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hugtime4ever Novice Member Joined: 10/31/10 Posts: 39	9/15/11 12:40:54 PM#21 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Can these "MOBA" games please go to RTSguru.com since they are not MMO's but RTS games. Looking forward to ArcheAge, Dragon's Prophet and uhh.. Uhh.... playing: Civ 5, Torchlight 2, Tony Hawk Pro Skater HD, FTL.
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BillMurphy Managing Editor Joined: 7/28/06 Posts: 1101	9/15/11 12:47:52 PM#22 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) This isn't the place to have this discussion again, but I'll chirp in. :) SMITE and Wrath of Heroes are actually quite a bit more like MMOs than RTS, at least from a controls and mechanics sort of way. Rise of Immortals has the shared public space part too, which brings it halfway between MMORTS and MOBA. The ones that push the limits of "MMO" a bit more are League of Legends and the like. I can see your argument there. That said, the coverage will probably keep on this site, as it's proven we've got an audience for them. And we do categorize as much as possible, with future enhancements for this on the way. My Review Manifesto Follow me on Twitter if you dare.
Lumanil Novice Member Joined: 11/08/09 Posts: 112	9/15/11 12:52:14 PM#23 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Do you realize that even a MMO can be an RTS ? Therefore and MMORTS. These kind of games doesn't exclude eachother.
Urvan Hard Core Member Joined: 7/28/04 Posts: 554 "How do you prove that you exist..? Maybe we don't exist.." Vivi, Final Fantasy IX	9/15/11 1:14:16 PM#24 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Argh.. as much as I enjoyed the original MOBAs such as of course dota, and those that followed such as LoL and HoN but this is getting rediculous now. We don't need more than half a dozen versions of this and its just getting as sad as people repeating the WoW design, we don't want it anymore! give us something new FFS.
neonwire Novice Member Joined: 12/19/04 Posts: 1808	9/15/11 1:22:22 PM#25 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Ozmodan I don't understand the fascination with MOBA's. Tried League of Legends and found it highly repetitive and boring. Yeah because mmos dont have any repetition in them do they palm face
hugtime4ever Novice Member Joined: 10/31/10 Posts: 39	9/15/11 1:25:35 PM#26 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Everything can be a MMO from Tetris Online to bunny cuddle the MMO. What's your point? Looking forward to ArcheAge, Dragon's Prophet and uhh.. Uhh.... playing: Civ 5, Torchlight 2, Tony Hawk Pro Skater HD, FTL.
neonwire Novice Member Joined: 12/19/04 Posts: 1808	9/15/11 1:25:38 PM#27 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by saker *Originally posted by Saboterr* *Originally posted by Ozmodan* I don't understand the fascination with MOBA's. Tried League of Legends and found it highly repetitive and boring. Same as asking whats the fascination with any other game genre? People like it, nothing more to it. It's a competitive game genre, if you're not competitive, you won't like it. He means if you're not a pvp a.d.d-riddled teen. So anyone who likes competing with others in games is an a.d.d-riddled teen? Hmmm ok
User Deleted	9/15/11 1:29:43 PM#28 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by saker *Originally posted by Saboterr* *Originally posted by Ozmodan* I don't understand the fascination with MOBA's. Tried League of Legends and found it highly repetitive and boring. Same as asking whats the fascination with any other game genre? People like it, nothing more to it. It's a competitive game genre, if you're not competitive, you won't like it. He means if you're not a pvp a.d.d-riddled teen.
ZoeMcCloskey Hard Core Member Joined: 7/14/05 Posts: 1031 INTJ, polite but difficult to be friends with :P	9/15/11 2:01:18 PM#29 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I have a lot of fun with League of Legends and Global Agenda so I will definitely be trying this one out when it is ready :)
Arquiteto Novice Member Joined: 5/12/10 Posts: 234	9/15/11 2:16:22 PM#30 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I can not wait for this game. I love the idea of LOL but the overhead RTS feel has kept me away from the whole MOBA genre.
Maelkor Hard Core Member Joined: 8/20/05 Posts: 441	9/15/11 4:30:02 PM#31 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by BillMurphy This isn't the place to have this discussion again, but I'll chirp in. :) SMITE and Wrath of Heroes are actually quite a bit more like MMOs than RTS, at least from a controls and mechanics sort of way. Rise of Immortals has the shared public space part too, which brings it halfway between MMORTS and MOBA. The ones that push the limits of "MMO" a bit more are League of Legends and the like. I can see your argument there. That said, the coverage will probably keep on this site, as it's proven we've got an audience for them. And we do categorize as much as possible, with future enhancements for this on the way. I dont object to MOBA's being listed here, however, I do think a Reorginization is definately in order. As one who comes to this site to look primarily for MMO style RPG's IE: EQ, Warhammer, Not WOW, etc...I get tired of browsing through all of the trash games looking for the normal games. I am personally not interested in browser stuff, free to play or even asian style conversion games. The ability to sort all of that stuff out of my viewing would greatly enhance my enjoyment and usage of this webiste. I do enjoy MOBA's and do see a place for them on this website, however, I understand many do not. The ability to look at the catagories clearly sorted would be very nice.
User Deleted	9/15/11 8:12:53 PM#32 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Protip, not everyone knows what a MOBA is, using a term as if they do won't help it catch on.
RATFather Novice Member Joined: 2/08/06 Posts: 57 "I can't help it if Nature wrapped my meat in cute fury little packages. Load the shotgun... now."	9/15/11 9:34:59 PM#33 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by hugtime4ever Can these "MOBA" games please go to RTSguru.com since they are not MMO's but RTS games. I cannot possibly concur greater.
RATFather Novice Member Joined: 2/08/06 Posts: 57 "I can't help it if Nature wrapped my meat in cute fury little packages. Load the shotgun... now."	9/15/11 9:36:36 PM#34 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by ZoeMcCloskey I have a lot of fun with League of Legends and Global Agenda so I will definitely be trying this one out when it is ready :) How did you put these two game genres together in the same sentance?
Somart Apprentice Member Joined: 11/21/09 Posts: 61	9/15/11 11:03:48 PM#35 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by RATFather *Originally posted by ZoeMcCloskey* I have a lot of fun with League of Legends and Global Agenda so I will definitely be trying this one out when it is ready :) How did you put these two game genres together in the same sentance? well thats easy. LoL and SMITE both being MOBAs and Global Agenda and SMITE both being made by Hi Rez studios.
Phry Elite Member Joined: 7/01/04 Posts: 3783	9/16/11 12:50:37 AM#36 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) must admit, i'd never heard of the term MOBA before either.. if it was a game where you could create your own toons etc it might be interesting.. but using a bunch of pre-generated toons in continous cycle of battlegrounds... tbh, i'd rather play Left4Dead .. then again.. i never saw the appeal of LoL either, so i am kind of curious.. do these kinds of games appeal to MMO players generally, because as a player heavily into PvP i have to say i really don't get it... ?
maccajnr Apprentice Member Joined: 11/26/05 Posts: 76	9/16/11 12:56:06 AM#37 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) This game looks more and more interesting. Might even end up a WoW killer
Phry Elite Member Joined: 7/01/04 Posts: 3783	9/16/11 1:02:39 AM#38 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by maccajnr This game looks more and more interesting. Might even end up a WoW killer Roflmao .... always enjoy a good laugh at breakfast
jpnz Hard Core Member Joined: 6/29/06 Posts: 2950	9/16/11 3:10:28 AM#39 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Phry must admit, i'd never heard of the term MOBA before either.. if it was a game where you could create your own toons etc it might be interesting.. but using a bunch of pre-generated toons in continous cycle of battlegrounds... tbh, i'd rather play Left4Dead .. then again.. i never saw the appeal of LoL either, so i am kind of curious.. do these kinds of games appeal to MMO players generally, because as a player heavily into PvP i have to say i really don't get it... ? I suspect the appeal of MOBA games are that it is PVP without the 'grind'. Wonder why there seems to be more haters on the internet? Read this by an actual marketing guy to find out why. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/first-personmarketer/8081-Trolls-Haters-and-Flame-War-Generals-Thank-You
getona Advanced Member Joined: 9/14/07 Posts: 94	9/16/11 3:17:47 AM#40 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) I really hate the Term MOBA to be apply to DotA Games DotA = AOS (Aeon Of Strike), proper name Action RTS / RPS. MOBA sounds like Arena RPG Map with no creep lanes.