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Star Wars: The Old Republic

Star Wars: The Old Republic 

General Discussion  » SW:TOR "Might Slip to 2012"

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9/22/11 9:16:40 PM#41

Whats a couple of months or so . If the product is as good as we all hope it is as many people will play it in February as they will in December .If its not it will just be another game we'll consign to the dustbin of history and Warcraft will get a reprise for another year or two untill the next big challenger comes along .If it is as good was we all hope it is then Blizzards dominance of the mmo market will be finnished pretty much overnight and we can expect massive trolling of the game as the fanbois realise that Azeroth faces a far greater cataclysm than Deathwing could inflict on it .


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9/22/11 9:27:44 PM#42

I have to honestly say if they're taking pre orders they shouldn't sound so wishy washy about having a release date.  I'm seriously rethinking my pre order since it sounds like they've got my money and they're not sure when they can give me a product and that sounds a little shady.  I love star wars and I love bioware's games but I'm getting a little tired of hearing "maybe next time... maybe next time".  My excitement for this game is ebbing and I may consider spending my money elsewhere.


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9/22/11 9:33:53 PM#43


they take our money EARLY then do this?? That's pretty shady indeed.

Loved UO, EQ, EQ2, Daoc, CoH, Vanguard, Lotro, SWTOR, WOW... looking forward to Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen!


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9/22/11 9:50:35 PM#44

Like it or not as much as they want to release a "finished" product investors pull the strings.  If they want to bump the date to 2012 they will not be happy.  I guarantee they have a lot of pressure right now to get the game out this holiday as planned since they have already bumped the date from this spring 6-8 months later. I will be shocked if it doesnt come this year.


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9/22/11 9:57:52 PM#45
Originally posted by DarkPony

Reid seems perfectly clear on this:

"There is absolutely no change to our previous messaging with this statement. We are in active and extensive testing for The Old Republic. We're aiming to release the game in the holiday 2011 window (or, before the end of the year, to speak in non-American for a minute)," Reid added. "However, as with any large and complex game project, there's always the possibility of slippage. Always. That is why we have always said we're aiming for that window, because it's possible that unforeseen issues may push the date. Eric Brown is doing what he's paid to do - letting investors know that the possibility exists. A possibility doesn't mean a certainty."


Ummm, dude, Christmas is not an American holiday. Its a Christian Holiday which has hundreds of millions of followers around the world. That's epic...


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9/22/11 10:05:14 PM#46
Originally posted by wickymagee

I have to honestly say if they're taking pre orders they shouldn't sound so wishy washy about having a release date.  I'm seriously rethinking my pre order since it sounds like they've got my money and they're not sure when they can give me a product and that sounds a little shady.  I love star wars and I love bioware's games but I'm getting a little tired of hearing "maybe next time... maybe next time".  My excitement for this game is ebbing and I may consider spending my money elsewhere.

I'm having the same thoughts. I was originally planning on enjoying this game until GW2 comes out. If they keep pushing it back after people have already paid for the game, I just don't see the point. With so many good games coming out I just no longer see the need to preorder, if they they are going to keep the release date indefinite. If they force me to choose between TOR and GW2 I'm going to have to pick GW2. I was hoping they wouldn't do that.


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9/22/11 10:14:22 PM#47
Originally posted by Tokken


they take our money EARLY then do this?? That's pretty shady indeed.

You *are* getting your game though. It's not like it's vapourware. 

So I don't see why or how it is "shady". 

"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

I need to take this advice more.


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9/22/11 10:19:37 PM#48
Originally posted by Xzen
Originally posted by Excalaber2

What do you guys think of this?



pretty sure there was something about that posted yesterday and Bioware telling EA to shut their whore mouth for spreading lies.


Actually thus far it has actually been EA telling Bioware what they can and cannot say.


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9/23/11 2:59:06 AM#49

If they have the money for it, postpone.

I don't think it's fair to have this postponement partly financed by pre-orders but that's a personal opinion (I never pre-order personally simply because sometimes something that I looked forward to mysteriously didn't make it into the launch of the game - for instance AoC that promised DX10 at launch originally and then didn't bring it into the game until a year AFTER launch IIRC).

A smooth launch is priceless, fail at launch and you can forget all dreams of taking on WoW or any other game for that matter. You just become one more that launched badly, impossible to recover from.



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9/23/11 3:16:58 AM#50
Originally posted by nitefly

I don't think it's fair to have this postponement partly financed by pre-orders but that's a personal opinion

I don't know if this is the case for everyone for every outlet where people preordered, but reports from various people in this thread seem to suggest that the usual has happened, and that's that when you preordered, no money is written off your credit card yet.

If it bothers people that much that they don't know a release date yet, they shouldn't have preordered in the first place, or they can cancel their preorder with little to no cost.

The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's

The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."


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9/23/11 3:18:21 AM#51
Originally posted by stamps79

If they need to push it to early next year, let them do it I say.  I want a sold launch, I want them to be pleased with the beta testing and let them roll out as many closed beta's as they need,  until they feel confident with the results.

MMO's can't be rushed, there are so many could be great MMO's that didn't do well at launch and have struggled to fine there ground.  Bioware do what you need to do and I wish you the best at launch. Bioware is doing something completely different from there normal comfort zone.

If 2012 has to happen, let it happen.  I can wait.

LOL no need for me to post...Ditto


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9/23/11 3:19:23 AM#52

Those people who preordered you all paid for the full item or a small amount. How much was it ? If it was full then this sounds bad.


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This is just my opinion and should be viewed as just that, an opinion

9/23/11 3:26:04 AM#53

Paid $5 ..  It'll be ready when it's ready :)


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9/23/11 3:27:32 AM#54
. We're pushing out a major new build, we're getting in our external testers to look at it soon, Why are they releasing a new major content / build now? And getting external testers to take a look, something is wrong? Hopefully its not relates to the core mechanics, if not it'll be longer than spring

RIP Orc Choppa


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9/23/11 3:34:03 AM#55
Originally posted by arctarus
. We're pushing out a major new build, we're getting in our external testers to look at it soon, Why are they releasing a new major content / build now? And getting external testers to take a look, something is wrong? Hopefully its not relates to the core mechanics, if not it'll be longer than spring

This type of thing is pretty normal in game development.

I, for one, am not surprised by this.  With them releasing info about a major build coming out and no official notification of the next round of Beta testing, I just don't think there is time for them to release it before December.  I can't see the benifit of releasing it in December since that month is a cluster-frakk month to do anything major not to mention all but forcing your dev team to either be in the office or on call during the largest holiday season of the year.  If you can release by EoOctober or BoNovember then push it to Q1.


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9/23/11 3:43:34 AM#56
I just feel that by beta, everything shld already be in, and beta is busy ironing out all the bugs, server load, memory leak etc .... releasing a major new content so close to the suppose release date I dont think its awise choice

RIP Orc Choppa


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9/23/11 4:21:31 AM#57
Originally posted by raistlinm
Originally posted by Talonsin

I'd rather them push it back and have a great launch myself.



Agreed after having played a few horrible releases I firmly stand behind any devs decision to make sure the game is worth it before releasing, as far as whether it is right for them to offer pre orders with no release date those who have a problem with the practice have the simple recourse of not pre ordering before they have that date but I think it's obvious everyone knew there was no release date and many aren't bothered by this (myself included).  It's not like they can't simply announce a release date and still miss it.

Honestly I prefer a bad launch and suffering to play during 3 weeks than waiting for 6 months.


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9/23/11 4:24:19 AM#58

2012 means I might actually get to play Skyrim through at least once, so doesn't bother me in the least.


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9/23/11 4:29:22 AM#59

Originally posted by Vonatar
2012 means I might actually get to play Skyrim through at least once, so doesn't bother me in the least.

Skyrim, yeah. I have lost count of the hours I have spent in Bethesda's games and by the looks of things Skyrim looks incredible. The whole "dragons have a starting point and a response AI but from there we don't know where they'll go in each individual game" sounds so intriguing that I for one can't help but wish for a MMORPG developer to notice and think about how awesome such a feature would be in a persistent multiplayer environment.


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9/23/11 4:45:39 AM#60

All seems to be pointing at scalability problems during that first beta test weekend.

I really hope for them that they haven't ended up licencing the "wrong" game engine! And now starting to burn their fingers on it with that choice.


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