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  Hurvart

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9/19/11 2:46:32 AM#21

I think its obvious that they include a real money AH to earn more money. A lot of players will use it to buy and sell. People with a lot of money and with less patience will buy the items they want from the AH because they will think its to much trouble and to tedious to spend a lot of time trying to find those items. And they want to be as powerful as possible as fast as possible.

Of course you can still play the game with friends without ever using the RM-AH. Its up to the player.

But I think the RM-AH will be a huge sucess from a bussines point of view. And will make Blizzard/Activision much richer. Much more long term profit compared to the way D2 worked.

  Corehaven

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9/19/11 3:02:03 AM#22
Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by Zeppelin4

I'm confused by all these posts about Diablo 3.  I can play Diablo 3 the same way I played Diablo 2. I login to bnet, make a private server, invite friends and or family and enjoy. The real money AH does not effect me one bit. The only complaint I can see that is valid is the online play only. What I find strange about these complaints here is this site is about online gaming which requires a internet connection. :P

This is kind of how I see it.  I just wish the net connection wasn't in place, but it's a cheaply done anti-piracy measure really.

I absolutely agree.  And no I dont want to pirate the game.  I dont mess with that. 

 

But I guess Im just too used to Diablo 1 and 2 where I dont have to stay connected to the net to play.  There are a slew of games like that.  In fact, I think other than mmorpgs, most games do not require that at all. 

 

Im going to have to take a pass.  I dont want games doing this.  So Im not going to support a game that does.  Or pretty soon every game will be needing an internet connection to play. 

 

Furthermore, is this going to save money?  Earn them more?  In what sense?  People who pirate games....well....pirate games.  They wouldnt, and werent paying for it in the first place.  That doesnt mean if you make a game pirate proof they're going to go out and buy it instead.  They'll just pirate something else and likely play that.  Companies always talk of the millions they lost due to piracy.  When I believe the fact is, those that pirate do so because they dont want to pay for games.   So is there a real loss?  What Im saying is Im not sure these sorts of people would really buy it no matter what. 

 

As for people put out by the fact its online only and not an mmorpg?  Well thats me.  So Im not going to buy it.  I wont support that.  And because of that?  Well they've lost my money.  Most people wont care either way, and will make a purchase.  I would have bought the game if it was able to be played offline just like I paid for the last two.  But all I can say is they've lost my money, maybe a few other peoples, and no pirate is going to buy it anyways. 

 

Therefore I say its pointless.  I dont really care about the real money auction house.  Whatever.  But the online only?  No thanks.  Either make a full fledged mmorpg or dont.  But if you dont, there better be an offline mode. 

  SonofSeth

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9/19/11 5:49:19 PM#23
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by marinrider

I'm also strongly opposed to blizzards laziness in combating this industry.  They took the "If you cant beat em, join em" mentality and it really pisses me off.  I'm very likely to just go with TL2 and use that for my dungeon crawling needs.  Not only is it $40 cheaper, but it doesnt have a RMAH and its got people from the D1 and D2 teams working on it.  Oh and did I forget moddable?

Lazyness? They thought "how can we get these money instead of some gold farming company?".

That is not lazy, it is more greedy.

However I think this takes focus from the fact that this is more a Wow game than a real Diablo. I seen the old screens Blizzard North did before Blizz fired them, they actually looked just right. What we seen now is nothing near the 2 classic games. :(

 

I would argue Diablo is far more than just the visuals, and even if it was just about visuals, it's just a slight adjustment to the art style. If you zoom really close, or take a screen shot and zoom in to the point of seeing the jaggies than you might have a point, but ever so small. The way it's meant to be played, all the way zoomed out, it looks much more detailed than WoW, with far better lighting and it's own feel. I guess you can choose o view it's style as WoW in isometric view but it would have to be a completely deliberate choice, try watching some of the HD videos from the F&F beta, it might not change your opinion, but it might give you a better sense of how the game looks in motion.

 

 

Originally posted by BillMurphy
Originally posted by Zeppelin4

I'm confused by all these posts about Diablo 3.  I can play Diablo 3 the same way I played Diablo 2. I login to bnet, make a private server, invite friends and or family and enjoy. The real money AH does not effect me one bit. The only complaint I can see that is valid is the online play only. What I find strange about these complaints here is this site is about online gaming which requires a internet connection. :P

This is kind of how I see it.  I just wish the net connection wasn't in place, but it's a cheaply done anti-piracy measure really.

 

 

That's deliberately reductive view on the whole matter. I won't deny it serves as DRM at some capacity, just not in a sense we are accustomed to experience DRM. I believe it's use here is more in line with keeping the game rules consistent for each client due to the RMAH and all the troubles real money brings to the whole equation. If ever was a reason to keep any sort of cheating or exploits to a minimum it's a situation like this. There are diffirent methods to battle cheating but I don't really know a more efficient one than keeping a constant eye on the client and monitoring every exchange it makes with the server.

As for the "cheaply" comment, if that was the case, wouldn't they just do what ubisoft is trying to do and put some code on top of the game that doesen't let the game run unless software detects it's being connected. Blizzard is splitting parts of the game and running it on the server while keeping the assets on your PC, much like WoW is doing. Keeping those two integrated seamlessly without you noticing it is a much bigger task than just gating the exe file from initiating without a connection.

If nothing else, at least Blizzard is trying to add addtional functionality to the always online requirement, cloud storage, you can play your char on any PC with D3 installed, persistent friend list trough all of your Blizzard games and constant stat tracking to allow fast and precise bug fixes or mechanics adjustments.

 

Originally posted by Killerwoody

What I think is very dumb and makes it not worth playing! Is the real money trading for items.... Makes this game very unlikable, also its going to be just like SC2! Same game mechanics and pretty much same exact game just better graphics! Starcraft 2 was pure garbage just a knock off of the first Starcraft! Blizzard has lost there touch and there ability to make great games!

 

 

Starcraft 2 made some huge changes to the way basic game play functions, on the surface it is the same game, but they made many quality of life changes to how you control your army and economy. The way campaign works was also completely changed, from delivery of story to the way it lets you customize your army trough upgrade choices. These changes might seem insignificent to you, but for someone who was very invested and loved the first Starcraft, I can say the changes were far from being just a knock off.

Diablo 3 is even more different from a gameplay point of view, with more imersive story delivery, better fleshed out characters, all the little enviroment details that bring the world to life, to completely changing how you aquire skills to ensure your customization is based on experimentation and personal play style.

 

P.S. I would just like to add, I would still prefer it offers an offline mode for people who really do suffer from poor internet, but for the rest of us who are online as soon as our PC is on, I just find it erroneous to complain about it.

  tavoc

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9/21/11 12:29:21 PM#24

I cant tell you how disapointed i was when i heard about the RMAH. I have been raving about d3 for years now, even back when we had that anouncement that it was in devlopment and heard it was scraped and they were starting over. I said to all my friends ( You know what, its probably better they scraped it because it wasent working and when the finaly rebuilt it it will be amazing". Unfortunately again blizzard made me eat my own words.. because honestly that is one thing i just cant get by. As sad as it sound i will not play a pay to win game. Im a comptetive person, and player, i like playing the games i buy and gradualy get stronger and then i compete in pvp and so one so forth. I hate RMT and i have any cash shop that alowes people to get stronger by using real money.

And when it comes down to it, and you look past all the smoke thats all the Real money AH is.. Pay to win, thers no way im going to buy a game, plug in countless hours into learning about it and beating everything tog et good, just to turn around and be wtf rolled by somone who just bought the game 3 days before and spent 500 bucks getting all the best gear that i did not find. Its complete and utter bull!

Blizzard is not what it used to be... money got to its head and since the vanilla wow they have done nothing but screw up everything the put out because of the greed circulating threw themselves and the activision side.. They pump out crap left and right and they keep adding new features to everything just to make them more money... Not like they are the richest gameing company int he world right now or anything.

To conclude, Screw blizzard, They were at one time the best computer gameing company Imo in the past, but since they fired all the people that actualy had a brain instead of a stack of cash between their ears its been all downhill. The company has turned into a big steaming pile of crap, and the games they are coming out with are following suit. (cant tell you how pissed i was about SC2, and the fact it was nothing near the origional as far as lastivity and fun) Untill blizzard gets its crap togeather, they will never get another penny of mine. Alone with about 30 other friends i personaly have that are on the same page with me on this.

  Malevil

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9/21/11 12:36:06 PM#25
Originally posted by Tombill
2 points of observation.

This is ... Mmorpg.com and people complain HERE you need to be on line to play ... a multi player game with a real economy?

WTF, you ALL PLAY on line, you all post on line, you all talk 24\24 hours a day about on line games and then whine ?,, WTF

 

Secondly

For the first time in history, an RPG that actually will let you make money from loot and even convert gold to dollars and selling things to real players instead of buying fake armor from developpers in cash shops is ... bad ???

Shakes the head and closes the door. Folks at mmorpg.com will never see anything until it's too late.

No one will play poker with fake chips when they experienced the real game for money once.

And so no wonder why every launched mmorpg went down the drain in here. You simply don't see anything coming do you ?<> Not even the cross server Lfg tool in Wow was mentioned here when it was launched. They completely skimped over the feature in the news editorial. Hallo ? Anybody home ?

Go enjoy your money from D3 you great visionary ... lol

  tavoc

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9/21/11 7:37:08 PM#26
Originally posted by Tombill
2 points of observation.

This is ... Mmorpg.com and people complain HERE you need to be on line to play ... a multi player game with a real economy?

WTF, you ALL PLAY on line, you all post on line, you all talk 24\24 hours a day about on line games and then whine ?,, WTF

 

Secondly

For the first time in history, an RPG that actually will let you make money from loot and even convert gold to dollars and selling things to real players instead of buying fake armor from developpers in cash shops is ... bad ???

Shakes the head and closes the door. Folks at mmorpg.com will never see anything until it's too late.

No one will play poker with fake chips when they experienced the real game for money once.

And so no wonder why every launched mmorpg went down the drain in here. You simply don't see anything coming do you ?<> Not even the cross server Lfg tool in Wow was mentioned here when it was launched. They completely skimped over the feature in the news editorial. Hallo ? Anybody home ?

Observation 1: I can agree with you there, however the diablo series was never built around being a online multiplayer game.  They had the feature, and many people played online, but when it came down to it it was a action adventure dungeon crawler that eveyone loved. Infact many of those people who played online played single player first to get used tot he game before jumping into a game where people knew alot more than them, and quite oftenly.. get killed in their games by high level elitesest ditbags with hacked gear (godly plate of whales anyone?). Also even if you werent 'flagged' as hostile and they couldent kill you.. they would burn threw to find you and kill all your mobs while you were trying to quest or level or even farm gear while running meph runs or later on count/summoner/meph/ (the necro guy that droped the 3rd key) and baal. So you need to understand that many people enjoyed just playing the game in single player and not being botherd.

Obeservation 2: Then obviously you have never gotton into poker... expecialy hold-em. Ive played for money 100's of times and i still play with chips of no real valurel. Why? Practice.. Poker is all about bluffing and luck... If you dont practice well.. go ahead and go to vegas.. when you living under a card board box because you lost everything dont come crying about how you could never go back to playing without money.

Other than that thats no where near as close as what blizzard is doing here. and long term consiquences are there.. Think about it, how many already disturbed people will sit there, playing and playing because they think they can make a living off of d3.. no joke. Also its kinda a step backwords.. last few years alot of companies are fighting rmt, instead bliz.. the one company with the reasorces to actualy put up a real fight, embraced it and joined the other side just to turn quick profit. and to make it worse they made the game pay to win.. Which is a 2nd strike to many of the people here at mmorpg.com.. and alot of mmo players that still paly P2P games. Why? because no one woudl be happy about turning around and getting wtf rolled by some guy that put in minimal effort and paid cash for all their gear.. Its retarded.

/rant off

  SonofSeth

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9/22/11 1:50:44 AM#27
Originally posted by tavoc

Other than that thats no where near as close as what blizzard is doing here. and long term consiquences are there.. Think about it, how many already disturbed people will sit there, playing and playing because they think they can make a living off of d3.. no joke. Also its kinda a step backwords.. last few years alot of companies are fighting rmt, instead bliz.. the one company with the reasorces to actualy put up a real fight, embraced it and joined the other side just to turn quick profit. and to make it worse they made the game pay to win.. Which is a 2nd strike to many of the people here at mmorpg.com.. and alot of mmo players that still paly P2P games. Why? because no one woudl be happy about turning around and getting wtf rolled by some guy that put in minimal effort and paid cash for all their gear.. Its retarded.

/rant off

I see this a lot, but how exactly does one fight human nature? People would risk losing their characters and accounts for breaking EULA and they still did it, how much harsher can you get than banning an account?

Unless they turn it into an FPS and remove all currency and item progression.

I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying the only way to do it in this model is to change the game so much it's not the same thing anymore.

  stayBlind

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9/22/11 2:00:46 AM#28

Sure, I could grow tobacco and sell it, but do you really think I'd be able to compete with established companies such as Phillip Morris?

 

Same with D3 AH.

Little forum boys with their polished cyber toys: whine whine, boo-hoo, talk talk.

  stamps79

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9/22/11 2:06:39 AM#29
Originally posted by Rednecksith

Yes, you have to spend money to list something on the RMAH. Yes, you can keep the money you make, but you need to pay a fee to have it transferred off your Blizzard account. Also, there is a 'traditional' auction house which uses in-game gold.

Please take five minutes to read up on something before making a new post about it. All of this info has been posted and discussed to death.

That being said, f*ck Blizzard for giving in to the gold farming industry.

Blizzard has to keep the Gold Farmers happy, that's how they get there cut.  =(

Wildstar (2013) & Elder Scroll Online (2013)

Playing: Diablo 3, WOW, Far Cry 3 & X-Com.

Enjoyed: WOW 5 1/2 yrs, LOTRO 3yrs, GW 1/2yr, DFO 1yr, EVE Online 3yrs, and Huxley (Beta).

Failed to impress: GW2 3months, Tera Online 6 months (best combat system in any MMO I've played) STO 1/4yr, Aion 1/2yr, AoC 1yr, CO, Fallen Earth, DDO, EQ2 1/2yr, WAR 1/2yr, Lineage 2 and FF XI 1/2yr, FF XIV.

  crazynanny

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Posts: 175

9/22/11 5:09:10 AM#30

I'm gonna ask it here - how do You effectively end up with RMT farmers in loot based hack and slash game without making every single valuable item bind on pick up? As basically as long as You allow in game trading You are allowing RMT. Since so many people here say it's just a few hours of brainstorming, I'd like to hear some ideas.

 

Cause the way I see it Blizz didn't do it because they were greedy, but because in long term it costs loads of money to provide support(GMs to watch and ban, call center for "hacked" people that used RMT sites) and You get only one time box payment.  It's not an MMO with monthly payment or cash shop to provide profit that covers maintenance. Imo it was either provide RMAH(where You not only aren't paying but You can ear money) or monthly "sub" for using Bnet(here You are paying no matter what).

  Zadawn

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Joined: 11/04/10
Posts: 676

9/22/11 5:29:23 AM#31
Originally posted by Kaneth
Originally posted by hockeyplayr
Originally posted by Beazt

Yep, gonna skip D3 myself.

 

Also Check out "Path of Exile", gonna be F2P, cash shop is gonna be strictly cosmetics.

im in beta. it is definitely worth it

I too am in beta, and yes D3 is worth it. The AH doesn't bother me, because I don't have to use it. It doesn't infiltrate in-game at all. You have to select it from the main menu screen. At the moment, only the gold AH is available for testing, it works and looks like a AH in a mmorpg, except you are browsing from a menu and not on your character.

The RM AH isn't available for testing, and to be truthful, I probably won't even bother with it. I can see where the D3 AH could affect their esport arena in D3, but me purchasing or not purchasing items doesn't affect my PvE game at all. I also have a group of friends I will group with and won't group randomly with people.

Ignoring the AH aspect is fairly easy

there are people that don't have friends to play with.

  zymurgeist

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Joined: 12/24/04
Posts: 5212

9/22/11 5:33:03 AM#32
Originally posted by Zadawn
Originally posted by Kaneth
Originally posted by hockeyplayr
Originally posted by Beazt

Yep, gonna skip D3 myself.

 

Also Check out "Path of Exile", gonna be F2P, cash shop is gonna be strictly cosmetics.

im in beta. it is definitely worth it

I too am in beta, and yes D3 is worth it. The AH doesn't bother me, because I don't have to use it. It doesn't infiltrate in-game at all. You have to select it from the main menu screen. At the moment, only the gold AH is available for testing, it works and looks like a AH in a mmorpg, except you are browsing from a menu and not on your character.

The RM AH isn't available for testing, and to be truthful, I probably won't even bother with it. I can see where the D3 AH could affect their esport arena in D3, but me purchasing or not purchasing items doesn't affect my PvE game at all. I also have a group of friends I will group with and won't group randomly with people.

Ignoring the AH aspect is fairly easy

there are people that don't have friends to play with.

 Make some. It's not difficult.

"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  clankyasp

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Joined: 10/19/08
Posts: 217

9/22/11 5:37:13 AM#33

Who cares about people here boycoting , its going to outsell GuildWars2 and SWTOR easily. LOL

  Dvalon

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Joined: 8/10/07
Posts: 320

9/22/11 5:48:29 AM#34
Originally posted by clankyasp

Who cares about people here boycoting , its going to outsell GuildWars2 and SWTOR easily. LOL

It will do it by such a huge margin that the other two games wont even be in the same league as Diablo 3.

 

Bottom line people, all you that whine about the RMAH, dont use it, no one is forcing you, there will not be unique items on it only availble to cash spenders, so your not missing out on anything, every item that appears on either AH has been found by players, so I really dont see what your problems are other than hatting for the sake of it.

 

So some guy earns a few bucks from selling his epic drop who cares, another player could get the same item for free by finding out, or for some gold from the gold AH, its not like the cash payer is getting something you cant get for free, I am the most anti pay to win person you will ever find but I honestly do not consider this in the same category as some of you clearly do.

 

Nothing in diablo is locked off to people who only pay with cash, its all there, it all has the same drop rates for all players, you all have the same chance to find stuff, and you wont be scammed , ripped off, or conned by gold or item sellers because its all handled in game by blizzard.

 

And finally , Blizzard are taking a fixed rate per item, this fixed rate covers their banking admin charges, nothing more, so they will take the same amount from a blue as they will an epic, and probably a small amount at that, they stated a number of times that the fixed rate is and will be the bare minimum to cover admin fee's its not something they want to make money from, they just dont want to LOSE money on it. if they wanted to make money from it they would charge us a % of the sale, selling an item for 100 dollars would earn blizzard more money than selling an item for 10, but thats NOT what their doing.

 

 

  Requiamer

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Joined: 5/20/05
Posts: 2054

9/22/11 6:23:23 AM#35

Well i really dislike the whole idea behind the RMAH, so i'll have a wait stance about this game. At least a couple of month or more after launch.
 
It will all depend on the drop rate, fun factor versus item dependency in this game and other stuff like that. If the game is coded in such a manner that you absolutely need to go through the RMAH to get any enjoyment, then i will just pass. For example in the beta vid i saw its clear the drop rate is high, but the guys play in easy mode, there is nothing even fun to play in that mode, you are always at full health. Ye high drop rate mean nothing here since you will probably not play more than few days in that mode. Honestly i'm not even sure gamers ever use that mode, i sure never did in any game.
 
So it also depend a lot on how they split up the game between hardcore and the rest, as i assume only hardcore will really need RMAH (thats what happen in D2 at least), but assuming is not always right. You also want to know how is the hardcore mode split from the rest of the difficulty, if it is like in D2, hard coded then fine, but if they did this in an other "more subtle" manner it can cause a lot of trouble. So there are really to much questions to be answered, so i'll just wait to see how it work for real, and not only on paper. Somehow when it come to RMT, i know you just can't take what is told to you as given, thats simply not how it work.
 
The game look great for sure. But i just have some very bad feeling about this for many reasons, i have seen how much game mechanisms can influence such features as RMAH, and game companies are now very greedy because they need to show some whooping number in their benefit, and make a good game is simply not enough for many of those companies anymore. So i'll just wait and see for now. And honestly all the game companies totally underestimated the power of a single script to fuck up their virtual little world, and coding is their plain time job, so really i'm a bit skeptical here to say the least about this kind of feature.

  Dvalon

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Joined: 8/10/07
Posts: 320

9/22/11 6:29:12 AM#36
Originally posted by Requiamer

Well i really dislike the whole idea behind the RMAH, so i'll have a wait stance about this game. At least a couple of month or more after launch.
 
It will all depend on the drop rate, fun factor versus item dependency in this game and other stuff like that. If the game is coded in such a manner that you absolutely need to go through the RMAH to get any enjoyment, then i will just pass. For example in the beta vid i saw its clear the drop rate is high, but the guys play in easy mode, there is nothing even fun to play in that mode, you are always at full health. Ye high drop rate mean nothing here since you will probably not play more than few days in that mode. Honestly i'm not even sure gamers ever use that mode, i sure never did in any game.
 
So it also depend a lot on how they split up the game between hardcore and the rest, as i assume only hardcore will really need RMAH (thats what happen in D2 at least), but assuming is not always right. You also want to know how is the hardcore mode split from the rest of the difficulty, if it is like in D2, hard coded then fine, but if they did this in an other "more subtle" manner it can cause a lot of trouble. So there are really to much questions to be answered, so i'll just wait to see how it work for real, and not only on paper. Somehow when it come to RMT, i know you just can't take what is told to you as given, thats simply not how it work.
 
The game look great for sure. But i just have some very bad feeling about this for many reasons, i have seen how much game mechanisms can influence such features as RMAH, and game companies are now very greedy because they need to show some whooping number in their benefit, and make a good game is simply not enough for many of those companies anymore. So i'll just wait and see for now. And honestly all the game companies totally underestimated the power of a single script to fuck up their virtual little world, and coding is their plain time job, so really i'm a bit skeptical here to say the least about this kind of feature.

Yeah your not listening are you..

There is NOTHING forcing you to use the RMAH, the only difference between it and the gold auction house is the currency used, a player still has to drop an item, and then place it on the RMAH for some one else to buy, and since it costs money to post in the first place, and since the auction house's cover VAST regions like all of Europe nearly, then there will be no shortage of items on both Auction Houses.

 

Hell I actually plan on buying stuff from the Gold Auction house and then selling it on the RMAH when I notice a profit can be made, and from the RMAH to sell on the gold AH where I see some one selling something at a low price.

 

They are both the same only the currency changes.

  kasta

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Joined: 5/30/03
Posts: 518

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9/22/11 6:35:33 AM#37

There is nothing forcing me to buy this game either.  I dislike Blizzard strongly and no matter how much you apologize for them they still won't be getting a penny from me.

  Zadawn

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Joined: 11/04/10
Posts: 676

9/22/11 6:37:48 AM#38
Originally posted by zymurgeist
Originally posted by Zadawn
Originally posted by Kaneth
Originally posted by hockeyplayr
Originally posted by Beazt

Yep, gonna skip D3 myself.

 

Also Check out "Path of Exile", gonna be F2P, cash shop is gonna be strictly cosmetics.

im in beta. it is definitely worth it

I too am in beta, and yes D3 is worth it. The AH doesn't bother me, because I don't have to use it. It doesn't infiltrate in-game at all. You have to select it from the main menu screen. At the moment, only the gold AH is available for testing, it works and looks like a AH in a mmorpg, except you are browsing from a menu and not on your character.

The RM AH isn't available for testing, and to be truthful, I probably won't even bother with it. I can see where the D3 AH could affect their esport arena in D3, but me purchasing or not purchasing items doesn't affect my PvE game at all. I also have a group of friends I will group with and won't group randomly with people.

Ignoring the AH aspect is fairly easy

there are people that don't have friends to play with.

 Make some. It's not difficult.

i have more than plenty.they just aren't into gaming.

  Loke666

Elite Member

Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 16846

9/22/11 6:39:57 AM#39
Originally posted by Dvalon 

Yeah your not listening are you..

There is NOTHING forcing you to use the RMAH, the only difference between it and the gold auction house is the currency used, a player still has to drop an item, and then place it on the RMAH for some one else to buy, and since it costs money to post in the first place, and since the auction house's cover VAST regions like all of Europe nearly, then there will be no shortage of items on both Auction Houses.

Hell I actually plan on buying stuff from the Gold Auction house and then selling it on the RMAH when I notice a profit can be made, and from the RMAH to sell on the gold AH where I see some one selling something at a low price.

They are both the same only the currency changes.

Agreed, no one is forcing you to buy anything.

But I am personally taking a stand against all forms of cash shops and will for the principle of things get Torchlight 2 instead, it actually have more devs from the old Diablo games than D3 anyways.

EA and Activision are getting on my nerves by selling additional stuff for money, and the stuff are usually pretty expensive too (just look on the stuff they sell for Dragonage 2 and the price for it), I think that in single player games that will actually lead to increased piracy or in my case, me waiting until a gold edition is released.

  Zeus.CM

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9/22/11 9:44:59 AM#40

Does Diablo 3 have monthly fees or its just 50$ and play4ever?

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