So first Face Book to get into Beta and now this?! WTF! Never lost  interest in a MMO that fast. Think EA and Funcom are like Laurel and Hardy, trying to rob us. They first shoot themselfs in the feet, befor they see some of my cash! R.I.P TSW!

its fail com! have people really forgotten they hype and subsequent car crash that was Aoc? i will never give these jokers any more money.

P2P + cash shop worked fine for WoW, so why can't it work for TSW?

Originally posted by Treekodar

P2P + cash shop worked fine for WoW, so why can't it work for TSW?

WoW didn't launch with one. It came far later and after WOW had a huge established customer base who were vested in their characters.

TSW is trying to launch with it. Don't be surprised if it significantly impacts their potential customer base in a negative way. If it doesn't, good for Funcom. One thing is for sure, though. People that were interested in playing it aren't now. nad those people have friends they drag along with them from game to game. You can bet those friends aren't going to play either, and so on, and so forth.

I have an idea! How about we pay a monthly fee, a box fee, a in game shop and EA can tack on a service charge of say 9.99$ a month to use their service Origins!

All I can say is this article just let me know TSW is a trash game that will be quickly overshadowed by STWORS and GW2.

I wonder if EA already knows this game will tank so they are tacking this on to make as much as possible for at least the first year while the game is running?

  The fact that I normally like cash shops that arent pay to win.. I mean its nothing to me to support developers of a game i play everyday to get some really cool ingame items..  I dont even want to know how much ive spent on mmos in my life, so this doesnt really effect my choice to not play this game..

You know what did? This game has looked completely retarded WAY before they announced the cash shop, back when I read about it semi in depth and said LOL no thanks..

Well looks like it's between GW2 and SWTOR for me now then. Lets see what MT SWTOR announce before I finally decide.

SUB + CS..  lol..  seriously have to have something wrong with you to think this is not just greed.

What's worse are the people saying they will play but not use the shop.. So you're happy to buy a game.. pay for the game monthly  and not get access to all the content..  lol

Look, if you're that eager to give funcom the cash then why not just send them it in the post.. Sure they wont say no..  Sure they would even happily give you a pretty pink reciept.

Now I wonder where I can get a list of people emails from who think this sort of crap is a great as I need some help getting a vast sum of cash out of the country and they sound like they would be ideal candidates to help me.

Lots of angry angries here.  I won't pay for something in a game I'm paying for, so...I won't play this one.  Take care!

FailCom again, ..... i'm out of here .... i realy was looking forward ...

Not only Funcom are greedy, the whole industry is going fot the big buck. Same old games over and over and over again. TSW at least brings something different (I hope so). Aaahhhh no point in such discussion, I personally will wait and see, maybe it will work well. :)

Originally posted by Flinor

It's articles like these and mindless consumer sheeple that encourage the industry to adopt this IDIOTIC trend! Why on earth should I pay for items when I already BOUGHT the game and actively PAYING a monthly subscription?

This trend needs to be STOPPED and the only way of effectively doing that is that we ( the paying customers and game enthusiasts ) make a stand and refuse to be ripped off.

So please stop promoting corporate interests on a mainstream MMO site. It just tarnishes your credibility!

 

 I couldn't agree more.   Cash shop + subscription is fail! 

Over time, all content will be geared to things they can charge for  in store.  Once they hook you, they keep you paying. 

I prefer subscription based, but I wouldn't be against purely cash shop game.

Subscription based + cash shop = no

Cash Shop and sub can be so expensive as a gamer...especially if it has an RvR or PvP content as this one does. If playing the game actively we could be talking effectively doubling or trebling a normal sub. 

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Originally posted by Illyssia
Cash Shop and sub can be so expensive as a gamer...especially if it has an RvR or PvP content as this one does. If playing the game actively we could be talking effectively doubling or trebling a normal sub. 

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Originally posted by lizardbones

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If it's too expensive, do not play the game. If they put something in the cs that crosses the line from 'fluff' to 'power', do not play the game. This is one of the things where you actually have a choice.

Personally, I think they are hedging their bets. They know they are going to get an influx of players, and then the game population is going to drop off. If the game population is pretty stable, then great. They can keep putting fluff items in the cs. If they do go with a F2P option, they already have a cs in place and can use it to put premium items in there like faster skill point accumulation.

 

Oh sure it is logical from Funcom point of view. They might or might not end up good with going with double diping , but I understand them. I mean if it will work they will earn more. Simple.

Though I don't really care about their reasons or their point of view. From my point of view as consumer it is bad. Not only beacuse of price (as I would accept higher sub price if that could give me not CS) , but becasue I don't like to have CS in game for many diffrent reasons. Them having infrastructure in game since day 1 for fast P2P -> F2P transition , also is big disadvantage for me as I don't want to lay f2p game.

So I am going to vote with my vallet and don't play this game.

To get an idea of what TSW's cash shop and rpices may be like, just take a look at AoC's cash shop. Many items are fairly pricey, and many vanity items tend to be per character instead of per account. Expect to see those double xp potions as well.

Originally posted by Dinendae

To get an idea of what TSW's cash shop and rpices may be like, just take a look at AoC's cash shop. Many items are fairly pricey, and many vanity items tend to be per character instead of per account. Expect to see those double xp potions as well.

No way there can be any kind of justification for a cash shop like this with a monthly sub. And it will get worse because items that give advantage will be a must at some point to compete (getting skill points with double or triple speed is advantage). For those who are yelling that those against sub + cash shop should get a job I can say only this - I have enough money but I don't hate it.

Watched Skyrim game play yesterday and this game seems to be better than most current MMOs, plus not having a terrible community is like a bonus.

Originally posted by lizardbones

 

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Originally posted by Illyssia
Cash Shop and sub can be so expensive as a gamer...especially if it has an RvR or PvP content as this one does. If playing the game actively we could be talking effectively doubling or trebling a normal sub. 

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If it's too expensive, do not play the game. If they put something in the cs that crosses the line from 'fluff' to 'power', do not play the game. This is one of the things where you actually have a choice.

Personally, I think they are hedging their bets. They know they are going to get an influx of players, and then the game population is going to drop off. If the game population is pretty stable, then great. They can keep putting fluff items in the cs. If they do go with a F2P option, they already have a cs in place and can use it to put premium items in there like faster skill point accumulation.

 

Don't worry, most of the people complaining about there beign a cash shop in the game won't play the game at all now because there's a cash shop.

There's also a sick irony to them adding a cash shop to their game before even going free to play. They're driving away a lot of potential sub paying customers by adding a cash shop, thus losing out on a lot of initial box sales. The people who are fine with cash shops are the ones that influx after the game goes F2P. Net result, Funcom loses out on potential revenue by jumping the gun by adding a cash shop far too early.

Originally posted by Zadawn

NO,a cash shop in a p2p game DOESN'T make sense at all no matter what it has for sale.Even cosmetics are bad in a p2p game.I Don't want someone's character to look cooler than mine just because he paid more,on the other hand,i don't mind if someone else's character looks cooler than mine because he played more or better than me.

TL:DR : cash shops in a p2p game is unfair and sucks.

And I think it's not fair that other people have way more time than I do and therefore get better stuff. Why shouldn't I be allowed to compensate that with money?

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Originally posted by Ceridith

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Originally posted by lizardbones

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Originally posted by Illyssia
Cash Shop and sub can be so expensive as a gamer...especially if it has an RvR or PvP content as this one does. If playing the game actively we could be talking effectively doubling or trebling a normal sub. 

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If it's too expensive, do not play the game. If they put something in the cs that crosses the line from 'fluff' to 'power', do not play the game. This is one of the things where you actually have a choice.

Personally, I think they are hedging their bets. They know they are going to get an influx of players, and then the game population is going to drop off. If the game population is pretty stable, then great. They can keep putting fluff items in the cs. If they do go with a F2P option, they already have a cs in place and can use it to put premium items in there like faster skill point accumulation.

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Don't worry, most of the people complaining about there beign a cash shop in the game won't play the game at all now because there's a cash shop.
There's also a sick irony to them adding a cash shop to their game before even going free to play. They're driving away a lot of potential sub paying customers by adding a cash shop, thus losing out on a lot of initial box sales. The people who are fine with cash shops are the ones that influx after the game goes F2P. Net result, Funcom loses out on potential revenue by jumping the gun by adding a cash shop far too early.

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Originally posted by lizardbones

 

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Originally posted by Ceridith

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Originally posted by lizardbones

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Originally posted by Illyssia
Cash Shop and sub can be so expensive as a gamer...especially if it has an RvR or PvP content as this one does. If playing the game actively we could be talking effectively doubling or trebling a normal sub. 

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If it's too expensive, do not play the game. If they put something in the cs that crosses the line from 'fluff' to 'power', do not play the game. This is one of the things where you actually have a choice.

Personally, I think they are hedging their bets. They know they are going to get an influx of players, and then the game population is going to drop off. If the game population is pretty stable, then great. They can keep putting fluff items in the cs. If they do go with a F2P option, they already have a cs in place and can use it to put premium items in there like faster skill point accumulation.

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Don't worry, most of the people complaining about there beign a cash shop in the game won't play the game at all now because there's a cash shop.
There's also a sick irony to them adding a cash shop to their game before even going free to play. They're driving away a lot of potential sub paying customers by adding a cash shop, thus losing out on a lot of initial box sales. The people who are fine with cash shops are the ones that influx after the game goes F2P. Net result, Funcom loses out on potential revenue by jumping the gun by adding a cash shop far too early.

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Are they actually losing a noticeable number of subs though? One thing I've noticed over the years is that forum population opinions are really skewed away from the general population of players. This is more extreme with mmorpg and even more extreme from that on these forums in particular.

I can honestly see a lot of people being happy that they can buy additional clothing and style items from an in game store. In other words, it's attractive to a lot of people. People like shopping. You can blame it on the Piggly Wiggly supermarket. Seriously, look it up on Google.

 

OFF TOPIC:  The first time I traveled to the south for an extended period and saw that the local supermarket was called the Piggly Wiggly, I about died from laughter.

Topic:  I think that the devs took one look at the fluff shop Blizz has in play and said to themselves "we can milk this like they did and bring in some bank!"  It may or may not work for em if it stays fluff.  If they make it a one stop power shop, that's goin to turn off many of the gamers (myself included) that think that the pay to win model is actually better named pay to fail.