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  svann

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Posts: 1197

8/24/11 6:38:00 PM#401

I dont think it lore breaking at all that there exists a game in the Star Wars universe that was not noted in the books.  What is lore breaking is that jedi and sith can play on the same side in huttball but nowhere else in SWTOR.  A mmo universe should be self consistent.

  gaou

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8/24/11 6:45:01 PM#402
Originally posted by svann

I dont think it lore breaking at all that there exists a game in the Star Wars universe that was not noted in the books.  What is lore breaking is that jedi and sith can play on the same side in huttball but nowhere else in SWTOR.  A mmo universe should be self consistent.

actually its been clarifyed that jedi and sith can not be on the same team.  they just meant it can be empire vs empire or republic vs republic in addition to standard republic vs empire

 

GeorgZoeller General Discussion -> empire and republic players teamed up together for huttball confirmed

I have to 'unconfirm' this confirmation, it is inaccurate, maybe a translation or transcription error as well.

While at some point we had faction mixed teams during testing, the design for the game currently does not involve players of different factions mixing in the same team.

It is however possible for two teams of the same faction to meet each other in The Pit.

  Gardavsshade

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Joined: 6/27/11
Posts: 325

8/24/11 6:59:30 PM#403
Originally posted by Thornrage
Originally posted by sonoggi

i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.

how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?

It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.

So many take these MMOs way too seriously.

 

MMOs are not just g a m e s...

MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games. MMOs are supposed to be more serious than "just a game".

so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.

You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->

 

Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.


Nothing to see here... just another MMO Ghost....

  Sovrath

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8/24/11 7:04:41 PM#404
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by Thornrage
Originally posted by sonoggi

i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.

how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?

It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.

So many take these MMOs way too seriously.

 

MMOs are not just g a m e s...

MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.

so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.

You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way----------------------->

 

Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.

Well, I think mmo's can be anything the developers want them to be.

Like everything they don't have to just be one thing.

Some might be more like games and some might be more like worlds.

As far as Huttball, well "one's mileage may vary".

 

I recently spoke to someone who played it and thought it was fun. He would't go into any detail (nor did I press him) because he's under nda. but he did say he found it fun. That was pretty much it.

sooooo some players will hate it and some will like it. As it should be.

  PaybackXero

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/22/09
Posts: 34

8/24/11 7:04:47 PM#405
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by Thornrage
Originally posted by sonoggi

i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.

how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?

It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.

So many take these MMOs way too seriously.

 

MMOs are not just g a m e s...

MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.

so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.

You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->

 

Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.

Sorry, you don't get to decide what MMOs are or are not. I personally don't give a damn about the virtual reality at all. And appearantly, SWTOR is thinking most gamers don't either - and I'm glad.

  Gardavsshade

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/27/11
Posts: 325

8/24/11 7:06:18 PM#406
Originally posted by PaybackXero
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by Thornrage
Originally posted by sonoggi

i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.

how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?

It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.

So many take these MMOs way too seriously.

 

MMOs are not just g a m e s...

MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.

so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.

You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->

 

Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.

Sorry, you don't get to decide what MMOs are or are not. I personally don't give a damn about the virtual reality at all. And appearantly, SWTOR is thinking most gamers don't either - and I'm glad.

Sorry, but you have even less to say about it than the old timers do.


Nothing to see here... just another MMO Ghost....

  Tazlor

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/24/10
Posts: 865

8/24/11 7:10:42 PM#407

It's funny how so many people wonder why they can't seem to find that game to hook them back in to the mmorpg genre. I'm sorry, but with your nit-picking you will never find a mmo to play. You're acting like a child.

  Tazlor

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/24/10
Posts: 865

8/24/11 7:18:04 PM#408
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by PaybackXero
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by Thornrage
Originally posted by sonoggi

i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.

how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?

It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.

So many take these MMOs way too seriously.

 

MMOs are not just g a m e s...

MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.

so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.

You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->

 

Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.

Sorry, you don't get to decide what MMOs are or are not. I personally don't give a damn about the virtual reality at all. And appearantly, SWTOR is thinking most gamers don't either - and I'm glad.

Sorry, but you have even less to say about it than the old timers do.

Actually they are JUST games. I think that's the biggest problem with the genre, so many players can't realise that simple fact. they are meant to entertain, they aren't meant to provide you with your little fantasy reality world. There is nothing real about them. They're set in a fake, made up world, so how can you even bring "reality" into the conversation?

  svann

Novice Member

Joined: 12/06/06
Posts: 1197

8/24/11 7:31:35 PM#409

Just because something wasnt in the books doesnt mean it didnt happen.  I think its a given that lots of stuff was going on that was not 'documented'.  As long as huttball does not actually conflict with the story or the mmo world then its just fine.  And I dont think it does.  Any real person living in the star wars world would have recreational time and its not unlikely they would play games.  Do you know any person in the real world that does not have out of work time to blow off steam?  Even nazi germany took time to play at the olympics.

  Gardavsshade

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/27/11
Posts: 325

8/24/11 7:31:51 PM#410
Originally posted by Tazlor

It's funny how so many people wonder why they can't seem to find that game to hook them back in to the mmorpg genre. I'm sorry, but with your nit-picking you will never find a mmo to play. You're acting like a child.

Your right I am acting like a child... throwing a tantrum... because on the internet there is not much else I can do.

Is there?

I will apologise. I do my best to respect everyone's opinions, but some of  the readers here have opinions about MMOs that I find as "fighting words" so to speak.

I care about this genre (MMOs) and I am upset when people show up and try to tell me what I can and cannot say... yet  they can say anything they want and it's OK just because they are young and are "following the trend".

Screw the trend. A few of us enjoy MMOs as they were and we still enjoy MMOs. I still play MMOs (3 of them actually).

That's why people like me get so upset when someone says they have a better difinition of what a MMO should be and about how a MMO is supposed to be designed... who says they get to rewrite the definition? I didn't write the definition for pete's sake (none of us did and that's why we argue about it now), but there was a kind of general consesus through the years and I am recalling what was told me in guild chat and in world chat by players of quite a few MMOs over the years. Trust me MMO players discussed what MMOs were and what they weren't a zillion times through the years.

Now just because some young people start playing and want to change MMOs it's OK?

Just because they don't like MMOs as they are they think its ok to call for MMOs to be redesigned to suit them?

No it isn't "OK". Not to me it isn't.

If someone changed Football every few months the fans would revolt (both Footballs).

When in a few years time MMOs are pressured to change again and change into something the players NOW would object to, then the young players calling for change now will then understand how I and others feel about all this.


Nothing to see here... just another MMO Ghost....

  sonoggi

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Joined: 12/22/09
Posts: 1151

 
8/24/11 7:46:25 PM#411

Originally posted by Thornrage
Originally posted by sonoggi

i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.

how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?

It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.

So many take these MMOs way too seriously.

 

it's not a game once when someone invests 100mill into it. it's more like...a simulacrum, or business, a means of controlling the masses, etc. in other words, with that kind of money, there's an agenda behind it. if that agenda is "creating a deeply immersive sci fi world" or something, then TOR fails.

  Gardavsshade

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/27/11
Posts: 325

8/24/11 7:47:18 PM#412
Originally posted by Tazlor
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by PaybackXero
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by Thornrage
Originally posted by sonoggi

i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.

how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?

It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.

So many take these MMOs way too seriously.

 

MMOs are not just g a m e s...

MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.

so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.

You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->

 

Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.

Sorry, you don't get to decide what MMOs are or are not. I personally don't give a damn about the virtual reality at all. And appearantly, SWTOR is thinking most gamers don't either - and I'm glad.

Sorry, but you have even less to say about it than the old timers do.

Actually they are JUST games. I think that's the biggest problem with the genre, so many players can't realise that simple fact. they are meant to entertain, they aren't meant to provide you with your little fantasy reality world. There is nothing real about them. They're set in a fake, made up world, so how can you even bring "reality" into the conversation?

I respectfully disagree with you. Your understanding of what a MMO is and is not... is far different than my own point of view.

We will never agree.

I apologise if I offended you in my disagreement to your point of view.


Nothing to see here... just another MMO Ghost....

  darkrain21

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Joined: 7/06/10
Posts: 190

8/24/11 7:48:41 PM#413

this post is pretty dumb, for the OP if you want jedi and sith have always partook in sport, whether that be Pod racing, or duels for money. The idea behind huttball is to show the true power that the hutts had beack in the old republic days. And for the people nit picking, if you think about it, the mmo you are bashing on so hard is only bad because you make it so, maybe try going into it with an open mind and who knows you just might like it.

  gr6i6m6reape

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8/24/11 7:52:43 PM#414
Originally posted by darkrain21

this post is pretty dumb, for the OP if you want jedi and sith have always partook in sport, whether that be Pod racing, or duels for money. The idea behind huttball is to show the true power that the hutts had beack in the old republic days. And for the people nit picking, if you think about it, the mmo you are bashing on so hard is only bad because you make it so, maybe try going into it with an open mind and who knows you just might like it.

I second this.

 

Completely agreed...

Syrool Xfire Miniprofile
  rashhero

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8/24/11 7:54:14 PM#415

I can't beleive how many people are actually off put from the entire game for one warzone. It's petty.

  xxxxxx1

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Joined: 7/26/06
Posts: 24

8/24/11 9:09:38 PM#416

Huttball is one of Jar Jar Binks' favorite pastimes! Yes, I'm deeply offended by it.

  Lateris

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~perspective~

8/24/11 9:20:13 PM#417

I am not offended at all. In fact I think some funny names can be achieved that are Epic! :)

  AlienShirt

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Posts: 613

8/24/11 9:24:22 PM#418
Originally posted by Metentso

One more absurd feature. Who cares anymore.

I agree. Huttball is almost as absurd as the 2-headed Pod Racing announcer that was in Episode 1. The announcer was more annoying to me than Jar Jar was.

  SlothnChunk

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Joined: 4/17/11
Posts: 391

8/24/11 9:25:58 PM#419

Dumbest thing added to an MMO I've seen in a while. Bioware seems desperate to add content.

Why they worked on this instead of non-on rails space travel is beyond me.

  User Deleted
8/24/11 9:32:28 PM#420
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by Tazlor
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by PaybackXero
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by Thornrage
Originally posted by sonoggi

i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.

how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?

It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.

So many take these MMOs way too seriously.

 

MMOs are not just g a m e s...

MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.

so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.

You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->

 

Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.

Sorry, you don't get to decide what MMOs are or are not. I personally don't give a damn about the virtual reality at all. And appearantly, SWTOR is thinking most gamers don't either - and I'm glad.

Sorry, but you have even less to say about it than the old timers do.

Actually they are JUST games. I think that's the biggest problem with the genre, so many players can't realise that simple fact. they are meant to entertain, they aren't meant to provide you with your little fantasy reality world. There is nothing real about them. They're set in a fake, made up world, so how can you even bring "reality" into the conversation?

I respectfully disagree with you. Your understanding of what a MMO is and is not... is far different than my own point of view.

We will never agree.

I apologise if I offended you in my disagreement to your point of view.

Virtual Reality or not there is not one thing that will effect your gameplay if you so choose to or not. Huttball is not mandatory.

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