I have the same problem...kinda...

As I have become sick of using regular tide Laundry detergent I have resorted to washing my clothes in just piss water. I have been to their web site and they are releacing Tide Ultra XXX Nitro eXtreem in 5 months But I dont think its for me.

So can anyone tell me what this new Laundry detergent has for me? Whats so good about it? I mean it is just soap really, right? Like I said though I have been to the web site , watched a bunch of vids of people washing their clothes with it. They even have a features section talking about it with other users. But yeah..I dont see anything there for me.

Why should I use it? Kinda feel like I should..but just dont like anything about it..Please help!

 Wait.................are you saying i should sample something myself...............OMG Dot Dot Smileyface. Hold on there are people finally talking about my post on hand sanitizer!

first there is the question if this is, in fact, a star wars mmo. 

after considering the obvious violations to the star wars principles, concept and ideals move on to contemplate if a static, linear gameplay best fits the freedom and rich variety the films portrayed.

passed that, you might conclude that your question is irrelevant. 

Originally posted by Troneas

first there is the question if this is, in fact, a star wars mmo. 

 

after considering the obvious violations to the star wars principles, concept and ideals

Knock it off. If you can live with jedi flaunting their sabers during the era of "The Empire Strikes Back,"  then you can live with "Huttball" during the The Old Republic Era. I know it burns your bacon that this game isn't SWG2, but enough with the hypocrisy.

 

 

If you hate MMO:s, buy and support Swtor.

Originally posted by Dahlifyr

If you hate MMO:s, buy and support Swtor.

Why?

It seems to be employing the most generic MMO tricks in the book.

The only draw to me was that it would be like a BioWare RPG but one that didn't have an end as far as my character is concerned. And the Star Wars IP.

Every thing besides these 2 features (and even they are not original - the companion part of it is like every Bioware RPG) is very typical.

Originally posted by empyros

Originally posted by Dahlifyr

If you hate MMO:s, buy and support Swtor.

Why?

It seems to be employing the most generic MMO tricks in the book.

The only draw to me was that it would be like a BioWare RPG but one that didn't have an end as far as my character is concerned. And the Star Wars IP.

Every thing besides these 2 features (and even they are not original - the companion part of it is like every Bioware RPG) is very typical.

It might be typical for single player RPGS but not for MMORPG. The only other MMO i remember to use companion system is FFXI but even in that game companion system is not that fleshed out. Which MMORPG you last played in which companions could influence your crafting? i could give you laundry list of what else is not typical in SWTOR but i have done it too many times. All info is in sticky on front page if one is interested in learning bit more about the game.

Originally posted by zimboy69

Hi

Ive been looking at a new mmo for sometime , but im not really into stawars. When i look at the  info on it i cant really see anything  making me  want to play it,as  far i see so far its only   the bog standard mmo  in starwars clothes .

If your not into the lore then what will it offer the general player  who wants to have fun.

What do you mean why?

Wait until the open beta or free trial and check it and the rest of the games out, buy the one you enjoy most just like the rest of us.

That you don't like the setting is a minus but it still wont cost you anything to try it out.

As for what fun TOR offers it's players it is mostly the same as most MMOs but with more story, full voice acting and a surprisingly large world from launch.

I think there is enough information for you decide whether or not you want to purchase the game.  If there isn't, then its probably not for you.  Wait for a free trial then try that.

Originally posted by Supersoups

It might be typical for single player RPGS but not for MMORPG.

Okay, sure, if you think that will be revolutionary, continue to do so. I think it's a great take on the MMO genre (always wished games like Dragon Age could "go on"). But I can definitely see it getting stale, and FAST. That's the problem with MMOs - things get old, especially if you do it again and again. The more developer-driven the game is, the more such a problem worsens.

i could give you laundry list of what else is not typical in SWTOR but i have done it too many times.

By your choice. Don't get all huffy with me because you're mad about something. It's called displaced anger and it's unwarranted.

All info is in sticky on front page if one is interested in learning bit more about the game.

See above. (The passive aggressive tone also gets old, and fast, btw.)

I'll conclude by saying a lot of what has been said is nothing more than marketing fluff. And I am wise enough to see through it. Am I implying it will be a bad game? No, I am simply saying there is nothing revolutionary about it. If one is not a hardcore SW fan, they will probably not have much to adore about this game aside from the first couple of months, and they will return to their established MMO.

Originally posted by empyros

Originally posted by Supersoups

 

Okay, sure, if you think that will be revolutionary, continue to do so. I think it's a great take on the MMO genre (always wished games like Dragon Age could "go on"). But I can definitely see it getting stale, and FAST. That's the problem with MMOs - things get old, especially if you do it again and again. The more developer-driven the game is, the more such a problem worsens.

yes i will continue to think it is revolutionary because for MMORPG this system is quite new. Tell me one feature in MMO which doesn't get stale orr repetitive? every thing you do in MMO is repeated in some manner. If i start worrying about things getting old and repetitve there is not one MMO worth playing.

By your choice. Don't get all huffy with me because you're mad about something. It's called displaced anger and it's unwarranted.

I am sorry but where did you see my displaced anger? all i did was point to you the feature list and yes everyone one should  read it once so that people don't base their opinions on wrong information.

See above. (The passive aggressive tone also gets old, and fast, btw.)

I'll conclude by saying a lot of what has been said is nothing more than marketing fluff. And I am wise enough to see through it. Am I implying it will be a bad game? No, I am simply saying there is nothing revolutionary about it. If one is not a hardcore SW fan, they will probably not have much to adore about this game aside from the first couple of months, and they will return to their established MMO.

Funny because i am not even a hardcore SW fan, i am more of a Mass Effect fan. And yet in my opinion you are completely wrong. And regarding what will happen to SWTOR after couple of months and how many players will leave...well my crystal ball is gone for polish so i will comment on that later.

Originally posted by Jimmac

SWTOR will be the mmorpg equivalent of a Michael Bay movie, so if you buy SWTOR, you should be buying it for the same reasons you would go see a Transformers movie.

haha. This made me laugh.  I hope it's not true though.

I am serious 

and i am really intrested in what swtor was all about i went to the starwars old republic web site i looked around and didnt see anything that made me want to buy it

ive been to youtube looking at ingame footage

and still didnt see anything

so thinking id missed somthing i cam here to ask

i didnt mention anything about guildwars in my opening post but i admit i will be purchasing guildwars on day one  as i did see info in that which got me excited

the biggest problem im having with starwars is when i take the lore out of the game and the starwars clothes off the people  there appears not very much else in it  for me

currently i wont be purchasing it

but i will keep my eye on it incase somthing else comes along to show me what all the fuss is about

Originally posted by arieste

Originally posted by zimboy69

Hi

Ive been looking at a new mmo for sometime , but im not really into stawars. When i look at the  info on it i cant really see anything  making me  want to play it,as  far i see so far its only   the bog standard mmo  in starwars clothes .

If your not into the lore then what will it offer the general player  who wants to have fun.

Honestly, if you're not into lore or star wars, you probably won't enjoy this game.

 

It has most of hte features of similar MMOs (like WoW), however, the biggest selling point for this game is the storyline, which is all about star wars lore and setting.  if you're something that isn't going to enjoy that aspect, you're probably better off with a different game.

 

This isn't a flame, just honest advice.  

 

thanks  this is what i am looking for as i am wondering what  it has to offer me  and if its just the lore then it probably isnt the game for me

 

Hmmm.... Let me ask you this: What are your choices? Which titles do you exactly mean by "other"?

If you list what you like or are looking for in a game, you'd get a better response here.

"why should i buy starwars mmo and not any other" is hard for anyone to attempt to answer for you without some knowledge on what you're seeking.

Buy it and any the "other" games to?

Originally posted by zimboy69

Hi

Ive been looking at a new mmo for sometime , but im not really into stawars. When i look at the  info on it i cant really see anything  making me  want to play it,as  far i see so far its only   the bog standard mmo  in starwars clothes .

If your not into the lore then what will it offer the general player  who wants to have fun.

If you aren't willing to wait for a free trial, then maybe try and get hold of a cheap copy of one of the kotor game and see what you think of that and imagine what it'll be like mixed with(as you put it) the bog standard mmo

Originally posted by zimboy69

I am serious 

and i am really intrested in what swtor was all about i went to the starwars old republic web site i looked around and didnt see anything that made me want to buy it

 

currently i wont be purchasing it

but i will keep my eye on it incase somthing else comes along to show me what all the fuss is about

It all depends upon what you're looking for:

- are you still able to enjoy themepark MMO's? If not, and if you've grown sick or averse of themepark MMO's, chances are very high that you won't enjoy SWTOR

- do you still enjoy themepark MMO's? Then you could be in luck with SWTOR, because SWTOR is shaping up to be one of the largest if not the largest and most impressive themepark MMO around in several ways

- it's by Bioware, so it'll have that BW touch. If you like BW games and liked KOTOR, you'll recognise elements of that in SWTOR.

- it's Star Wars and scifi, to those that like SW or have grown weary of the fantasy theme, SWTOR can appeal

- Its worlds are huge. One normal planet alone is already close to the size of Rift's entire world or an Outland or Northrend, and SWTOR will have 13 normal planets, 4 smaller starter worlds and (presumably) an unidentified number of smaller moons/space stations/asteroids. But with the normal planets and Origin Planets alone, SWTOR will very likely be one of the MMO's with the biggest total worldsize around, certainly among the themepark MMO's, and it's not barren, empty or procedurally generated but handcrafted and in the style of themepark MMO's, content filled.

- SWTOR has bucketloads of questing content, and with the different Class Quest storylines and braching decisionbased questing it'll be vastly more appealing to fans of leveling alt characters than other MMO's.

- with the Crew Skills, SWTOR will have a crafting experience that looks to be deeper, more complex and different from the crafting seen in most other (themepark) MMO's

- SWTOR's endgame experience will be different than what's usually seen, with its multibranching dungeons that'll have puzzles, Crew Skills linked quests, and different paths based upon decisions players make, with its e-sports type of PvP arena like Huttball, and its stragic objective based PvP warfare, where players can conquer and destroy turrets and bases.

Those were a number of the things I could think of. If that's not your thing or you  don't like themepark MMO gameplay that much anymore, well, that's up to you of course.

Originally posted by zimboy69

Originally posted by arieste

It has most of hte features of similar MMOs (like WoW), however, the biggest selling point for this game is the storyline, which is all about star wars lore and setting.  if you're something that isn't going to enjoy that aspect, you're probably better off with a different game.

 This isn't a flame, just honest advice.  

 

thanks  this is what i am looking for as i am wondering what  it has to offer me  and if its just the lore then it probably isnt the game for me

I happen to disagree, basically because of the obvious following: if you ask someone to name what's great or appealing of an MMO that he himself doesn't intend to play or about which he's indifferent or 'meh', then of course you'll get an answer like 'it has only the storyline and it's SW that is appealing, nothing else'.

I mean, if that person could name more things he was excited and enthusiastic about an MMO, then he wouldn't feel 'meh' about the game, right? What use is it to ask someone what's the appeal about a MW2 or The Witcher 2 if he himself would dislike those games or only be lukewarm or indifferent about those games? You won't get to hear what'd be appealing about those games from those people who don't really like or care about these games in the first place