug raid and fight deathwing.  The gear level is a little lower than normal to to make it fair.  But lets be honest to enjoy WoW to it's fullest you need to raid, the trick is to find a raid guild that suits your life.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by Khrymson

Yet another huge lore event I'll miss out on because raiding is required to do it!  {never have seen BWL, Dark Temple, Frozen Throne, and now the Deathwing encounter...I did from eventually watch them on YouTube, but thats no way to enjoy the game like everyone else getting to actually experience it!} 

 

Seriously though, I honestly don't see why it'd be so hard for them to implement a 5-man or even solo/duo version {like Trion is about to do in Rift} for players that just don't like to raid.  And I know I've bitched and whined and complained in the past about not getting the good gear that raiders do, but in reality I don't care about that, I want to see the story and be able to participate in these epic lore changing events!

 

Anyway...

I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you.

As a point of note, I am usually a soloer and don't usually get to raid.

However, making such an epic encounter available for 5 people sort of takes the wind out of it. I do believe that the encounter could have difficulty levels (with different types of rewards) for those who are not hard core raiders. However, as there are people who hate to raid there are also people who hate to solo.

You have the choice to raid if you want to experience something like this. I can't imagine there aren't people in the same boat as you would love to meet once per week to try this out. They might be more forgiving of mistakes (unlike raid guilds) and in the end you would learn the encounter and succeed.

But to completely change an encounter just because someone doesn't like it doesn't feel right to me. you have the choice to take part in the available content and you have the choice to decline.

Thats why I said there should be options, and why would it take the wind out of it?  Its all about preference, where someone like me is more than fine with it being a solo/duo encounter or even 5-man and will still enjoy it.  Then there are the players that prefer to raid in large groups of 10-25 or more where it takes mass coordination and working together.

The hard core raiders still have their raid version for the challenge they desire, but then there is an easier mode for solo/duo players.  And then lets say that hard core raider had his guild cancel their run that week, they still have an epic encounter to participate in instead of having to wait another week.  Its a win-win all around and doesn't effect anyones choice of playstyle.

As it stands though, it just seems ridiculous that most MMOs in the past decade are designed entirely around the solo/duo player, but as soon as you reach the level cap, all that it tossed away and you're forced to raid if you want to progress further.  {I don't mind 5-man, but thats about as large as I enjoy, save for FFXI which was 6-man...heh}