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  User Deleted
8/05/11 5:01:33 PM#21

"And so I think with Cataclysm they were able to consume the content faster than with previous expansions, but that's why we're working on developing more content."

so... let me see if I've got this straight. Outland released, gave us 10 new levels and probably averaged in the neighborhood of 4 to 5 hours per level in terms of time played through solo content. At the launch of Northrend, Outland content was given an xp increase but gaining the 10 levels of Northrend content also took around 4 to 5 hours per level. The new expansion, while featuring a massive graphics update (in response to those who said WoW needs a graphics update) gave us only 5 new levels of content. I got to 81 in about 2 hours. I got to 82 in about 4 hours just by doing Archeology in the old kingdoms. So the time to level to the new cap may have been (and someone who actually has a level 85 can correct me if I'm wrong) about 25% of what it took to level to cap in the previous expansions, but Blizzard is trying to sell the notion that their player base is just too good now?

 

Lame.

  tank017

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8/05/11 5:05:01 PM#22
Well seeing how the game is about 8 years old,the only thing I'm surprised about is that the loss isn't greater than it is.

They're still raking it in
  Jimmy562

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8/05/11 5:09:54 PM#23
Originally posted by darlok6666
Originally posted by LauZaIM

Too bad only 5 mil or so are actual monthly subscribers. That means it's 4.1 mil now. Soon to be less when TOR launches.

 If your gonna post totla garbage like that then post facts to back yourself and not look like a complete idiot.  4.1 mill?  Yeah whatever, that doesn't even cover NA and EU subs, then there's all the other contries, Asia, Auastalia, South America... 4.1 mill subs my ass.

He's right. Only western players play per month. Asia pays per hour or something.

  User Deleted
8/05/11 5:10:18 PM#24

Originally posted by drbaltazar



blizzard can turn this around easy :just balance server so that rage of fire daily are balanced (while staying like it is now)and they ll get million of player back ,yes those daily are insanelly addictive and fun but only if the faction are balanced!



 


actually that's wrong because there are a number of us who left WoW not because of the dailies but because of many other fundamental problems the game has that the devs simply do not wish to fix even though they definitely know of these issues and they definitely have heard from the player base about them.


.continuous rep grind, instead of adding new items to rep vendors that already exist in cata they continue to add new reps to grind out


.forced grouping is never good for every situation in any mmo, the majority of players don't raid it is only a small percentage that do.


.lack of new recipes even purchasable ones in oldy but goody crafting professions (AHEM engineering)


.no sense of urgency, the storyline is supposedly about the possible end of the world, where are the attacks on major cities, random encounters in the rest of the world


.classes constantly being reworked due to  a flawed system for pvp forcing players to relearn rotations for their class every time for pve


.class imbalance caused by preferential treatment towards magic over more practical attack forms (i speak specifically of the mage being the highest dps last time i played because we ALL know that in real life magic missiles do more damage then bullets right.)


 


these are all reasons why i left the game after playing for 6 years and unfotunately even though people spoke out against these things the fundamental trouble with the game is simple, their devs don't listen to their majority of players anymore. It's sad really.


  tank017

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8/05/11 5:21:02 PM#25
Originally posted by Jimmy562
Originally posted by darlok6666
Originally posted by LauZaIM

Too bad only 5 mil or so are actual monthly subscribers. That means it's 4.1 mil now. Soon to be less when TOR launches.

 If your gonna post totla garbage like that then post facts to back yourself and not look like a complete idiot.  4.1 mill?  Yeah whatever, that doesn't even cover NA and EU subs, then there's all the other contries, Asia, Auastalia, South America... 4.1 mill subs my ass.

He's right. Only western players play per month. Asia pays per hour or something.

 

Doesn't excuse the fact that they're still paying and playing... WoW haters gon hate.
  User Deleted
8/05/11 5:26:08 PM#26
Originally posted by tank017
Originally posted by Jimmy562
Originally posted by darlok6666
Originally posted by LauZaIM

Too bad only 5 mil or so are actual monthly subscribers. That means it's 4.1 mil now. Soon to be less when TOR launches.

 If your gonna post totla garbage like that then post facts to back yourself and not look like a complete idiot.  4.1 mill?  Yeah whatever, that doesn't even cover NA and EU subs, then there's all the other contries, Asia, Auastalia, South America... 4.1 mill subs my ass.

He's right. Only western players play per month. Asia pays per hour or something.

 

Doesn't excuse the fact that they're still paying and playing... WoW haters gon hate.

It's not about haters. I still pay and play casually. This is about WoW losing almost 10% of its world-wide population in 6 months and people discussing why that might be.

  DrDream

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8/05/11 5:29:59 PM#27

Do i smell a progression server? :P i would love to play some vanilla wow again.


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  CujoSWAoA

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8/05/11 5:31:55 PM#28

And as soon asanother Expansion comes out, all the sheep will flock back into the field.


Who cares?


  Bama1267

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8/05/11 5:39:21 PM#29
Originally posted by Infestation2

They're losing subscribers because they keep pumping out the same old crap over and over and over again. Adding new grinding tasks doesnt make a game fun, it makes it BORING! DAILIES ARE BORING! And they keep adding them under the sad delusion that its fun, and that this is what people want. new content is good when its real content, but when its a dozen more daily quest grinds to complete, its a joke. WoW is at its end, and their subs will only continue to plumit from here, especially when SWTOR comes out.

Agree with most of the first part of what you wrote. Not to mention, alot of people have been playing this game for 6 years ... and of course it has gotten boring by now, definitely since they havent added anything truely different in gameplay. As far as SWTOR taking a chunk, I'm not really sure myself. I'll be playing it for one, but Ive also tried every major mmo that has come out. I just don't see alot that sets swtor apart from WoW. Will it be fun? Im sure it will but the question is , will it be different enough not to get insanely bored doing the exact same things I did in WoW? Guess, only tiem will tell.

  tank017

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8/05/11 5:39:41 PM#30
Originally posted by Joarnaj
Originally posted by tank017
Originally posted by Jimmy562
Originally posted by darlok6666
Originally posted by LauZaIM

Too bad only 5 mil or so are actual monthly subscribers. That means it's 4.1 mil now. Soon to be less when TOR launches.

 If your gonna post totla garbage like that then post facts to back yourself and not look like a complete idiot.  4.1 mill?  Yeah whatever, that doesn't even cover NA and EU subs, then there's all the other contries, Asia, Auastalia, South America... 4.1 mill subs my ass.

He's right. Only western players play per month. Asia pays per hour or something.

 

Doesn't excuse the fact that they're still paying and playing... WoW haters gon hate.

It's not about haters. I still pay and play casually. This is about WoW losing almost 10% of its world-wide population in 6 months and people discussing why that might be.

 

That's u speaking for yourself.. You can smell the hate from this thread seeping through the monitor screen.The game is 8 years old, it's bound to lose subs.Even so,blizzard is still the envy of every other mmo company out there.
  Mahlo

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Respectable people... What bastards!

8/05/11 5:45:52 PM#31

threads like this just reinforce how WoW dominates western MMOs. Supposedly big MMOs liked LotRO only ever had 300k users! the fact it's still top dog, numerous times over, is a bigger story than that it losers some players.

  eyelolled

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8/05/11 6:02:23 PM#32

See! I just knew that Mortal Online was going to be a WoW killer!


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  Faelan

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Oops - looks like I'm an internet dog who somehow learned how to type. What has the world come to?

8/05/11 6:22:41 PM#33

The sad part is... it seems that Blizzard's response to this will be patch 4.3 later this year, which contains more raiding and 5 man content according to what they've said. Woohoo... yay... like that's going to help them.


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  Faelan

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Oops - looks like I'm an internet dog who somehow learned how to type. What has the world come to?

8/05/11 6:28:15 PM#34

Originally posted by wowlovr4life

 


Warcraft is number 1. Has been, always will be.  They have survived all the "wow killers", they survived Lord of the Rings ripping off Lich King to make their Witch King,  and are still standing stronger than ever.



 


You know... without Lord of the Rings... there would have been no WoW as we know it. Just saying.


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  darlok6666

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8/05/11 6:30:53 PM#35
Originally posted by Jimmy562
Originally posted by darlok6666
Originally posted by LauZaIM

Too bad only 5 mil or so are actual monthly subscribers. That means it's 4.1 mil now. Soon to be less when TOR launches.

 If your gonna post totla garbage like that then post facts to back yourself and not look like a complete idiot.  4.1 mill?  Yeah whatever, that doesn't even cover NA and EU subs, then there's all the other contries, Asia, Auastalia, South America... 4.1 mill subs my ass.

He's right. Only western players play per month. Asia pays per hour or something.

 Wether it's monthly subs or hourly rates it doesn't matter, either way they generate revenue. 

Regardless Blizz will conjure some sales pitch that people will suck up dry just like they did in the past.  Blizz is just gonna milk WoW for as much as they can, their top Devs aren't even working on WoW anymore as their on the Titan project so yeah the quality of WoW is gonna go downhill.  They now this, they'll try to attract customers as much as they can for WoW, then Titan will be unveiled and all will flock to it like mindless peons.

  sungodra

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8/05/11 6:35:59 PM#36

I seriously doubt they have 11.1 million subscribers... 


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  ThomasN7

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8/05/11 6:43:36 PM#37

They are going to launch WoW in Brazil so they can try to regain some of the subscribers they lost. Nice desperation move but no dice. It is slowly dwindling away. It was a great game back in 2004 but it isn't 2004 anymore.

  Serelisk

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8/05/11 6:47:32 PM#38
Originally posted by sungodra

I seriously doubt they have 11.1 million subscribers... 

They do, surprisingly enough. It's not called the king of MMO's for no reason. World of Warcraft has an outrageously large amount of players actively playing it. 

 

However, a lot of those aren't actually subscribing monthly, but paying for play-time by the hours. At least half of WoW's subscriber rates come from asian markets, where such a pay-ment model is used.

 

These are big hits for WoW, though. I'm in shock!

  OkhamsRazor

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8/05/11 6:49:10 PM#39

Its an number of different things that are causing these losses . Competition from other games , the recession , the games getting old now and Blizzard have inspite of what fanbois think made have taken the game in the wrong direction . Its been a good run but expect more of these loses in future . I'm think they'll be lucky to hold on to 6 million by the end of next year and quite possibly it will be down a lot lower than that unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat ( and pandas definatly aint rabbits ) . I'm betting we'll now see free to play from level 1-60 within 6 months , cash shops , buy an instant level 85 for cash and proberbly every trick in the book other than making the game fun and challenging again. Anyway the parents of the children that play it  will be soon more concerned about putting food in thier mouths rather than buying them little sparkly horses . I reckon theres going to be some epic tantrums on the horizon .


  BlackWatch

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8/05/11 6:50:51 PM#40

Blizzard will attempt to make up the numbers in other countries/regions.  Good luck to them.


It's going to take more than the focus on E-Sports and raiding to win back business.


The generation of dev's that Blizz has working on WoW lacks the hunger, drive, and sense of innovation that the original team had. 


The other thing that happened... Activision.  Blizz was great when the company was 'smallish' and had that 'friends/family' feel to it.  When the company started focussing on 'business' rather than 'the games'... that's when they lost their magic. Sure, they sold box units like mad... but with every expansion, the game lost that edge that it had. 


What does Titan hold for us? Blizz's attempt at a MMO-FPS?  Let's hope they have learned from their mistakes of late... and pray they don't repeat them.

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