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OP  9/11/11 8:07:33 AM#1

The announcement that Cryptic's Star Trek Online would be going free to play, while not unexpected, came as a surprise timing-wise when it was announced a week or so ago. Industry Relations Manager Garrett Fuller caught up with STO's Executive Producer Dan Stahl to talk about the future of Star Trek Online as a F2P title. Keep reading and then be sure to leave us your comments.

Will this model give more optins to Klingon players?

What this model does is help move the Klingon players closer to being on par with the Federation. It means more ships, more costumes, more content that they can play. By increasing their starting level, it also means improving their leveling progression and ensuring there is a good PVE experience for Klingon players who do not want to PVP.

Read more of Garrett Fuller's Star Trek Online: F2P Interview with Dan Stahl.

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9/12/11 8:12:24 AM#2
Why would people pay or f2p a game that hasn't had any playable content in 7 months, again? Why was that question not asked?
Cryptic promises much but delivers little.

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9/12/11 8:17:32 AM#3

@above: haven't they been adding missions,  episodes and story arcs and other content every month or two?

I felt there could have been a few other pertinent (to me) questions asked, such as, 'will FTP players be able to use the Foundry?'.


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9/12/11 8:24:16 AM#4

I considered myself a StarTrek fan. I own the next generation complete series dvd, even own a few StarTrek games for pc. I didn't even consider playing this game. I'm still wondering how any model F2P or P2P made any profit, this game was atrocious.



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9/12/11 8:27:48 AM#5

This is a very lean game.  What they need to do is add loads more missions.  As it stands now, in order to get to your max level, you've pretty much have to do all the missions in the game.  The Foundery and Weekly episodes are great but if this game wants to survive it's needs to have some depth.  And at least two complete factions.

I'm pretty sure that the reason progress is so slow is due to the fact that any major change has to be green lighted by CBS.  And from what I've seen, those guys can be kind of stingy on that front.  Took forever for them to give permission for the Enterprise-F.


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9/12/11 8:50:03 AM#6
@korvass nope. System and area redesigns but not one mission

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9/12/11 8:52:18 AM#7
Another good question could have been : um....why not finish the kdf faction before f2p? What makes your customers believe you will finish it at any point otherwise?

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9/12/11 9:49:44 AM#8

That's answered in the F2P matrix, you can't create foundry missions as a free player but I believe you can still play missions others have created.


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9/12/11 9:56:14 AM#9

Didn't they add the story missions this year staran?


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9/12/11 10:00:22 AM#10

Wow I didn't really believe there had been a content drought for 7 months. Sure enough I looked it up on their page and the last mission they made was revealed on March 5th of this year.


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9/12/11 10:06:33 AM#11

Originally posted by korvass

I felt there could have been a few other pertinent (to me) questions asked, such as, 'will FTP players be able to use the Foundry?'.

Cryptic has already stated in their last news post about F2P that the foundry will only be available to premium members.


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9/12/11 10:07:40 AM#12

Post didn't finishe lol....but to korvass Cryptic already stated in their last news article on F2P that the foundry will only be available for premium members.


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9/12/11 10:27:33 AM#13

I'm actually looking more forward to STO going ftp than I am for the release of SWTOR online.  At least with this I'll be getting my monies worth.


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9/12/11 10:48:27 AM#14

F2P ( and that means do NOT spend any cash on this game) is the only way i would say to go if any that want to try this out.

Unless and untill, they (Cryptic) can prove that they will take any problems that they have with their store not working properly, and make sure that they FIX those issues and not give people that spend cash the run a round, there is no way i would trust them with your cash.

If the new company allows Cryptic to continue to run  and operate the C-store and provide tech/customer support, then you are taking a serious chance that you will lose your cash to bugs, and be told that their logs show nothing or the wrong info.

And that will be ALL you will be told, their logs show this and that is the end. Even escalating the issue to their supposedly upper tier you get the exact same message before they close tickests, the logs show this, and they will flatly refuse to even look at your characters to verify what you are telling them.

This type of customer service, especially, on a cash shop type game, ifs totally unexceptable. And it really is a shame, this game would be nice for a casual game, pay as you go. It really is deeper than it appears to be on first look, what with all the captain and bridge officer skills.

I was having fun playing up untill i ran into issues with the C-store and horrible customer service that appears to be the norm for Cryptic.


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9/12/11 11:21:04 AM#15

Originally posted by spacebot

Didn't they add the story missions this year staran?


The last weekly episode of the last Featured Series was released at the end of March. They have also gone back and Remastered 3 other missions as well (and made those playable at any level), which effectively made them new missions also.

I think a lot of STO players (the vocal ones, anyway) had gotten accostomed to seeing a new Featured Episode Series every couple months, and got disallusioned when production focus seemed to switch from rapidly spitting out story content to making system updates and changes like the change to ground combat and now gearing up for the new F2P model.


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9/12/11 1:03:00 PM#16
Which is my comment: why not fix the content problems with the game before f2p?
It is like last year when they would have welcome back weekends and people who left the game and said "Uh...there is still nothing to do but buy c-store junk"....

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9/12/11 1:26:35 PM#17

Even F2P I'm not gonna play STo. I tried it in beta and was so happy with it, never to buy it at all!

Sorry for the (few?) fanbois here, but STo is the lamest excuse for a MMO there is...

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9/12/11 2:44:49 PM#18

I wonder if they'll finally add bridges to the starships. Last time I played it was like playing an RTS game in space. When it came to space battles. Its Star Trek for cryin' out loud. If I'm a Captain, I want to have my character sitting in  the captain's chair giving commands to my crew. Thats how a reall Star Trek game should be played. Of course if you're in a small shuttle you'd only have a cockpit, but in a starship you should have a full size bridge at least. A whole explorable starship would be best, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.  I'd be happy with a bridge though.

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9/12/11 2:48:45 PM#19
Originally posted by purewitz

I wonder if they'll finally add bridges to the starships. Last time I played it was like playing an RTS game in space. When it came to space battles. Its Star Trek for cryin' out loud. If I'm a Captain, I want to have my character sitting in  the captain's chair giving commands to my crew. Thats how a reall Star Trek game should be played. Of course if you're in a small shuttle you'd only have a cockpit, but in a starship you should have a full size bridge at least. A whole explorable starship would be best, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.  I'd be happy with a bridge though.

They do have bridges and other explorable areas of the ships. You can't do anything usefull from them other than set-up episode replay, but they do exist.

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9/12/11 3:49:53 PM#20

I'm betting this F2p model won't be as sucessful as there Champions Online F2p model, reason being they will be bogged down by approval process from CBS. Its one thing to have a vision for a game then have those ideas turn down by CBS. 

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