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  blueturtle13

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8/23/11 9:22:26 AM#21
Originally posted by phantiasmic

Not a bad list I think. Only points I would add my 2 cents on are.


Rift is not really that "dynamic" been playing since launch and when "dynamic" events happen like say a rift opens and invasion comes out and takes over a spot... 10-15 min later the enemies disappear and everything is back to normal.. that just doesn't feel dynamic to me. And the game world is TINY! (I still think Rift has been successful though)


In GW2 if enemies take over a spot, it will remain taken over for months if players don't take it back... THAT is dynamic.


My prediction is it will be GW2 + meaning since GW2 charges no subscription to play many people will be doing GW2 + another mmo they pay for. I think that is a good combination.


My wife and I plan on doing GW2 + TSW

 if tsw is good anyway lol noone knows yet if it will be lets hope so    'Dynamic' comes in many flavors and degrees. Rifts and invasions popping up randomly at random times is dynamic just that GW2 is taking it to another level. I agree GW2 will be a huge hit...like I said earlier though I worry about the community. I thought the community in the GW1 was pretty bad. =/

  Ozmodan

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8/23/11 9:38:40 AM#22

Well I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that TERA is going to be a short lived success at best.  They have already had a major contraction of the servers in the eastern version, mainly because of lack of content.  

I do like their combat design, but will have to wait and see if that is enough to keep this game interesting.  

  BadSpock2

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8/23/11 9:42:31 AM#23
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Well I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that TERA is going to be a short lived success at best.  They have already had a major contraction of the servers in the eastern version, mainly because of lack of content.  

I do like their combat design, but will have to wait and see if that is enough to keep this game interesting.  

Guild Wars 2 is going to be "action" enough combat to completely kill anything Tera has going for it.

Considering the combat is the only thing Tera has going for it, unless it releases in the west before GW2, it will never catch on - and even if it does the GW2 release will kill it in the west.

if it doesn't release before GW2 no one will pay any attention to it.

Just reading about the issues they have had/are having with it in the East, no chance that game will be top 10 in 2012.

  Morcotulcon

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8/23/11 9:58:18 AM#24

Originally posted by Sephastus



Basing the top 10 list on current hype... not good imo. For all the talk and hype, I don't believe GW2 or SWTOR will come even close to the hype they have generated. GW2 is doing a great job at teasing people, specially since this would be the main way for it to make money... after all, just buy it once and you own and play it forever right? Just make people curious enough and they will buy anything. Less than 6 months after release, and you can quote me on this, it will have lost well over half its population.




SWTOR... nothing can really make the world people have in their heads come to life, and this will be the fall of this IP: Too much expectations from the player base.




My order for the list would be more like this: 1) WoW, 2) GW2 (Just because of initial sales), SWTOR, 4) Rift, 5) EvE and the rest. Not hating, just being a realist (in as much as assumptions can be called realist.)



 

I'm sorry, but did you just said that GW2 is all talk and hype, atlhough hundreds (or more) have already tried all the demos showed at conventions, proved all the things to be true and better than most released games have been for years? Did you just said that the game will probably lose half of it's population after 6 months even though the game will be free forever after it got bought and it will probably have some-sort -of-expansions 6 months after release?


About SWTOR, your predictions are the same as most people so I agree with you there too.


 


About the List, I agree with most of the choices (IMO, Aion shouldn't be in there). And I do agree that WoW is dying really fast. Most of my friends (both irl and online ones) that were completelly adicted to the game are now inactive (not completelly inactive, because they still pay the subs and go there like 3 times a week, if lucky), and it's not because of their real life situation (work, family, whatever), they just got sick and tired of it and are now playing other games (League Of Legends for most of them).  So, WoW in 3rd is a close reality!


  Lasterba

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8/23/11 10:00:21 AM#25
It's sad that shallow games like RIft have success due to the over population of "silver platter" gamers, while TRUE MMOs like Vanguard teeter on the brink of shut down.

This list is a testament to the utter destruction of a once great genre.
  marquisk2

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8/23/11 10:02:13 AM#26

well not onl the expectations they have for SWTOR but also the massive amounts of whining that already started on the forums when the game isn't even released yet!  SWTOR will be a miss due to whining!


  dbstylin34

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8/23/11 10:02:37 AM#27
Originally posted by Lasterba
in my opinion games like RIft have success due to the over population of "silver platter" gamers, while TRUE MMOs like Vanguard teeter on the brink of shut down.

This list is a testament to the utter destruction of a once great genre.

/fixed

  User Deleted
8/23/11 10:25:18 AM#28

First WoW should not be in there sorry I can not buy your reason on this. If anything WoW will be drop a peg or two as the number one MMO. Also AOC, Aion, lotro, EVE and Rift are all maybes but come on these games had there say and seem to peek out if you mean because of so little choices for 2012 then yes I agree. Now for the top 3 I think it will go like this:

1 TOR - Why because This game has done what the movie has accomplished and that captured the imagination of gamers by the millions.

2 GW2 - Its hard to count this one out and that it is why it is second its biggest draw back is its to close to being like WoW that is the reason for the falling of Rift and AOC and lotro in 2012 fantasy games will slide in popularity mark my words.

3 SW - I think will hold its own for the first year just because but because of lack of skill etc it will not stay in the top 3 for long.

Tera I left out for a reason the verdict is still out on this one.

  Bunnyking

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8/23/11 10:36:39 AM#29

GW2 will be a disappointment. I'm just sayin'.


 

  Alot

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8/23/11 10:37:49 AM#30
Originally posted by Bunnyking

GW2 will be a disappointment. I'm just sayin'.


 

And you base this on what, exactly?

  cinos

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8/23/11 10:39:13 AM#31
Originally posted by Bunnyking

GW2 will be a disappointment. I'm just sayin'.


 

Well I've actually played it and can honestly say it's as good as Arenanet and everyone else who has played it has said...and it's only in Alpha.

I'm just sayin'. :p

  Bunnyking

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8/23/11 10:39:46 AM#32
Originally posted by Alot
Originally posted by Bunnyking

GW2 will be a disappointment. I'm just sayin'.


 

And you base this on what, exactly?

 On my opinion of the game so far. :)

Oh and furthermore... If EA plays their cards right with promoting and distributing, TSW can be bigger than GW2.

  BadSpock2

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Logic be damned.

8/23/11 10:39:50 AM#33
Originally posted by Lasterba
It's sad that shallow games like RIft have success due to the over population of "silver platter" gamers, while TRUE MMOs like Vanguard teeter on the brink of shut down.

This list is a testament to the utter destruction of a once great genre.

Oh you mean that game that released completely unplayble for most?

Doesn't matter how "good" it is now, if you release a game as garbage, forever will players associate it with garbage.

 

Rift released very successfully, as such, they are still successful.

It's simple really.

  BadSpock2

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Logic be damned.

8/23/11 10:40:58 AM#34
Originally posted by Bunnyking

Oh and furthermore... If EA plays their cards right with promoting and distributing, TSW can be bigger than GW2.

The Secret World is Funcom...

  Bunnyking

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8/23/11 10:41:58 AM#35
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Bunnyking

Oh and furthermore... If EA plays their cards right with promoting and distributing, TSW can be bigger than GW2.

The Secret World is Funcom...

 Published and distributed by EA Partners.   ...

  BadSpock2

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Logic be damned.

8/23/11 10:43:53 AM#36
Originally posted by Bunnyking
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Bunnyking

Oh and furthermore... If EA plays their cards right with promoting and distributing, TSW can be bigger than GW2.

The Secret World is Funcom...

 Published and distributed by EA Partners.   ...

Ah very true. I guess I just found it odd EA would be distributing/publishing two major MMOs concurrently.

Apparently they (EA) want a bit of both sides of the coin as I imagine there won't be much similarity between TSW and TOR.

  cinos

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8/23/11 10:44:59 AM#37
Originally posted by Bunnyking
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Bunnyking

Oh and furthermore... If EA plays their cards right with promoting and distributing, TSW can be bigger than GW2.

The Secret World is Funcom...

 Published and distributed by EA Partners.   ...

...but still made by Funcom. :p

I suppose they are due to actually have a good game at release though. First time for everything after all. :)

  Bunnyking

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8/23/11 10:46:17 AM#38
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Bunnyking
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Bunnyking

Oh and furthermore... If EA plays their cards right with promoting and distributing, TSW can be bigger than GW2.

The Secret World is Funcom...

 Published and distributed by EA Partners.   ...

Ah very true. I guess I just found it odd EA would be distributing/publishing two major MMOs concurrently.

Apparently they (EA) want a bit of both sides of the coin as I imagine there won't be much similarity between TSW and TOR.

 Seems so.

Although both games are pretty heavy story-driven and VO'd. The comparison pretty much stops there.

Tbh, I'm having a hard time deciding which of the 2 games I will be playing 'permanently'. I'll have around 5 months to try SWTOR and then TSW will be released... I'll have to make my mind up by then.

  erictlewis

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8/23/11 10:55:16 AM#39

I am not sure why lotro is on that list.  Even with the xpac, that is being met with a lot of negative fealins over at the official lotro forums, they are done.


They will always have that follow that plays it for the lore of lotro, and not for game mechanics. Those who are tired of booring combat will move on.


  tswthoradin

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8/23/11 11:00:08 AM#40

I don't get why everyone hate's rift so much. Rift has a LOT of people playing it, it's polished and bug free. It also has a whole lot of customization on your charecter. There are multiple ways to level, not just questing. All these people hate Rift for some reason and it makes no sense to me. If you don't like Rift well that's fine. But claiming it's horrible or a "silver platter" game makes no sense to me. The people who want to get to 50 easy will get there, but they won't be doing any of the high end raid's. And when GW2 or TOR comes out it won't be easy to hit max level?


They aren't going to make GW2 or TOR impossible to play because they want casual players in it. I have heard so much speculation over GW2 and TOR that I honestly would be shocked if they didn't cure cancer and solve world hunger when they are released. So many people are trashing what's out there based on what they expect these new games to be. I have heard the term WoW killer now at least three times a year for at least the last 8 years. If you want to play a game play it, if you don't like a game, well thats fine and dandy too, but comming on a message board bashing it because you didn't care for it is (well i can't think of a pc word here). 


Rift is a good game, everyone I know who plays it likes it, will it loose subs to the new games? Absolutely, but just because people shift to the new games doesn't mean Rift is a turd. And while i don't like WoW, it is a good game obviously or it wouldn't have made so much money, but I imagine it will loose money too. I do like this list. I think the author made some good predictions. 


Oh and for all the people complaining about vangaurd, I liked vanguard too, but blame SOE. They ruined that game, don't blame Rift for 'ruining the genre' when vanguard was failing at launch. Obviously if Vangaurd was what people wanted it would be in WoW's place now. The fact that is barely staying afloat say's more about what the market want's and where the market want's the genre's direction to be, then a few 'hardcore' players with a chip on their shoulder.


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