Originally posted by Z3R01

Originally posted by Unlight

Mr. Barlow and Selene agree:  vampires > zombies. 

 

 

You and I both know those arent the vampires that everyone was dying for the last couple years. 

Its Twilight Vampires vs Walking dead Zombies!!! You still pick vamps dude? 

You pick the flavour of bloodsucker you want, and I'll pick the flavour that I want.  Just because Twilight decided to emo up vampires, doesn't mean it's now canon.  These are the vamps for me.  You're welcome to your assembly line undead flesh sacks if that's what tickles you.

Originally posted by Vlad_Tepes

Right now, the Zombie rules the day. Books, movies, games. But everything is cyclic, and the Zombie will once again fade into the shadows, even the current authors know it. 

It's truly a sad time for Vampire fans. Not that great Vampire books aren't being written, it's just hard to find them on the shelf stuffed with thousands of Teem/Young Adult/Adult Softcore Romance books. I blame Anne Rice/Rampling. Her "I love You, your so beautiful" romanticized Vampires really started this trend of writers like Hamilton, Banks, etc, that sell more than anything else. Even those authors credit her with being their inspiration. For every good Zombie or Vampire novel written there are hundreds if not thousands of the "Paranormal Romance" novels done. Ugh.

Mainstream Vampires quite frankly suck. We're even seeing Zombie Romance novels now, and not just a few, but many, and it's growing. Once again, Ugh.

It's all good I guess, everything changes, than changes back. Until than, I'll just go back and read Monastary by Whalen, They Thirst by McCammon, The Necroscope books by Lumley, Blood Red by Moore, etc. The Del Toro/Hogan series is good. The Maberry Joe Ledger series is good, as are Maberry's Rot & Ruin and Dust & Decay. (Though young adult they are well done and dark.)

I have and always will prefer Vampires. Just not these shiny, beautiful ones that are so popular now. I like my Vampires brutal, ugly, and consumed with only one thing, drinking the world.

 

 

You're probably the only other person I've come across whose read They Thirst.  Gonna have to go dig it up now that you've reminded me of it.

Originally posted by someforumguy

I would never chose zombies over vampires. Zombies are simply too stupid and because of that, too boring. I do hate the Twilight style of vampires though. From the current vampire tvseries I can only stand True Blood.

Zombies are so boring. I could see them as one of the monster types in some kind of post apocalyptic world (like Fallen Earth), but never as the main theme of a MMO. I find fighting zombies more boring then swatting mosquitos. At least mosquitos try to avoid your hits.

^^ this.. vampires all the way,  but not the oens related to the Twilight movies please, I mean real vampires.

I always thought Vampires were sissies,even before women turned them into sparkling emo sissies..

I grew up watching zombies,from the original Night of the living dead,to the cheesey 80's ones,to the remake of the original NotLD (which they took seriously and also scared the poo out of me.),to todays The Walking Dead,the show that,in my opinion,is the only thing worth a damn on TV these days.When it came to scary movies,Zombies were always my greatest fear and my greatest love.

Not some lame ass man with a black and red velvet cape,slicked back hair and fangs.

...Except female Vampires,they're ok becuase usually theyre pretty damn hot.

While I do agree with you all on the point that Twilight has really turned Vampires into tweeny popculture, it was actually around Anne Rice's Interveiw With a Vampire when Vampires starting making the slow and steady trek from blood thirsty bastard raised from the dead to feast on your blood to soft core porn aimed at the masses of horny housewives who want to suck on something.

Personally I really dispise the old and done to death undead themes. Writers need to take a step back from the average roadkill and take the time to create, but once again that's really all based on the agent's/production companies and directors willing to take on the role if a horror era revolution would ever take place.... nothing happens without money, and money never comes unless it makes more money.

Vampires before they were turned into glitterfreaks by far.

*thinks zombie*

*Thinks again...*

*thinks vampire*

Yeah... im pretty sure i dont give a fuck about what other people think vampire and zombies are, i mean twilight didnt ruin vampires for me, just as justin bieber didnt ruin music for me.

EVERYTHING can be a good movie/book/game provided that you know what you are doing. And even the best ideas can fail if you dont know what you are doing or are actively trying to ruin it.

Originally posted by Tanemund

  The reason none of my generation was kidnapped and molested was we were so busy and so adept at avoiding Vampires, Werewolves, Zombies and Frankenseins that we were impossible for regular humans to catch. 

 

I'm gonna have to quote this from now on...

Well done.

Seems a little off topic for a gaming site. But interesting and funny at the same time.  Enjoy =) btw my hair is better and I dont need hairspray

The spectre of death does not haunt me, for I am already dead- Some game quote.

I used to be mesmerized by vampires and disqusted by flesh oozing zombies. But it's been played out. What I fear now is no life beyond death. But I don't fear it enough not to want the release.

Originally posted by fansede

Originally posted by Kendane

Deadliest Warrior would disagree with ya, but they were using 30 days of night vampires.....and the vamp did sort of turn into a zombie? at the end.  Still nice write up, lame Mr sparkles vampires are the worst.

 

 

I saw that too - last night - I thought it was a Halloween special , but in September? Anyhow, who would have thought there were "zombie" experts? Vampire enthusiasts yes.  Guess the Vampires vs. Werewolves weren't as hotly debated?

 

Not only did I also see that Deadliest Warrior episode, I've got to throw my hat in with the 30 Days of Night crowd. I've got to say, I had some strong disagreements with their test data. Vampires succumbing to the zombie virus? Really?!? I always thought that LIVING things got infected with viruses, not other undead. Whatever.

Are zombies better than vamps? It depends. I agree w/Coyote that they are more entertaining to watch than sparkling/emo/douchebag teenage vamps. "Real" vampires (just my opinion and definition of) are much darker, sinister, blood-thirsty, cruel, feral, visceral, and just downright scary. I think 30 Days of Night nailed it and it's one of my all-time favorite vampire movies. Now zombies....ugh. There was a time and a day that I enjoyed a good zombie flick. That day, and ship, have LONG since sailed. The modern entertainment industry is like a zombie horde of zombie crap. Movies...TV shows...video games....books....sorry, I'm just zombied-out. If a zombie could do something other than travel in large groups, stumble around with arms outstretched, eat people, eat people's brains, burst through walls, burst through windows, burst through doors, burst through attic doors, burst through garage doors, rinse, repeat....I could maybe enjoy it. The only twists I ever see, anymore, on zombies; is where they show up, who they eat/chase, how they got to be zombies in the 1st plce, and whatever firecracker scares are thrown in. VERY boring and just played out. I'm gonna go take a nap while I wait for the zombies to catch up to me. Ciao.

That was - again - a hilarious read, thanks.

 Should have saved this rant for Halloween, same with that live Deadliest Warrior special lol (which I did not watch, good concept for a show but it was live and way too drawn out).

 Safe to say Twilight ruined vamps and i'm not sure hollywood will ever have the guts to go back to how they should be.. so zombies will be the clear winner for the seeable future. Though i'm getting quite sick of them personally..

I still have to go with vampires, but more like the ones in the Necroscope series of books by Brian Lumley, not the big girls blouse wearing wannabe hair dresser types of today, when I were a lad we had proper Vampires and al this was feilds you know, oh yes, and a tram was six pence.

I am sick to the back teeth of both of them in all honesty. 

But as for Vampires being lame these days... blame Anne Rice, not Twilight. She made the whole emotional vampire with a soul rubbish that led to that  popular .

I guess I have to agree with Coyote this time, teenage crap have destroyed a lot of the good muthology but zombies are hard to destroy...

I do think there atill are other cooler undeads than zombies who have an actual purpose and who really frightened people in ye olde days.

Revenants are frigging nasty and a lot of the really bad stuff later attributet to vampires are comming from them. Except that their bodies didn't look alive of course abnd people they showed themselves to died horrible soon.

Fylgja is the name of the undead the vikings feared (yeah, that was about the only thing they feared). They were really strong and almost impossible to kill while still having most of the zombie looks, but not the slow zombie speed.

The real problem with zombies is that "Death valley" is far more likelier than "The walking dead". People turn far too fast for it to ever become a world wide thing, and zombies are just too slow to kill the entire humanity except a few survivors.

A buddy of mine BTW have a zombie survival kit at home ready for the war. Really he has, he was also kind enough to list me as the number one guy he wanted with him (I have several real swords and a armor, those would be pretty useful if the zobies actually would come since swords don't need ammo). :)

Originally posted by vesavius

I am sick to the back teeth of both of them in all honesty. 

But as for Vampires being lame these days... blame Anne Rice, not Twilight. She made the whole emotional vampire with a soul rubbish that led to that  popular .

She is not the only one or even the first one, there are plenty of books 20 years older with the same theme. But for pop culture is she and Mark Reinhagen two of the worst culprits (Mark created Vampire the masquerade that CCP is making a MMO of).

All that said, even the Anne Rice vampires didn't glitter or date hill billy girls. Twilight and True blood are a few steps worse than anything before. Just look on the old "Kindred - the embraced" serie Spelling made based on Reinhagens lore (with a lot of people from Melrose place), it was bad but nowhere near Twilight bad.

all i have to say is watch Hellsing OVA there is the most badass vampire ever

Originally posted by crusnik022

all i have to say is watch Hellsing OVA there is the most badass vampire ever

Alucard is just Dracula and the OVA is OK but not amazing.

The manga though is kickass, I love when the nazi vamps and werewolfs attack London in zeppelins. :)

I still think Bram Stoker did the best work (not in any movies but in the book) and Dracula is really a must read. The only book that have been more massacred in bad movies than it is Shelleys brilliant Frankenstein.

How weak is your mind if only 4 books (that in 3 years will be lost in oblivion...) can change the way you see vampires?

1k years of legends, books, comics, movies againt 5 years of teen bad literature?

Man up.