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  Kumapon

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7/29/11 12:46:20 PM#1

One of the biggest bombs to hit Korea today was the fact that Yong-Hyun Park has left BHS. It's on almost every single Korean gameing site. 

Yong-Hyun Park was the lead developer of the L2 team at NCsoft that left to form BHS. He is the creator/lead developer/funder and the head honcho at BHS, and now that he has left, allot of speculation is going around about the future of BHS and TERA, most of it grim news. 

In a weird twist, YH Park said he left due to the stress, and the constant conflict with NCoft. But later in the day Jake Song of XL studios (Arche Age) talked about YH Park joining the team. So nobody knows what is going on atm. 

Not gonna lie, this is devastating news. What will the future of TERA now hold ?

Doesn't matter what gaming site you go to, they are all reporting it. 

Just google YH park leaves BHS and you will get tons of sites.

Here is one

http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2134&l=314

  Xasapis

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7/29/11 1:56:00 PM#2

It could be the prime reason why the "westernisation" takes so long or it could just be a bump on the road. We'll see.

  Kumapon

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7/29/11 7:20:33 PM#3

Seems like Bromags from EME has quit as well.

 

But from YH Park, he made a statement today saying the reason why he is leaving is due to massive stress/depression, and his doctor ordered him to take some time off. This is due from the constant harassment from Ncsoft (Ncsoft still won't quit with their legal means) and the massive pressure from shareholders on Tera not doing very well in Korea.

 

A few websites were reporting that he got a job at Xl games, but YH Park clarified that it was only a job offer, and he turned it down due to him being really sick atm. He said he is gonna take some rest to get better, and after will see where his career lies. 

 

Byung-Gyu Chang will take over the full funding of TERA and Huang Cher Ung (the guy that looks like a girl) will take over the lead producer/developer. 


Byung-Gyu Chang is one of the richest men in Korea, so BHS/Tera won't be going under any time soon.

Personally my feelings is that YK Park was a old school developer, so he micro managed everything, and refused to let anyone have a say in the game. Now with Huang Cher Ung in charge, he is much younger and more open, communication can finally get out and people in NA will finally get some idea of what is going on.

  Datcyde

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7/30/11 12:44:09 AM#4

 Looks liek someone got replaced if it was that quick just sayin .

  Ichmen

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7/30/11 12:48:08 AM#5

funny thing is.. in korea if you go bankrupt you go to jail lolol so they would have to replace him asap... or get in alot more "human waste" then they are with ncsoft..

still sucks though, if he is infact stressing over ncsoft thats pretty harsh O_O

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  end_break_f

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7/30/11 5:54:31 PM#6

Apparently this is a forbidden topic too at the US Tera site. This was posted there too yesterday and now it's gone. I never seen them delete a post before. Even Elin threads were just moved and closed, not deleted. Censors will be censors apparently.

  Kumapon

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7/31/11 3:49:04 AM#7
Originally posted by end_break_f

Apparently this is a forbidden topic too at the US Tera site. This was posted there too yesterday and now it's gone. I never seen them delete a post before. Even Elin threads were just moved and closed, not deleted. Censors will be censors apparently.

Kinda strange if you ask me.  Myself having a vested interest in Tera,  I do lurk those forms allot, seeing what's going on with the Western version.

 

I've been lurking those forms for years and never have I ever seen this happen, If it is a bad or trolled thread they always have a mod explain and close the thread. But this one just vanished without a trace no explanation at all.

 

It would be nice of EME at this point to come out and explain the situtaion, to calm some nevers, and even put a positive spin on it. Trust me they are not making many friends with this. 

 

To say that I am worried about this game is a understaement. Now I know it's not all EME's fault as they just do as they are told by BNS. But comeone a little PR would go along way to making this game a sure sucess as the game itself is amazing. 

 

I'll try myself to try and hype this game up and give out some info on the game.

  Honeymoon69

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7/31/11 3:43:46 PM#8
its obvious he made a smart choice since Tera already came out and failed time to move on and ArcheAge already have more hype than Tera here.
  Sovrath

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7/31/11 3:49:48 PM#9

That pretty much kills it for me.

If he goes to archeage then that would be another feather in its cap.

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  stayontarget

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7/31/11 3:51:00 PM#10

Tera has not failed in Korea,  what has failed is western people lack of understanding of whats going on.

One of the biggest reasons is the price structure. In Korea they only offer a 20.00 US monthly unlimited plan(like western games), and that may seem normal to westerners, but to a Korean it's a strange foreign concept. Koreans don't play video games at home on their PC's. They go to internet cafe's, get drunk with their friends, and play online for like 1.50 a hour. So because of the price structure Tera offers, most internet cafes refuse to carry Tera.

 

If Tera would follow the standard pricing system that other games in Korea things would be quite different.  As it stands now tera has around 100k concurrent users,  which is quite a lot considering the situation.

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  Sovrath

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7/31/11 4:35:29 PM#11
Originally posted by stayontarget

Tera has not failed in Korea,  what has failed is western people lack of understanding of whats going on.

One of the biggest reasons is the price structure. In Korea they only offer a 20.00 US monthly unlimited plan(like western games), and that may seem normal to westerners, but to a Korean it's a strange foreign concept. Koreans don't play video games at home on their PC's. They go to internet cafe's, get drunk with their friends, and play online for like 1.50 a hour. So because of the price structure Tera offers, most internet cafes refuse to carry Tera.

 

If Tera would follow the standard pricing system that other games in Korea things would be quite different.  As it stands now tera has around 100k concurrent users,  which is quite a lot considering the situation.

100k users is fine in my eyes. My concern is that the visionary behind the project has left.

  thinktank001

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7/31/11 4:50:08 PM#12
Originally posted by stayontarget

Tera has not failed in Korea,  what has failed is western people lack of understanding of whats going on.

One of the biggest reasons is the price structure. In Korea they only offer a 20.00 US monthly unlimited plan(like western games), and that may seem normal to westerners, but to a Korean it's a strange foreign concept. Koreans don't play video games at home on their PC's. They go to internet cafe's, get drunk with their friends, and play online for like 1.50 a hour. So because of the price structure Tera offers, most internet cafes refuse to carry Tera.

 

If Tera would follow the standard pricing system that other games in Korea things would be quite different.  As it stands now tera has around 100k concurrent users,  which is quite a lot considering the situation.

 Do those cafe have some kind of distribution agreement with the developers?  

I would think that making the full 1.50/hr is better than having to give the developers a cut of your pie.

Unless you meant that koreans don't want to pay the 20 bucks a month on top of the 1.50/hr that cafes charge.

  Yuui

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8/01/11 6:33:42 AM#13

Not surprising. Considering on just how much messed up and unfinished the game is, how broken and imbalanced the core features are, how easily the economy crashed down burning and how horrible the server architecture out there is, its not surprising that the guy ran from sinking ship.

When game starts to loose horrible amounts of server population per DAY and the community forums are crowded with complaints and bugs, the best course of action is to run the other way.

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  wewter

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8/01/11 5:48:36 PM#14

Oy -- that really is too bad.  I was looking forward to TERA being my next Lineage 2.  Haven't played an mmo seriously since L2 (and for good reason...)  nothing since has come close to the guild intimacy and free political structure that was championed in that game, on TOP of awesome looking skins for armor (despite limited armor sets being available and characters somehwat "forced" to use the same armor set)

 

On top of him leaving, the fact that in order to make it to the west this game's art is being diluted, citing "inappropriate content" and/or "suggestions of pedophilia" is ABSURD.  FFS why do we play computer games?  To live out another real-world scenario, just with slightly different rules?  Hell no, I'll take my sexy cartoons any day over lame, "makes-sense" armor styles that people push for because of their "obvious visual utility."  These are computer games, and should be designed and implemented the way the designers intended -- forum fanbois f*ck so much up... i hate reading some of these posts.

 

good thing I preordered SWTOR, I guess, over TERA -- even though I'd like to play both... I cannot see myself with enough time, and will ultimately have to choose.  BF3 wins for fps -- who's going to take my mmo slot?  Maybe if they leave the eastern-style art in the game and free-form political structure, TERA will be a winner winner chicken dinner.  time will tell and we'll see.

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  parrotpholk

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8/01/11 5:54:13 PM#15

Would be a good move for him to hop over to ArcheAge.  TERA will be just as niche here as any other Korean game and would be will to bet it will see no where near the box sales of Aion.

  crpngdth

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8/01/11 5:58:39 PM#16

Yong-Hyun Park leaves BHS, is replaced by Hyun-Yong Park.  The company says "this will be a completely interchangeable interchange and we will not change any changes instituted by Park" Westerners continue to be confused and baffled yet again citing the who can tell theory line.

  stayontarget

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8/01/11 6:02:59 PM#17
Originally posted by thinktank001
Originally posted by stayontarget

Tera has not failed in Korea,  what has failed is western people lack of understanding of whats going on.

One of the biggest reasons is the price structure. In Korea they only offer a 20.00 US monthly unlimited plan(like western games), and that may seem normal to westerners, but to a Korean it's a strange foreign concept. Koreans don't play video games at home on their PC's. They go to internet cafe's, get drunk with their friends, and play online for like 1.50 a hour. So because of the price structure Tera offers, most internet cafes refuse to carry Tera.

 

If Tera would follow the standard pricing system that other games in Korea things would be quite different.  As it stands now tera has around 100k concurrent users,  which is quite a lot considering the situation.

 Do those cafe have some kind of distribution agreement with the developers?  

I would think that making the full 1.50/hr is better than having to give the developers a cut of your pie.

Unless you meant that koreans don't want to pay the 20 bucks a month on top of the 1.50/hr that cafes charge.

Most cafe's have agreements with most gaming companies so people just pay the price the cafe charges with no sub. Tera is one of the few that is not carried by the cafe's and mostly relies on people playing at home.

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  mmorpgbro

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8/01/11 6:57:41 PM#18
Originally posted by wewter

Oy -- that really is too bad.  I was looking forward to TERA being my next Lineage 2.  Haven't played an mmo seriously since L2 (and for good reason...)  nothing since has come close to the guild intimacy and free political structure that was championed in that game, on TOP of awesome looking skins for armor (despite limited armor sets being available and characters somehwat "forced" to use the same armor set)

 

On top of him leaving, the fact that in order to make it to the west this game's art is being diluted, citing "inappropriate content" and/or "suggestions of pedophilia" is ABSURD.  FFS why do we play computer games?  To live out another real-world scenario, just with slightly different rules?  Hell no, I'll take my sexy cartoons any day over lame, "makes-sense" armor styles that people push for because of their "obvious visual utility."  These are computer games, and should be designed and implemented the way the designers intended -- forum fanbois f*ck so much up... i hate reading some of these posts.

 

good thing I preordered SWTOR, I guess, over TERA -- even though I'd like to play both... I cannot see myself with enough time, and will ultimately have to choose.  BF3 wins for fps -- who's going to take my mmo slot?  Maybe if they leave the eastern-style art in the game and free-form political structure, TERA will be a winner winner chicken dinner.  time will tell and we'll see.

Seriously? SWTOR?

If you have been waiting for a new mmorpg since Lineage 2, then you know why you shouldnt buy SWTOR.

SWTOR is a kids game compared to Lineage 2.

SWTOR is WAR,AoC, Rift, Lotro, all those boring wow clones with no community features, BORING and tired quest grinders with nothing new at endgame.

Tera is practically the spiritual successor of L2 with it's politic system.

Watch some gameplay videos please... SWTOR combat is so 2001 (but even more dull), the gameplay is the same old boring crap, and the graphics are just pathetic.

It's a 2 month mmo, just like every other wow clone, grind quest, grind instanced raids, get bored and quit, maybe reroll 1 new character.

At least Tera has plenty of sandbox elements at endgame.

Tera will launch complete in US, with the lvl 58 content and maybe the server vs server features.

Don't buy SWTOR, wait for real mmorpgs like Tera, Archeage, GW2, The Secret World, even Blade & Soul looks better than SWTOR, lol.

Search " 29:30 Beta Update" in youtube if you want to have some laughs (protected by the NDA of course, they don't want to let anyone find out how much the game sucks before buying it)

  dragonbrand

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8/01/11 7:02:15 PM#19
Originally posted by stayontarget

Tera has not failed in Korea,  what has failed is western people lack of understanding of whats going on.

One of the biggest reasons is the price structure. In Korea they only offer a 20.00 US monthly unlimited plan(like western games), and that may seem normal to westerners, but to a Korean it's a strange foreign concept. Koreans don't play video games at home on their PC's. They go to internet cafe's, get drunk with their friends, and play online for like 1.50 a hour. So because of the price structure Tera offers, most internet cafes refuse to carry Tera.

 

If Tera would follow the standard pricing system that other games in Korea things would be quite different.  As it stands now tera has around 100k concurrent users,  which is quite a lot considering the situation.

 Apparently TERA is failling in Korea, otherwise why would the visionary behind the game be leaving. In tyhe quotes attributed to him, there is nothing about pricing structures being the reason he left; it was inapprpriate content and the game not being or developing inot what he had planned.

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  parrotpholk

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8/01/11 7:05:54 PM#20
Originally posted by dragonbrand
Originally posted by stayontarget

Tera has not failed in Korea,  what has failed is western people lack of understanding of whats going on.

One of the biggest reasons is the price structure. In Korea they only offer a 20.00 US monthly unlimited plan(like western games), and that may seem normal to westerners, but to a Korean it's a strange foreign concept. Koreans don't play video games at home on their PC's. They go to internet cafe's, get drunk with their friends, and play online for like 1.50 a hour. So because of the price structure Tera offers, most internet cafes refuse to carry Tera.

 

If Tera would follow the standard pricing system that other games in Korea things would be quite different.  As it stands now tera has around 100k concurrent users,  which is quite a lot considering the situation.

 Apparently TERA is failling in Korea, otherwise why would the visionary behind the game be leaving. In tyhe quotes attributed to him, there is nothing about pricing structures being the reason he left; it was inapprpriate content and the game not being or developing inot what he had planned.

In fairness the NCSoft stuff had to take its toll.  I was behind NCSoft in this matter so to me its justified stress but a heavy toll all the same.

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