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  User Deleted
7/30/11 3:49:47 PM#21
Originally posted by elocke
Originally posted by bunnyhopper
Originally posted by elocke

I just like that the one vid showed World PVP.  I miss the days of world PVP like that.  So the combat is like every other MMORPG out there.  To me that's good.  I like tab target 123 combat, it's comfortable and means I can focus on the true aspects of the game, not the combat or learning a new combat system.  All who complain about combat like this need to find a new genre.

Your post was okay up until the underlined part, which seems like a completely pointless and stupid thing to say.

You proved my point in that underlined sentence with your signature.  You are a moba/fps player.  that's fine, but I'm tired of hearing people harping on MMORPG combat because they are used to games like mobas/fps.  So, to YOU its a stupid sentence, to me it speaks volumes about certain mentalities and how they are critiquing games.

I've played and enjoyed multiple mmos since my early UO days, mmos with combat systems completely and utterly different to the type you see in moba/fps games. I personally am inclined to believe that the genre can incorporate multiple combat types, just as I believe that there is space for themepark games as well as my prefered choice of sandbox mmos.

 

Looking at the combat in the game from the perspective of traditional rpg combat, it still looks pretty naff even in that context and not when placed against action/twitch systems.

 

Regardless, you saying people who don't like TAB123 should 'find another genre' is indeed daft given that the genre is in no way tied down to that specific system.

  User Deleted
7/30/11 4:01:15 PM#22

Thank you, I enjoyed watching the videos. Of course there's still room for improvement regarding combat, animations and whatever else.

With ArcheAge all I care about is that they're able to deliver on all they promised. If they do, for me combat will totally take a back seat to everything else that I will be able to do in-game.

Edit: too bad they weren't in higher res though :(

  Eladi

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7/30/11 5:10:00 PM#23

Nice video's about one (to me0 minor part of ArcheAge, I was actualy kinda impressed by the grapics comming from skills, they are quite smoot and not overly oppressing , most games then to trow in a bnch of flashy particles that blind you just to make it shiny , these seem to be fairly toned down yet still very clear and show what is happening.  also Love the Ice freeze CC as you see player animations Freeze in place and not some random static "fake" motion but the way they actual move incl thier weapons.

the combat is click target and click skill old fashion style (tab-targeting)  but thats fine to me its a proven consept and only a minor part of the combat system at large.

The only ugly animations are those of the mounts, (the big doggy/wolf/bear whatever they are fluffy's) its like watching a dog do bunny hops ..

  Adhesive33

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7/30/11 5:32:09 PM#24

I'm fine with the kind of combat this game offers. Although I do enjoy the action-based combat of some newer games, I've never had a problem with tab-123 combat of traditional MMORPGs.

That being said, the one thing I did see in the first video that kind of turns me off of this game is the PvE; I can't stand it when there is just a bunch of mobs equally spaced-out in a plane casually, and obliviously derping back and forth on the same path. It's just so lazy. Give them a reason to be there, have them do something, guard a camp, track animals, anything.

  tvalentine

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7/30/11 6:06:35 PM#25

I really liked the videos except i didnt see any melee. It was all mages and archers. Other then that the animations, graphics, and combat look much better then the videos i was watching months ago. Still cant wait to play this game.

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  trash656

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7/31/11 7:14:58 AM#26
Originally posted by bunnyhopper
Originally posted by elocke
Originally posted by bunnyhopper
Originally posted by elocke

I just like that the one vid showed World PVP.  I miss the days of world PVP like that.  So the combat is like every other MMORPG out there.  To me that's good.  I like tab target 123 combat, it's comfortable and means I can focus on the true aspects of the game, not the combat or learning a new combat system.  All who complain about combat like this need to find a new genre.

Your post was okay up until the underlined part, which seems like a completely pointless and stupid thing to say.

You proved my point in that underlined sentence with your signature.  You are a moba/fps player.  that's fine, but I'm tired of hearing people harping on MMORPG combat because they are used to games like mobas/fps.  So, to YOU its a stupid sentence, to me it speaks volumes about certain mentalities and how they are critiquing games.

I've played and enjoyed multiple mmos since my early UO days, mmos with combat systems completely and utterly different to the type you see in moba/fps games. I personally am inclined to believe that the genre can incorporate multiple combat types, just as I believe that there is space for themepark games as well as my prefered choice of sandbox mmos.

 

Looking at the combat in the game from the perspective of traditional rpg combat, it still looks pretty naff even in that context and not when placed against action/twitch systems.

 

Regardless, you saying people who don't like TAB123 should 'find another genre' is indeed daft given that the genre is in no way tied down to that specific system.

I normally dont post much or read these forums because all people do is bash games on this site regardless even if it's a descent game....

anyways I think actually elocke has a good point. All people do now is whine and complain about combat mechanics in MMO's. Most MMO's have a tab or clicking feature in them. If you want to play something for action oriented play DC Universe Online or something.

All people seem too do on this site is complain and whine about MMO's and why they have been butthurt for the last 6 years because every MMO's is like World of Nocraft, or the combat sysstems are all the same.

They should actually rename this website MMOCRYMORE.com

  kdchan

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7/31/11 4:50:31 PM#27


Originally posted by Mad+Dog
Looks like WoW, EQ, EQ2, Aion ect ect with better graphics.............................................
 
Tab now press 123... OMG please come on.

I agree with this statement, after watching some videos the combat system is really bland and redundant, tabbing and spam skills 1-2-3-4 like in any other game. Why they don't go with a more action system like GW2 or B&S?
Tabbing brainless system belong to the past, the future is non-targeting action mmo where you can evade, move around to avoid attacks, parry and so on. An active approach not a passive spamfest of buttons.

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  GroovyFlower

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7/31/11 5:05:45 PM#28

After seeing these videos i know enough its all done before and combat looks lame with auto target lol.

Just another korean themepark grind no thx.

  Vorthanion

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7/31/11 5:09:18 PM#29
Originally posted by kdchan

 


Originally posted by Mad+Dog
Looks like WoW, EQ, EQ2, Aion ect ect with better graphics.............................................
 
Tab now press 123... OMG please come on.


 

I agree with this statement, after watching some videos the combat system is really bland and redundant, tabbing and spam skills 1-2-3-4 like in any other game. Why they don't go with a more action system like GW2 or B&S?
Tabbing brainless system belong to the past, the future is non-targeting action mmo where you can evade, move around to avoid attacks, parry and so on. An active approach not a passive spamfest of buttons.

 That future exists now in the form of first person shooters and action adventure games.  Tab targeting and auto attack are not going away any time soon as it is very popular with most RPG gamers.

 

By the way, I was under the impression this was going to be a hardcore sandbox game?  What's with the soloing?  I thought that was against hardcore rules?

  Vorthanion

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7/31/11 5:13:31 PM#30
Originally posted by bunnyhopper
Originally posted by elocke
Originally posted by bunnyhopper
Originally posted by elocke

I just like that the one vid showed World PVP.  I miss the days of world PVP like that.  So the combat is like every other MMORPG out there.  To me that's good.  I like tab target 123 combat, it's comfortable and means I can focus on the true aspects of the game, not the combat or learning a new combat system.  All who complain about combat like this need to find a new genre.

Your post was okay up until the underlined part, which seems like a completely pointless and stupid thing to say.

You proved my point in that underlined sentence with your signature.  You are a moba/fps player.  that's fine, but I'm tired of hearing people harping on MMORPG combat because they are used to games like mobas/fps.  So, to YOU its a stupid sentence, to me it speaks volumes about certain mentalities and how they are critiquing games.

I've played and enjoyed multiple mmos since my early UO days, mmos with combat systems completely and utterly different to the type you see in moba/fps games. I personally am inclined to believe that the genre can incorporate multiple combat types, just as I believe that there is space for themepark games as well as my prefered choice of sandbox mmos.

 

Looking at the combat in the game from the perspective of traditional rpg combat, it still looks pretty naff even in that context and not when placed against action/twitch systems.

 

Regardless, you saying people who don't like TAB123 should 'find another genre' is indeed daft given that the genre is in no way tied down to that specific system.

 Really?  So you think we can go into the FPS games and start demanding Tab targeting and auto attack in that genre?  Yeah right.  You action junkies want everything your way.

  Mad+Dog

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7/31/11 5:14:49 PM#31
Originally posted by elocke

I just like that the one vid showed World PVP.  I miss the days of world PVP like that.  So the combat is like every other MMORPG out there.  To me that's good.  I like tab target 123 combat, it's comfortable and means I can focus on the true aspects of the game, not the combat or learning a new combat system.  All who complain about combat like this need to find a new genre.

No, i got Darkfall.

All who are crap at aiming like tab 123.

  Kharmed

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7/31/11 9:09:18 PM#32

I've played rpg's that did not have any kind of combat implemented, if the story is compelling and the community stick's together then we could embark on a pleasent story.

 

I've got no trouble with this combat system, I like the slower paced type which gives me time to think and relax when I'm playing.

  Sovrath

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7/31/11 9:17:03 PM#33

Well, it looks fine to me. I'm not into the arcadey "god of war" combat so slower combat works toward my reference.

I just consider tab targeting and "aim" targeting different ways of doing things and basically different flavors.

I don't consider twitch combat an evoltuion in combat, just a different type. Keep in mind I preer Oblvioin style combat but overall tab targeting doesn't bother me.

This game cant' come fast enough for me.

  User Deleted
7/31/11 10:04:01 PM#34


Originally posted by kdchan

Originally posted by Mad+Dog
Looks like WoW, EQ, EQ2, Aion ect ect with better graphics.............................................
 
Tab now press 123... OMG please come on.

I agree with this statement, after watching some videos the combat system is really bland and redundant, tabbing and spam skills 1-2-3-4 like in any other game. Why they don't go with a more action system like GW2 or B&S?
Tabbing brainless system belong to the past, the future is non-targeting action mmo where you can evade, move around to avoid attacks, parry and so on. An active approach not a passive spamfest of buttons.



Spoiler Alert: GW2 is a tab and spam skills 1-2-3-4 game. Only difference is that one of the buttons youre spamming will be dodge. And as far as moving around to avoid attacks; if you havent been doing that with any of the mmos youve been playing since well, forever, then im sorry but thats your own fault, not the game's.

  Ethian

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8/02/11 1:18:36 PM#35

Combat and the world overall seem abit dull to me but I understand its still in beta. Even if Archeage delivers everything they promise I won't be able to look past a boring and un-original combat system. Tbh the more videos I see of this game the more I think I may just avoid it together. Hopefully they deliver

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  SlyLoK

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8/03/11 12:42:11 AM#36

Good videos.

I am really liking the animations and particle effects.. Even though many games have the traditional style combat what separates them is the quality of animation , particle effects and fluidity of combat.

Just look at the animations during casting and see how the ones being used had different animations. Seeing the character mirror the grasping animation of the root spell was nice to see.

  tank017

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8/04/11 3:47:50 AM#37

Not bad..

I love that floating water bubble CC spell lol.I like the look of the spell casting overall in Archeage.

 

Also,were they going for the Avatar look and feel with that race?

 

me thinks so

  SlyLoK

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8/04/11 5:31:23 AM#38
Originally posted by tank017

Not bad..

I love that floating water bubble CC spell lol.I like the look of the spell casting overall in Archeage.

 

Also,were they going for the Avatar look and feel with that race?

 

me thinks so

Did Avater go for the Saga of Ryzom ( race ) look and feel with their race?

me thinks so

:)

  tank017

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8/04/11 10:05:02 PM#39
Originally posted by SlyLoK
Originally posted by tank017

Not bad..

I love that floating water bubble CC spell lol.I like the look of the spell casting overall in Archeage.

 

Also,were they going for the Avatar look and feel with that race?

 

me thinks so

Did Avater go for the Saga of Ryzom ( race ) look and feel with their race?

me thinks so

:)

never played..

so wouldnt know

  Zadawn

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8/04/11 10:13:21 PM#40

Amazing animations,that's all i can say.

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