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  Barbarbar

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Joined: 4/12/10
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8/01/11 5:41:54 PM#141
Originally posted by DAS1337

Whether or not any of you want to admit this, RMT plagued Diablo 2.  Anyone could google one of these websites and buy anything they wanted, or they could wait for a spammer in game to come along and follow their direction.  The only difference now is that the millions of illegal outfits running this will be next to none.  Blizzard has faced this reality with the only logical decision, that is to regulate it themselves.  If you weren't interested in buying gold/items and such, then you are still presented with the option of not doing it.  This is exactly the same option that you had with the previous game.  There is no difference, just because you didn't do it in Diablo 2 doesn't mean the option wasn't there.

 

I'm not going to say no to one of the biggest games to come out in the past 10 years just because Blizzard decided to do the only thing that can be done to fight RMT outfits.  Take a step back and look at the situation.  It's still going to be a good game. 

The foundation of these sites were duping. They could sell all they wanted because they were basically printing their own money, by duping runes and items. To say that the only thing to do is to become the guy duping (or in Blizzards case:spawning) these items is incorrect.

If DIII is kept dupefree- and it will be now that Blizz is the pusherman, thats for sure- there is no reason to believe gold and item sellers would run rampant, they won't have acces to enough of the rare items, and they would possibly quickly be known as simple scammers and thiefs, who take the money but then don't deliver (because they can't)

  User Deleted
8/01/11 5:53:00 PM#142

Since the initial shock and rage has mellowed into apathy, I can say now that while I don't exactly support this system, I can see the effect it will have on the D2 "black market".  This will help regulate trade and hopefully give an incentive to Blizzard to prevent duping and botting.

 

*shrugs*  Oh well, what can ya do.  I can spend my time being outraged, or just give into apathy and enjoy the game.

  skeaser

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Joined: 6/13/07
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Don't die mad, just die.

8/01/11 6:03:13 PM#143

Now I see you have to be connected to the internet to play and all characters will be stored on the b.net server. Sorry, this doesn't work for me. Contrary to many developers current beliefs, not everyone has constant internet access and games like Diablo 3 would be perfect for my laptop while I'm travelling to places that may not have internet but I can't play unless I'm on the web.


A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.
-Friedrich Nietzsche

  Sulaa

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Joined: 7/13/11
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8/01/11 6:05:27 PM#144
Originally posted by nickster29

*shrugs*  Oh well, what can ya do.  I can spend my time being outraged, or just give into apathy and enjoy the game.

One can also don't play D3 at all.

---------

As for some people arguing that Blizz idea is some kind of "solution".

I don't see "legalizing" item/gold=cash trade as solution. Because it does not solve main problem. It just increse RMT and change main beneficient of it.

So imho it actually make problem bigger not lessen it or solve.

  mad-hatter

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Joined: 3/15/04
Posts: 237

8/01/11 6:09:03 PM#145

By doing this it allows Blizz to regulate the auctions and sniff out the dupers, if some random new player suddenly has 50 of some uber weapon up for auction chances are they are duped.  If you haven't played Diablo 2, please go get yourself a copy and see what that game has become.  Just step into one public channel and watch the spam of shops selling items and tell me that this is a bad idea.  Hell nowadays most people don't even bother to dupe, bots can play the game for you while you enter game clear zones and pick up uber items all while being afk.   Do you really want this to become the norm in D3?  There are reasons why they are doing this.  Complain all you want but you know you're all stil going to buy it if you are a fan of Diablo.

  ThomasN7

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"Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.” - Mordin Solus

 
OP  8/01/11 6:14:55 PM#146
Originally posted by mad-hatter

By doing this it allows Blizz to regulate the auctions and sniff out the dupers, if some random new player suddenly has 50 of some uber weapon up for auction chances are they are duped.  If you haven't played Diablo 2, please go get yourself a copy and see what that game has become.  Just step into one public channel and watch the spam of shops selling items and tell me that this is a bad idea.  Hell nowadays most people don't even bother to dupe, bots can play the game for you while you enter game clear zones and pick up uber items all while being afk.   Do you really want this to become the norm in D3?  There are reasons why they are doing this.  Complain all you want but you know you're all stil going to buy it if you are a fan of Diablo.

 So everythng is ok now just because you are giving Blizzard a cut. Talk about selling your soul to the devil, not to mention your wallet.

  parrotpholk

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/20/05
Posts: 3317

8/01/11 6:15:04 PM#147

Blizz is dead...long live activision! If this works in D3 you can be assured it will be in their future MMOs and games.

  crimson8k

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Joined: 10/11/07
Posts: 10

8/01/11 6:41:48 PM#148

 I've never bought or sold any gaming items.  I know it goes on, and that it is nearly impossible to stop.  However a game company promoting it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  Said company profiting off it makes it that much worse.  This is one game I won't be buying. 

  niceguy3978

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Joined: 6/14/06
Posts: 2011

8/01/11 6:44:50 PM#149
Originally posted by rygard49
Originally posted by niceguy3978
Originally posted by Unlight
Originally posted by DAS1337

Whether or not any of you want to admit this, RMT plagued Diablo 2.  Anyone could google one of these websites and buy anything they wanted, or they could wait for a spammer in game to come along and follow their direction.  The only difference now is that the millions of illegal outfits running this will be next to none.  Blizzard has faced this reality with the only logical decision, that is to regulate it themselves.  If you weren't interested in buying gold/items and such, then you are still presented with the option of not doing it.  This is exactly the same option that you had with the previous game.  There is no difference, just because you didn't do it in Diablo 2 doesn't mean the option wasn't there.

 

I'm not going to say no to one of the biggest games to come out in the past 10 years just because Blizzard decided to do the only thing that can be done to fight RMT outfits.  Take a step back and look at the situation.  It's still going to be a good game. 

Blizzard hasn't fixed this, they're just making sure they get their cut.  ironically, this is also how organized crime operates.

Besides, the RMT thing (which never affected me while playing the first two games) is just one of the birds being flipped at the player.  And their rationlization for no offline mode is insulting thin.

Actually this is more like when, in the U.S., many states legalized the lottery and ran it themselves.  This pushed out the numbers running source of money for the mob, and the government got their cut.  The way it was before was similar to how organized crime operates in black markets.

So what's the solution to this? I'm pretty sure it's not: 'Blizzard is greedy and they suck for charging for this'. What else could Blizzard have done but to make this process safer than going through 3rd party distributors?

You people are so quick to criticize without offering any actual solutions or alternatives.

Not sure why i'm quoted here as I have no problem with this, and as I was responding to someone who claimed this was like the mob, and I said it wasn't the way it was in the past was similar to organized crime in the black market.

  Icewhite

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Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

8/01/11 6:45:43 PM#150

"There will continue to be opportunities for us to exploit the PC platform in ways that we haven’t yet."--B. Kotick.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  cyress8

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Joined: 9/25/05
Posts: 866

BOOYAKA!

8/01/11 6:51:48 PM#151

I cannot wait till the AH is so saturated with the loot from the multi-account RMT companies. I can get my epics for a dollar and will jump for joy. Who else is with me?

BOOYAKA!

  crazynanny

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Joined: 9/03/10
Posts: 175

8/01/11 6:59:33 PM#152

Have to say that Blizz has a balls to pull this one off. And I'm perfectly fine with it(later more about it). I mean it's grey in moral side, we all want shiny Blizz on white horse smacking bans with big hammer on those pesky RMT sellers and buyers. But reality is a tad more complex.


People was, are and will buy from RMT sites or each other on Ebay and other sites(google d2jsp). I mean sure You can ban them all and hire more GMs and do the 1st shoot myself in foot as it'll only bring less revenue(banned customers) and more expenses(more staff to pay salaries). Even more those who You will not catch will get hacked or scammed and go for Blizz support - again lost revenue cause some will /ragequit blaming Blizz being hacked + more expenses on hiring more support to restore accounts. So 2nd shoot in the foot. All of this to frankly achieve nothing except looking good, not that this will be apreciated in any way as RMT will still be visible both in and out of game and people will still complain. That's the Blizz point of view.


Now off to player aka mine point of view. People will hack, exploit, cheat and buy from RMT gaining advantage and frankly I can't do a thing about it. I can either don't care or don't play. Since it's not MMO I couldn't care less what other will do and get. Besides for me it's about playing not having +6 e-peen sword of doom. AH will get some RMT out of game, so less spamming their offers and such. Besides having a big market of items to finish set is always a good thing. Be it buying by some casual guy or selling few items by hardcore one. Don't like it, don't use it as simple as that. At least You have a safe choice unlike with sites full of keyloggers and such. But I must admit I'm curious how it'll affect in game currency and gold selling.


Anyways I'll be buying Diablo and I care more about no offline mode, which I'm angry about, than real cash AH. Funny thing is that this whole issue could bring completely new people to diablo - less interested with gaming, more in profit again I wonder how will this affect whole thing. Anyways:

As long as Blizz themselves doesn't sell items/gold I don't care.

  TGSOL

Novice Member

Joined: 3/14/11
Posts: 279

8/01/11 7:02:03 PM#153
Originally posted by Icewhite

"There will continue to be opportunities for us to exploit the PC platform in ways that we haven’t yet."--B. Kotick.

"The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games." - Bobby Kotick

 

"...if it was left to me, I would raise the prices even further." - Bobby Kotick

 

"Kotick's real bombshell of a statement didn't hit until he stopped talking about gaming technology and started discussing his views on corporate culture. According to Gamespot, Kotick 'pointed to changes he implemented in the past as being particularly beneficial, such as designing the employee incentive program so it 'really rewards profit and nothing else.''" - http://hothardware.com/News/Activision-Blizzard-CEO-Bobby-Kotick-Talks-Gaming-Hates-Happy-People/

  Ranyr

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Joined: 12/08/04
Posts: 184

8/01/11 7:07:46 PM#154
Originally posted by cyress8

I cannot wait till the AH is so saturated with the loot from the multi-account RMT companies. I can get my epics for a dollar and will jump for joy. Who else is with me?

No one seems to know that people sold items for real money all over Diablo 2. Why let a random third-party sell your in-game items for money when you can do it in-game yourself for a small fee?

They are just removing the third party and keeping it in house. It's not a big deal, if they hadn't added this themselves than it would just happen again and the third parties would profit again.

Get some perspective and know all the facts before you doom-say please. RMT for items WILL ALWAYS HAPPEN REGARDLESS. This is a smart business move and you kind of have to respect them for it.

The key factor is making gold worthwhile unlike in Diablo 2, this will curb the RMT and keep it in check.

  KnaveSkye

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Joined: 7/27/06
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8/01/11 7:08:33 PM#155

After giving this some time to settle, it really doesnt bother me. When it occured to me that this will only really be detimental potentially to the PVP crowd, I realized I had no reason to be worried.

How many complaining about this actually played the first 2 games? I cant imagine anyone who did being so upset about the RMT side of this, when you consider it will also have a ingame currency side as well.

A MMO style auction house to buy and sell items from those not interested in the RMT market, yes please. Potentially being grouped up with people who spent real money on their gear instead of grinding for it...PVE it makes no difference.

Blizzard is doing everything they can to make this game something people want to play until the inevitable expansion, this is just another tool at everyones disposal to enhance that experience. It is also a tool you have to option to completely ignore.

  parrotpholk

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Joined: 1/20/05
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8/01/11 7:11:48 PM#156
Originally posted by KnaveSkye

After giving this some time to settle, it really doesnt bother me. When it occured to me that this will only really be detimental potentially to the PVP crowd, I realized  had to reason to be worried. How many complaining about this actually played the first 2 games? I cant imagine anyone who did being so upset about the RMT side of this, when you consider it will also have a ingame currency side as well. A MMO style auction house to buy and sell items from those not interested in the RMT market, yes please. Potentially being grouped up with people who spent real money on their gear instead of grinding for it...PVE it makes no difference. Blizzard is doing everything they can to make this game something people want to play until the inevitable expansion, this is just another tool at everyones disposal to enhance that experience. It is also a tool you have to option to completely ignore.

But where is the incentive to put anything actually worthwhile on the ingame currency AH when you can get paid off it. People who choose not to participate in Blizzards money grab will still get the shaft.

  Sulaa

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8/01/11 7:13:15 PM#157

New recent trend that is seen in last few years make me wonder more and more. How is so that people are more worried about companies interest that their own one. Well whatever is the reason I sure would be happy if i were investor or in menagment on game company.

 

As for limiting item trade/bots/hacks there are many ways most companies havent implemented or did only partially. Other than just simply increasing GM's numbers.

 

You're right in one though - "legalizing" RMT trade , having control over it (remember Bliz set drop rate and add new shinies through udates and patches) and taking a cut from each sale , acually will increase revenue and profits alot while other solutions would propably not at least nowhere as much.

I understand Acti/Bliz I just don't understand some players that actually actively help game company increase profits by their own expense.

 

Guess I am just "old fashioned" and "non-trendy" these days.

 

Well anyway. Good night. It is preety late down here.

  KnaveSkye

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8/01/11 7:14:19 PM#158
Originally posted by parrotpholk
Originally posted by KnaveSkye

After giving this some time to settle, it really doesnt bother me. When it occured to me that this will only really be detimental potentially to the PVP crowd, I realized  had to reason to be worried. How many complaining about this actually played the first 2 games? I cant imagine anyone who did being so upset about the RMT side of this, when you consider it will also have a ingame currency side as well. A MMO style auction house to buy and sell items from those not interested in the RMT market, yes please. Potentially being grouped up with people who spent real money on their gear instead of grinding for it...PVE it makes no difference. Blizzard is doing everything they can to make this game something people want to play until the inevitable expansion, this is just another tool at everyones disposal to enhance that experience. It is also a tool you have to option to completely ignore.

But where is the incentive to put anything actually worthwhile on the ingame currency AH when you can get paid off it. People who choose not to participate in Blizzards money grab will still get the shaft.

 You also have to remember that there is a flat fee both for listing and for the successful sell of an item if i read correctly. Not everyone, the younger crowd in particualr, is going to have money to list these items, so i would imagine there will be plenty of items available in both markets. This is a AAA game with some serious brand appeal, we are talking millions of people playing and potentially participating.

  cyress8

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BOOYAKA!

8/01/11 7:15:04 PM#159


Originally posted by Ranyr


Originally posted by cyress8
I cannot wait till the AH is so saturated with the loot from the multi-account RMT companies. I can get my epics for a dollar and will jump for joy. Who else is with me?


No one seems to know that people sold items for real money all over Diablo 2. Why let a random third-party sell your in-game items for money when you can do it in-game yourself for a small fee?
They are just removing the third party and keeping it in house. It's not a big deal, if they hadn't added this themselves than it would just happen again and the third parties would profit again.
Get some perspective and know all the facts before you doom-say please. RMT for items WILL ALWAYS HAPPEN REGARDLESS. This is a smart business move and you kind of have to respect them for it.
The key factor is making gold worthwhile unlike in Diablo 2, this will curb the RMT and keep it in check.


We know people sold items in D2. However, it still will not curb the RMT companies. They have been in the game for too long to not find a loophole. One being controlling the market by bombarding it will goods to control lower the prices to chump change levels and then outright buying out all the cheap goods and jacking up the prices. It has happened in plenty of games. I fear it will happen here, but at least Blizzard makes a profit, eh?

BOOYAKA!

  parrotpholk

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8/01/11 7:17:20 PM#160
Originally posted by KnaveSkye
Originally posted by parrotpholk
Originally posted by KnaveSkye

After giving this some time to settle, it really doesnt bother me. When it occured to me that this will only really be detimental potentially to the PVP crowd, I realized  had to reason to be worried. How many complaining about this actually played the first 2 games? I cant imagine anyone who did being so upset about the RMT side of this, when you consider it will also have a ingame currency side as well. A MMO style auction house to buy and sell items from those not interested in the RMT market, yes please. Potentially being grouped up with people who spent real money on their gear instead of grinding for it...PVE it makes no difference. Blizzard is doing everything they can to make this game something people want to play until the inevitable expansion, this is just another tool at everyones disposal to enhance that experience. It is also a tool you have to option to completely ignore.

But where is the incentive to put anything actually worthwhile on the ingame currency AH when you can get paid off it. People who choose not to participate in Blizzards money grab will still get the shaft.

 You also have to remember that there is a flat fee both for listing and for the successful sell of an item if i read correctly. Not everyone, the younger crowd in particualr, is going to have money to list these items, so i would imagine there will be plenty of items available in both markets. This is a AAA game with some serious brand appeal, we are talking millions of people playing and potentially participating.

That will depend on if the charge is up front or they take it off the sale.  Then anyone in theory can participate also depending on the options for cashing out.  

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