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  Alucardlb

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Joined: 4/20/11
Posts: 88

8/06/11 2:40:57 PM#81

i honestly had no interest in playing Diablo 3 but when i heard this i was all for it and im not going to be waiting for this game more so than anything i can remember from the past few years, for someone who has alot of free time to play video games, this is going to be wonderful being able to make some cash from sitting on my ass selling stuff to lazy people, i did it in wow and im going to do it here now only not be worried about my account being closed

  baritone3k

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8/06/11 2:44:04 PM#82
Originally posted by Bastyani

I quit Lineage 2 for the very same reason. Farmers simply camped and owned places where best items (and most expensive) dropped so they could sell them on Ebay.


What will prevent farmers now to camp places like that to collect all the best items and sell them regulary (this time) on market. And believe me, there is no guild that can fight off these farmers as I'm talking about 100+ organised people who work for their *BOSS* in some shady place.


People will buy the game. Firstly because it Blizzard and secondly because its probably good.


But once  realising they cant get items they want simply because of farmers, unless they say hello to the little thing called Mastercard or Visa. Rage quit is inevitable.


Blizzard, wake up! You are going the wrong way! Billions aren't good enough for you? You want trillions?

This isn't an MMO. You each play in your own version. You can camp your own place and get the items as well.
 Their kills will not have any impact on you.

Someone please make a good MMO.

  kilun

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Joined: 12/25/07
Posts: 692

8/06/11 2:46:55 PM#83
Originally posted by Kreedz

This is what happens when big developers let their ego's get the best of them, they assume all of their games will simply sell if it has their name on it, nevermind if the gameplay is utter crap or that its a constant battle of balance with the games abilities and functions, They could slap their logo on a paper bag full of shyte and people would still buy it.


 


This is a cash grab, no matter what spin they try to put on it, theyre basically accepting the 'gold buying' trend, repackaging it and making it a 'legal' form of it.


 


There are plenty of other games out there and I think its high time people to stand up for their principals, reject this game and find their fun in other games, perhaps in the indie market where developers havnt sold their souls yet.


 


But alas, people are like sheep and they will still buy it because they dont want to be left out the experience if the game is a hit just because 'everyone' else is playing it.


 


At least I will have the satisfaction of knowing I'm not part of the idiot crowd.

 Again, how are people like sheep?  This was going on to begin with.  Diablo is a single player game with a multiplayer option.  You can do the WHOLE GAME solo.  There are ZERO parts that require interacting with other people.  All more players do is increase the difficulty of the game and hopefully that at least allow you to adjust the difficulty based on players like you can do with /players command in D2 offline currently to increase experience, difficulty and item drops.

What are they doing with this real cash auction house that is harming you personally while you play?  Seriously I would love to read a logical and well thought out explaination from someone who is opposed to this and their idea of dealing with the 3rd party sites that is better than what they decided that will keep the spirit of Diablo's game play.  Please if someone has a better way to go about this other than allow every player to make a few bucks finding a rare item let us know.

As for another game?  I'd love to know which, Diablo series has been out 15 years now and not one game has came even close to offering any kind of competition.  Dungeon Siege one with microsoft offered the only other lobby base system with its release and it was a total failure of drastic nature(I still like that game though, II not at all)  I still play Diablo II.  I haven't quit and its the first game I pickup when I stop playing an MMO.

  Faelan

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Joined: 11/13/04
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Oops - looks like I'm an internet dog who somehow learned how to type. What has the world come to?

8/06/11 2:49:29 PM#84

Originally posted by Eliandal



Originally posted by Faelan


Well, that's one game I don't have to worry about spending my money on. Thankfully, I was never really all that interested in D3 to begin with, so not a huge loss for me. I am however a little concerned about other companies seeing this as some sort of green light for implementing their own version of this diabolic milking scheme.



 


  As was posted earlier, this is in no way something new.  Yell at Sony (as the first real major player) for starting this off.



 


I believe you're refering to EQ2 with those special servers that almost nobody knows about or remembers anymore? I'm quite aware of that, but there's a huge difference between SoE doing something and Blizzard doing something. SoE is like Canada... nobody listens to them or take them serious.


I'm a big ol' fluffy carewolf. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

  User Deleted
8/06/11 2:50:17 PM#85
Originally posted by Zeppelin4

I don't care one way or the other. Nothing changes for me.  I log in, create my private server to play solo or with with my friends and or family. If I get lucky on a rare drop that I or my friends or family don't need I could make some cash off it. Win win in my books. The rest I can sell on the normal AH another win win. 

 

I really don't understand many of these posts. You can still play Diablo 3 the same way you played Diablo 2 other then you need to be connected to bnet at all times. 

This exactly.

I really am confused by some of the responses, they either don't factor in the fact that Blizz said not all transactions will be charged a fee for posting, or the fact that Diablo is not a MMO with thousands of people standing around showing off their gear in Stormwind.

It is a player to player market, not a company to player market...

  crazynanny

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Joined: 9/03/10
Posts: 175

8/06/11 3:03:43 PM#86
I'd understand peeps being naive and raging over forums, but mmorpg.com joining them? Oh well never had big expectations anyways. Some things You missed in article or stated plain wrong. Here's my list for that and come comments below:

1. Blizz will give some free listings weekly so casual sellers don't have to pay a dime for selling items.
2. Expecting Blizz to maintain huge chunk of multiplayer servers, staff for them, staff for support hacked people, GMs for banning RMT/farmers and players and all that for one time box sale with no monthly fee was ubernaive.
3. This is not an MMO, but a lobby game. Anyone but hardcore PvP players won't be affected by RMAH if they don't want to. Those into PvP would have to deal with people who bought gear via websites like d2jsp, now they have legal alternative + ability to sell items.
4. No offline play is bad, but it hides a lot of code from hackers and that's one of major reasons to do it.
5. Anyone who seriously played diablo 2 know all those issues and is perfectly aware that everything is a result of blizz experience, rather than money grab.
  OSF8759

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Joined: 5/27/07
Posts: 294

8/06/11 3:21:16 PM#87

Gold farmers have an overhead to meet, so they have a certain floor below wich they cannot sell. The average player who is just looking to sell their stuff for whatever they can get has no such floor. They can sell for prices far lower than the farmers. Selling an item for even one penny is still pure profit. For the farmer, that means going out of business.


No, I don't think gold farmers like this idea at all. I think they prefer the closed systems they currently have, where the only competition is from other gold farmers, not average players who can sell their items for next to nothing.


Not having to go to some skanky gold selling site, but instead buying from a secure and convenient in-game location, no the gold farmers are not happy about this development at all I'd say.


  Ramonski7

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"A wise man has something to say, but a fool just has to say something."

8/06/11 3:34:43 PM#88

Wow I'm perplexed at how naive some mmo gamers really are?! This is a single player game that can be played online with up to (what) 4 people? This is no way/shape/form like a mmo where you're gonna bump into other players or farmers. Someone taking your spawn camp? Really now?!?

 

Also it seems people don't remember how wide spread selling D2 items on ebay was. I remember how foolish I thought people were who bought that stuff then and I still think it's foolish now. The only thing that is changing is now players have a legit place to do it without feeling like they could get ripped off. More power to them. You know how much this will effect me? Zippo! Because most of the time I will be playing exclusively with my friends. Just like I did with D1 and D2.

 

It's like getting mad because people give business to rent-a-centers or payday loan stores. Just because you won't go there doesn't mean there is not a demand for it. Hell who knows. I may even be able to make back my money spent on D3 if I get an exceptionally rare piece of loot. Then I can say I play entirely for free. Win-win in my book.


"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."

  HurricanePip

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Joined: 3/07/04
Posts: 169

8/06/11 3:36:21 PM#89

Yes.  If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.


I have to admit, I don't really want to play the game, but I wonder if it's worth botting for a little bit of extra cash.


If you don't worry about it, it's not a problem.

  Tokyojoe

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Joined: 7/30/11
Posts: 52

Never carry a knife to a gun fight.

8/06/11 3:46:15 PM#90

Don't quit your day job.

I may know the least here,but I am the loudest about what I do know.

  zymurgeist

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Joined: 12/24/04
Posts: 5212

8/06/11 3:56:49 PM#91
Originally posted by Tokyojoe

Don't quit your day job.

 I'd go along with this. The rare items in Diablo really were rare. It could take very long hours to get one of them. More likely most people will be selling mid level items for a pittance to people who want to twink starting toons.

"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  Major69er1

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Joined: 3/05/04
Posts: 72

8/06/11 3:57:08 PM#92

LOL this is what we all want a single player p2w game, I havent bought a Blizzard product since WoWs BC expansion and looks like it will be awhile before I buy another.I hope the fan boys enjoy getting out there wallets as if 60 bucks wasnt enough they will have to pay more.

  Chackz

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Posts: 89

8/06/11 4:02:05 PM#93

QQ kid. You can use the gold aution house noob!

  bestiacorpus

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Joined: 8/05/03
Posts: 117

8/06/11 4:05:40 PM#94

I was never a fan of competitive online diablo games.  I just play the single-player campaigns with hacks to speed up the process so I can skip the grind and go on smoothly with the STORY.  I pretty much don't care about difficulty levels because it's just mindless hack and slash grind. Equipment? If you've played video games with equipable items, you'd know 90% of the time the items drop are based on RANDOM NUMBER GENERATION. More grind to get an item---why??? t's not hardwork since you don't really assemble the parts and craft the item you want.  Flaunting your hundred of hours worth of grind work for pixelized flair? Better check your real world hard work and digital hard work values mind friends! A click is not a swing of a real blacksmith hammer pounding flaming steel on anvil.

That will change because of this new auction system.  After long years of (passing/wasting time) playing a video game, I can finally EARN REAL MONEY WHILE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME.  Earning $1in my opinion will always be better than $0.  My hobby funding some of my other hobby/vices? How great is that?!  I've sold powerleveled accounts before and now I can sell things within the terms and restrictions of the game---LEGALLY!  I can already see myself playing Diablo. Diablo paying for my cable monthly.

Blizzard Grabs for Cash? I call it genius.

  Elikal

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“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth

8/06/11 5:30:22 PM#95

It's just another proof how FAR away from the gamers reality companies and devs really are. They always play this "oh we are one of you" card, but in truth they are overpaid rich bonzos who are just as far from our everyday gamer reality as politicians from RL.

Bah. Not that I am a big Diablo fan, but opening a cash AH in a single player game... that's just outragerous.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  fundayz

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8/06/11 5:31:59 PM#96

Originally posted by Chackz



QQ kid. You can use the gold aution house noob!



 


Don't be naive, the prices on the Gold AH are going to be so inflated due to rampant gold selling that the average user is not going to be able to use it on a consistent basis, if at all.


  OkhamsRazor

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8/06/11 5:32:58 PM#97

I doubt I would have played Diablo 3 anyway because quite frankly I don't trust anything Blizzard do anymore . This really only just reinforces my view of the company . Credibility is worth money in real terms and Blizzard seam to be selling thiers for short term profit over long term game . There will be a day when we will say " remember how successful Blizzard used to be " and use thier example as a cautionary tale about how a once mighty developer can lose it all . I think the faliure or mediocre success of Diablo 3 and Ttian will take the shine of this company . Mark my words the bigger they are the harder they fall .


  Celestian

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8/06/11 5:37:22 PM#98

Won't bother buying the game.  They can promote hackers, credit card fraud and spammers all they like w/o me.

  Ramonski7

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8/06/11 5:47:03 PM#99
Originally posted by Elikal

It's just another proof how FAR away from the gamers reality companies and devs really are. They always play this "oh we are one of you" card, but in truth they are overpaid rich bonzos who are just as far from our everyday gamer reality as politicians from RL.

Bah. Not that I am a big Diablo fan, but opening a cash AH in a single player game... that's just shameful.

Reading is fun cause knowledge is power brah! The RM-AH is for hardcore Diablo 3 players. Not some average joe who casually plays and was fighting to convince himself to buy the game in the first place. D2 if you care to know is still played by some gamers and they enjoy it as you and I would enjoy any favorite game we still love to play. So when you talk about how out-of-touch Blizzard is toward everyday players then you are exactly what this system is not made for.

 

On top of that you admit that you're not even a big Diablo fan, which leads me to believe you know what the difference is between a regular fan and a BIG fan. To all the regular fans, this system will not change a thing as this is NOT a mmo.


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  Elikal

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8/06/11 5:53:14 PM#100
Originally posted by Ramonski7
Originally posted by Elikal

It's just another proof how FAR away from the gamers reality companies and devs really are. They always play this "oh we are one of you" card, but in truth they are overpaid rich bonzos who are just as far from our everyday gamer reality as politicians from RL.

Bah. Not that I am a big Diablo fan, but opening a cash AH in a single player game... that's just shameful.

Reading is fun cause knowledge is power brah! The RM-AH is for hardcore Diablo 3 players. Not some average joe who casually plays and was fighting to convince himself to buy the game in the first place. D2 if you care to know is still played by some gamers and they enjoy it as you and I would enjoy any favorite game we still love to play. So when you talk about how out-of-touch Blizzard is toward everyday players then you are exactly what this system is not made for.

 

On top of that you admit that you're not even a big Diablo fan, which leads me to believe you know what the difference is between a regular fan and a BIG fan. To all the regular fans, this system will not change a thing as this is NOT a mmo.

Don't you SEE that it's a plot!

ITS A TRAP!

No really. First the 25 dollar pony. Now the 150 dollar TOR CE and the 150 dollar Skyrim CE. AND now this. It all is the monetization of a hobby where once all were equal. Where RL income did not influence gameplay. They continually try to drive the profit margin up by milking out more money.

I say NO. Fight it where ever it arises. Fight in at the beaches, fight it in the forests, fight in on the mountains! It's salami tactics. Slide by slide the sausage is eaten. Bit by bit games are monetized.

No. It's bad for gamers.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

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