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9/06/11 8:35:09 AM#41



*Goes back to playing Allods*


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9/06/11 10:43:54 AM#42

I don't think it should be an MMO but I would absolutely love an online mode that would allow you to play and explore with a friend. I would also want it to scale to be more challenging with multiple people.


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9/06/11 10:51:19 AM#43

Creating a TES game with a huge persistent world and first person action combat (as well as all the non-combat options of TES games) is impossible at this point. Perhaps in the near future a TES game set up similar to GW1 is more feasible with persistent towns and a big instanced world. On the long term however, when technology and internet speeds have increased I have no doubt that we will see a truely persistent online TES game.


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9/06/11 4:09:20 PM#44

good! i'm glad he thinks that way, turning tes into an mmo would kill it as anything else. why bother with single player games when you can make an mmo and print money, no need for writing anything deeper than fedex quests and raiding, just churn out the same tired crap over and over again.


no thanks!, even if skyrim isn't shakespeare, it is still better than any of the junk most mmos come out with by miles.  shoot who wants to be a number in a line to a quest mob over being a hero saving the world?


not me lol.


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9/06/11 4:10:40 PM#45
Originally posted by Skeeterxi

I don't think it should be an MMO but I would absolutely love an online mode that would allow you to play and explore with a friend. I would also want it to scale to be more challenging with multiple people.

lol oblivion has a plugin you can get that claims to do this.

never tried it though.


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9/07/11 8:54:34 AM#46

I think I disagree with practically everyone on this thread. I think an Elder Scrolls MMO would be absolutely awesome if done correctly. It could be a truelly great Theme Park/Sandbox hybrid with freedom to go about the cities and country side at will. It could be a totally seperate storyline from the single player game and I think with the right amount of resources, time and careful planning they could make a truelly awesome game.

I don't know why everyone is so against it, odds are Bethesda would still make the single player game and Zeni Max online would do the MMORPG. You don't want to play the latter, don't play it. Just keep playing the single player game and ignore the MMO.

Part of me isn't convinced either. I still think this maybe something Zeni Max Online is still working on especially as they have recently bought theelderscrollsonline dotcom.

I guess we shall see.


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9/07/11 9:08:12 AM#47

I see this as good news, myself.

TES has only been, in my mind, a single player experience. Putting it in an MMO setting with greifers, trolls, little children running about, elitists - - the whole player community spectrum, good and bad - -  would really spoil the atmosphere that TES gives me.

Want TES online? Play Fallout Online as a melee character! :D /shrug


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9/07/11 1:31:41 PM#48

The world of TES would make for a good MMO setting IMO.. The scale of the world is really being lost on SP games.

And there is still that game out there being made by Matt Firor and Zenimax.. Though that may be a Fallout MMO considering how all the whining going on about the license.


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9/07/11 2:45:22 PM#49

Elder Scrolls is not MMO material it should stay solo becouse its one of best solo rpg series ever created sinds 1994.

I never was a fan of TES  hoping it would become a MMO.  Let bethesda make solo games thats what they can make best.

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9/07/11 2:58:25 PM#50
Originally posted by honoursword

I don't know why everyone is so against it, [...]

Because I cant play many singleplayer games, but only ONE MMO.

So yeah, I prefer it if MMOs are kind of, well, special. To me, TES is a very generic fantasy setting that has no specific advantage over any other fantasy setting. And the idea of having a ruleset like the one of TES in a MMO is a nightmare to me.

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9/07/11 3:46:28 PM#51

Elder Scrolls has a huge mod community, maybe if they decided to delve into the online world they could just create a non typical MMO.  Let the community host their own servers and create their own rule sets and what not. People could host their own private servers for their friends and guilds. MMO probably wouldn't be the right word for a game like that.


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9/07/11 3:52:51 PM#52

I could really see this working in a Minecraft esque way. Not a bad idea at all.

"Onward to adventure".


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9/07/11 3:58:52 PM#53
Originally posted by 4getting2009
Originally posted by Adamantine
Originally posted by Venekor

That's good and I agree with him, Elder Scrolls should stay what it is, like what KOTOR should have done.

This statement makes no sense whatsoever.

KotOR was a short series of two games that was long dead years ago.  KotOR1 was created by Bioware, Canada. KotOR2 was created by Obsidiant Entertainment. Neither of these companies has any control over the question if KotOR3 is produced.

TOR has, at best, a certain similarity in the name. As a game, its completely different. The company that creates it is a THIRD company, Bioware Austin.

The only true link between KotOR1+KotOR2 and the new TOR is Lucas Arts and the Star Wars setting. But there are tons of Star Wars games out there.

So yeah, what the hell are you talking about. Its like saying that Dungeons and Dragons Online killed Baldurs Gate 3. Nope, thats not what happened.

 You would be wrong on the point of  real connections. You realise Revan, Malgus, and the descendants of Bastilla (and possibly Revan)  Are all driving plot points in TOR right? This is KOTOR Online. KOTOR 3 is extremely unlikely. While developed by different bodies they are all portraying the same continuity. (KOTOR1 > TOR being the strongest link). Lucas Arts will decide if KOTOR 3 is produced.

Also of Note:

Obisdian Entertainment (formerly Black Isle Entertainment) has a history on working with Bioware's engines (Icewindale using the Baldur's Gate Engine)

I just wanted to see a single player KOTOR with a proper story personal to you and that plays like Mass Effect. Instead we'll get a WoW clone with a weak story to get you to the level cap. I know they keep feeding us the bullshit line of it being KOTOR 3,4,5,6 etc etc. I've followed games all my life and just know this to be a bullshit statement. From what I've seen of the leaked gameplay, it's basically WoW gameplay with annoying cutscenes you do not want to watch while you're playing with your friends. 

Just give me KOTOR 3...


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9/08/11 1:29:21 AM#54
Originally posted by Adamantine
Originally posted by honoursword

I don't know why everyone is so against it, [...]

Because I cant play many singleplayer games, but only ONE MMO.

So yeah, I prefer it if MMOs are kind of, well, special. To me, TES is a very generic fantasy setting that has no specific advantage over any other fantasy setting. And the idea of having a ruleset like the one of TES in a MMO is a nightmare to me.

But it seems they are not straying away from the single player game anyway what with Skyrim coming out in November so as long as the single player game doesn't suffer why so against it? Just don't play the MMORPG that would probably be made by Zeni Max Online and not Bethesda. I stated before it could be a totally different story line unrelated to anything we have seen so far.

I can understand people who think it is a bad idea and just say "look I don't think it would work" which is fair enough, but people saying "this is the best news ever" and "awesome decision Todd" just doesn't make sense to me. Why be against creating an MMO that some players want and doesn't really effect you in any way?

I think if they did do it most people would play it anyway, I wonder how many people said a big no to a Warcraft MMO those many moons ago?


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9/08/11 2:22:09 PM#55

Closed minded thinking,Elder Scrolls would make a great MMO the world is great setting and they can create a great scenario for MMO if they choosed but a better use for the Elders Scrolls IP would be a  Online RPG aka Corpg or MORPG like Vindictus,Global Agenda,Borderlands or Guild Wars 1.

Imagine if the cities and selected areas where Online lobbies areas where you could meet up with people to do dungeons or quest,sell stuff,socialize,fight other players in arenas,etc.I am 100% percent sure anybody who played a mmo and played a Elders Scrolls game at point hasn't said i wish i could do this with somebody.

Making it a full mmo would lose you are Hero in your own story but making "lobby MMO" keeps as the Hero in your in your story and lets you play with other players and aviod all of crazy stuff like ganking and having to balance spells because they are too powerful.Would having people running around in the cities in Elder Scrolls and being able to take four people out to do a quest be the worst thing that could happen?

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