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  servedogg

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8/03/11 4:15:28 PM#61
Originally posted by Unlight

Here's a little irony that I just thought about.

Who will profit the most by Blizz/Act approved RMT transactions (besides B/A themselves):  the standard player who spends a couple of hours on average every night playing the game, or the asian gold selling outfits (they'll need a new appellation) who throw dozens of "employees" at the game in 18 hour stretches, 24/7/365-we-never-close-we-take-no-holidays?  It sounds like the filth that have always profited from illicit RMTs will continue to due so, they'll just need to factor in the expense of a Blizz/Act tax.

But I suppose that protecting the stupid and reckless from themselves by filtering transactions through a safe auction system outweighs all other considerations.  After all, people who buy gold and get their identities stolen really didn't have it coming.  I mean, how could the possibly know?

So what your saying is everyone wins.  Blizzard makes money, RMTs make money minus the fees going to Blizzard, and gamers have a safer environment to buy and trade items.  Sounds pretty amazing to me.

  Illyssia

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OP  8/03/11 4:31:51 PM#62

Except it makes online gaming more expensive for people as not only do they buy the game, but a significant number will head to the auction cash house to get a better game experience.

  servedogg

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8/03/11 4:39:08 PM#63
Originally posted by Illyssia

Except it makes online gaming more expensive for people as not only do they buy the game, but a significant number will head to the auction cash house to get a better game experience.

I plan to use the RMAH, but I wont be putting any extra money in.  You can start listing items for free, then use those proceeds to list more items in the future, so as long as your AH spending is always less than your sales there is absolutely no need to ever use real money even on the RMAH.  So only the people that choose to spend real money will.  The average player can still use the market without paying a dime.

  Chilliesauce

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8/03/11 4:44:55 PM#64
Originally posted by Illyssia

Except it makes online gaming more expensive for people as not only do they buy the game, but a significant number will head to the auction cash house to get a better game experience.

I disagree. People who are going to spend real life cash in auction house wouldn't care  for the 'expenses'. Only those who have extra money to burn will go straight to AH. For rest, they can play and use AH to generate income and not spend a penny of real life money to buy anything.

  Torik

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8/03/11 4:49:19 PM#65
Originally posted by Illyssia

Except it makes online gaming more expensive for people as not only do they buy the game, but a significant number will head to the auction cash house to get a better game experience.

This issue wholly depends on how the game is designed. 

Diablo 2 was completely playable without ever trading for any items and you could complete the game with just the items you yourself received.

If the game forces players to get certain rare gear before attemping content than you have an issue since people who are unwilling to spend real money on virtual gear will be locked out of parts of the game.

  crazynanny

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8/03/11 5:06:54 PM#66

Blizzard scenarios:(warning! some irony ahead, sort of sense of humor required to proceed)


1. Blizz: we go with bind on pickup items to stop RMT.
Players: Why U makin WoW clone blizz, You greedy bastards, we want diablo not horde and alliance /ragequit


2. Blizz: we go with oldschool diablo and we'll fight RMT and spent tons of $$$ on GMs(to ban) and support(to restore hacked ppl) cuz we're charity.
Players: Why U let ppl buy items and not ban them, U should monitor Ebay 24/7. And what's with all item/gold spam? And wtf I got hacked(cuz I buyed stuff from RMT but won't admit it evah), U has no security. /ragequit


3. Blizz: we go with oldschool diablo but don't care about RMT
Players: Argh U blizz get cash from those RMTs, I saw one gold farmer and he still plays and spam and that other guy I lost PvP to haz bought his toon for sure. You are with them from start. Traitorz!!11 /ragequit


4.Blizz: we go with real $$$ AH so we can haz more $$$ and You can have some too, who carez about PvP and rich nerds, it's for fun after all, no real gamerz will buy stuff, right?
Players: Why U blizz are so greedy and wtf with sellin itemz in cash shop. That guy in Iml33t lobby room haz 3 best itemz it ruined my gameplay /ragequit


In all seriousness - this isn't MMO. It's lobby game. If You aren't into PvP RMAH is only a win for You. You can ignore it 100% of time, or try to get some cash out some items. All this caring how someone plays his game in his lobby room is like caring that some people used hero editor in D2 to spawn gear and gold.

The thing that I don't like is no offline mode, RMAH I couldn't care less about...

  gtonimusha

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8/04/11 11:10:00 AM#67
Originally posted by Unlight

Who will profit the most by Blizz/Act approved RMT transactions (besides B/A themselves):  the standard player who spends a couple of hours on average every night playing the game, or the asian gold selling outfits (they'll need a new appellation) who throw dozens of "employees" at the game in 18 hour stretches, 24/7/365-we-never-close-we-take-no-holidays?  It sounds like the filth that have always profited from illicit RMTs will continue to due so, they'll just need to factor in the expense of a Blizz/Act tax.

 

I don't quite see your point there. Why can't we all look at these so-called "farmers" as players just like everyone else? True they make a living out of it, but that doesn't strip the fact that they are human and they play fairly as we do. Look at it this way, players enter games for different purposes, some for the sake of entertainment, some for their livings. Who are we to judge what their intentions are...

  lizardbones

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8/04/11 11:38:40 AM#68


Originally posted by gtonimusha


Originally posted by Unlight
Who will profit the most by Blizz/Act approved RMT transactions (besides B/A themselves):  the standard player who spends a couple of hours on average every night playing the game, or the asian gold selling outfits (they'll need a new appellation) who throw dozens of "employees" at the game in 18 hour stretches, 24/7/365-we-never-close-we-take-no-holidays?  It sounds like the filth that have always profited from illicit RMTs will continue to due so, they'll just need to factor in the expense of a Blizz/Act tax.
 


I don't quite see your point there. Why can't we all look at these so-called "farmers" as players just like everyone else? True they make a living out of it, but that doesn't strip the fact that they are human and they play fairly as we do. Look at it this way, players enter games for different purposes, some for the sake of entertainment, some for their livings. Who are we to judge what their intentions are...



That's fine, right up until they force prisoners to do it, botting or hacking peoples' accounts to get more stuff to sell on the AH. Those are the things that make it damaging.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  servedogg

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8/04/11 12:31:54 PM#69
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by gtonimusha


Originally posted by Unlight
Who will profit the most by Blizz/Act approved RMT transactions (besides B/A themselves):  the standard player who spends a couple of hours on average every night playing the game, or the asian gold selling outfits (they'll need a new appellation) who throw dozens of "employees" at the game in 18 hour stretches, 24/7/365-we-never-close-we-take-no-holidays?  It sounds like the filth that have always profited from illicit RMTs will continue to due so, they'll just need to factor in the expense of a Blizz/Act tax.
 



I don't quite see your point there. Why can't we all look at these so-called "farmers" as players just like everyone else? True they make a living out of it, but that doesn't strip the fact that they are human and they play fairly as we do. Look at it this way, players enter games for different purposes, some for the sake of entertainment, some for their livings. Who are we to judge what their intentions are...



That's fine, right up until they force prisoners to do it, botting or hacking peoples' accounts to get more stuff to sell on the AH. Those are the things that make it damaging.

 

It sounds like your not against the RMAH at all as long as account security and bot exploitation is handled well.  I would like to note that I think these are extremely important issues both with and without the RMAH.

I guess we still need to learn more about account security and how Blizzard plans to protect its players from hacking and gutting accounts.  If they provide sufficient means of security and account recovery then I don't see the problem with having a real money marketplace. 

Again, I don't think they have released enough information about the complexity of gameplay to know how prevalent botting will be.  I'm hoping they learned from D2 and will have measure in place to ensure that bots wont be as effective as they were in the past. 

  SonofSeth

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8/08/11 2:06:09 AM#70

I'm too curious in how this will turn out to be worried. Every paradigm shift as huge as this is exciting.

 

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