Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by Boardwalker

Originally posted by lkc673

You guys not serious right takes one year to be useful in the game? 

One person in this thread said this, just one, while everyone else here knows the statement is not true. Don't be trolled so easily, otherwise your life in EVE will be a painful one.

Alot of people on these fourms are eve fanbois who like to roleplay as politicians 

Ahh another play style thats both wanted and needed in Eve.

It still come down to this...it doesnt matter what you fly, what your skills are, what plan you have set for yourself...in Eve everyone is needed/wanted and useful.

Originally posted by mmo4life

It takes a new player as long as the time he relizes all ships/skills/things in eve are both wanted and needed to learn he/she is usefull.

No sooner, no later.

Truth.

the only skills that really matter in Eve are the ones you possess, no amount of SP will make you successful in Eve, because Eve isnt a level based game, its hard for some people to understand, Eve has no End game..  because it starts from the moment you log in..   things like.. it takes a year to do something is not just misleading.. its a complete fabrication.. its right up there with the 'Eve is a spreadsheet game' ... instead, Eve is a game without walls..  if it was possible to really describe it.. then the tutorial would no doubt be far shorter...  and the players less Unique

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by mmo4life

It takes a new player as long as the time he relizes all ships/skills/things in eve are both wanted and needed to learn he/she is usefull.

No sooner, no later.

Truth.

the only skills that really matter in Eve are the ones you possess, no amount of SP will make you successful in Eve, because Eve isnt a level based game, its hard for some people to understand, Eve has no End game..  because it starts from the moment you log in..   things like.. it takes a year to do something is not just misleading.. its a complete fabrication.. its right up there with the 'Eve is a spreadsheet game' ... instead, Eve is a game without walls..  if it was possible to really describe it.. then the tutorial would no doubt be far shorter...  and the players less Unique

You need to training to use everything in game, and the training takes a huge amount of time. You will be useless until after basicaly a year. T1 ship vs T2 ship, youll get smashed. Also players with more Skill points can use the better versions of all the ships components.

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by mmo4life

It takes a new player as long as the time he relizes all ships/skills/things in eve are both wanted and needed to learn he/she is usefull.

No sooner, no later.

Truth.

the only skills that really matter in Eve are the ones you possess, no amount of SP will make you successful in Eve, because Eve isnt a level based game, its hard for some people to understand, Eve has no End game..  because it starts from the moment you log in..   things like.. it takes a year to do something is not just misleading.. its a complete fabrication.. its right up there with the 'Eve is a spreadsheet game' ... instead, Eve is a game without walls..  if it was possible to really describe it.. then the tutorial would no doubt be far shorter...  and the players less Unique

You need to training to use everything in game, and the training takes a huge amount of time. You will be useless until after basicaly a year. T1 ship vs T2 ship, youll get smashed.

Thats complete crap.

your mentality is whats holding you back. You are thinking in 1 vs only standards. Eve is a social game, with fleets, groups, battles, and friends.

If your waiting for a magic skill, you are not playing.....

A frigate pilot is as needed as a titan pilot..... and everyone wants them both.

So what can you actually be in the game? i know you guys say u can be what you want, but what does the game other to be what i want?

Originally posted by mmo4life

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by mmo4life

It takes a new player as long as the time he relizes all ships/skills/things in eve are both wanted and needed to learn he/she is usefull.

No sooner, no later.

Truth.

the only skills that really matter in Eve are the ones you possess, no amount of SP will make you successful in Eve, because Eve isnt a level based game, its hard for some people to understand, Eve has no End game..  because it starts from the moment you log in..   things like.. it takes a year to do something is not just misleading.. its a complete fabrication.. its right up there with the 'Eve is a spreadsheet game' ... instead, Eve is a game without walls..  if it was possible to really describe it.. then the tutorial would no doubt be far shorter...  and the players less Unique

You need to training to use everything in game, and the training takes a huge amount of time. You will be useless until after basicaly a year. T1 ship vs T2 ship, youll get smashed.

Thats complete crap.

your mentality is whats holding you back. You are thinking in 1 vs only standards. Eve is a social game, with fleets, groups, battles, and friends.

If your waiting for a magic skill, you are not playing.....

 

A frigate pilot is as needed as a titan pilot..... and everyone wants them both.

 

Your mentality is that of roleplayer, not that of someone whom is trying to have fun playing a game but instead someone whom deludes themselves into thinking theyre a pilot.  lol almost never do you take a titan out unless you have a full escort ready.

I'd read through this: http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/07/17/eve-evolved-learning-to-let-go/

:) You'll be useful. I love getting new members into my corperation personally; teaching them how to tackle from about a week in or so. Sending them in to low sec with a bunch of other frigates and getting the experience necessary to really play the game--that's where the learning curve is in eve; learning how to play the game. Sure, others have more skills than you, but that doens't always matter--what matters is strategy and tactics, and who is on your side.

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by mmo4life

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by mmo4life

It takes a new player as long as the time he relizes all ships/skills/things in eve are both wanted and needed to learn he/she is usefull.

No sooner, no later.

Truth.

the only skills that really matter in Eve are the ones you possess, no amount of SP will make you successful in Eve, because Eve isnt a level based game, its hard for some people to understand, Eve has no End game..  because it starts from the moment you log in..   things like.. it takes a year to do something is not just misleading.. its a complete fabrication.. its right up there with the 'Eve is a spreadsheet game' ... instead, Eve is a game without walls..  if it was possible to really describe it.. then the tutorial would no doubt be far shorter...  and the players less Unique

You need to training to use everything in game, and the training takes a huge amount of time. You will be useless until after basicaly a year. T1 ship vs T2 ship, youll get smashed.

Thats complete crap.

your mentality is whats holding you back. You are thinking in 1 vs only standards. Eve is a social game, with fleets, groups, battles, and friends.

If your waiting for a magic skill, you are not playing.....

 

A frigate pilot is as needed as a titan pilot..... and everyone wants them both.

 

Your mentality is that of roleplayer, not that of someone whom is trying to have fun playing a game but instead someone whom deludes themselves into thinking theyre a pilot.  lol almost never do you take a titan out unless you have a full escort ready.

Ahh an escort...you mean of regular ships, of all sizes, comprising of a fleet?? The very people we are talking about in this thread?

Originally posted by mmo4life

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by mmo4life

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by mmo4life

It takes a new player as long as the time he relizes all ships/skills/things in eve are both wanted and needed to learn he/she is usefull.

No sooner, no later.

Truth.

the only skills that really matter in Eve are the ones you possess, no amount of SP will make you successful in Eve, because Eve isnt a level based game, its hard for some people to understand, Eve has no End game..  because it starts from the moment you log in..   things like.. it takes a year to do something is not just misleading.. its a complete fabrication.. its right up there with the 'Eve is a spreadsheet game' ... instead, Eve is a game without walls..  if it was possible to really describe it.. then the tutorial would no doubt be far shorter...  and the players less Unique

You need to training to use everything in game, and the training takes a huge amount of time. You will be useless until after basicaly a year. T1 ship vs T2 ship, youll get smashed.

Thats complete crap.

your mentality is whats holding you back. You are thinking in 1 vs only standards. Eve is a social game, with fleets, groups, battles, and friends.

If your waiting for a magic skill, you are not playing.....

 

A frigate pilot is as needed as a titan pilot..... and everyone wants them both.

 

Your mentality is that of roleplayer, not that of someone whom is trying to have fun playing a game but instead someone whom deludes themselves into thinking theyre a pilot.  lol almost never do you take a titan out unless you have a full escort ready.

Ahh an escort...you mean of regular ships, of all sizes, comprising of a fleet?? The very people we are talking about in this thread?

Ya a noob player can serve as a tackler or Ewarfare, but as a dps? nope

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by mmo4life

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by mmo4life

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by mmo4life

It takes a new player as long as the time he relizes all ships/skills/things in eve are both wanted and needed to learn he/she is usefull.

No sooner, no later.

Truth.

the only skills that really matter in Eve are the ones you possess, no amount of SP will make you successful in Eve, because Eve isnt a level based game, its hard for some people to understand, Eve has no End game..  because it starts from the moment you log in..   things like.. it takes a year to do something is not just misleading.. its a complete fabrication.. its right up there with the 'Eve is a spreadsheet game' ... instead, Eve is a game without walls..  if it was possible to really describe it.. then the tutorial would no doubt be far shorter...  and the players less Unique

You need to training to use everything in game, and the training takes a huge amount of time. You will be useless until after basicaly a year. T1 ship vs T2 ship, youll get smashed.

Thats complete crap.

your mentality is whats holding you back. You are thinking in 1 vs only standards. Eve is a social game, with fleets, groups, battles, and friends.

If your waiting for a magic skill, you are not playing.....

 

A frigate pilot is as needed as a titan pilot..... and everyone wants them both.

 

Your mentality is that of roleplayer, not that of someone whom is trying to have fun playing a game but instead someone whom deludes themselves into thinking theyre a pilot.  lol almost never do you take a titan out unless you have a full escort ready.

Ahh an escort...you mean of regular ships, of all sizes, comprising of a fleet?? The very people we are talking about in this thread?

Ya a noob player can serve as a tackler or Ewarfare, but as a dps? nope

So a noob is useful from the start, but cant do everything...but as they train they will get more and more usefull?

Got it.

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by mmo4life

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by mmo4life

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by mmo4life

It takes a new player as long as the time he relizes all ships/skills/things in eve are both wanted and needed to learn he/she is usefull.

No sooner, no later.

Truth.

the only skills that really matter in Eve are the ones you possess, no amount of SP will make you successful in Eve, because Eve isnt a level based game, its hard for some people to understand, Eve has no End game..  because it starts from the moment you log in..   things like.. it takes a year to do something is not just misleading.. its a complete fabrication.. its right up there with the 'Eve is a spreadsheet game' ... instead, Eve is a game without walls..  if it was possible to really describe it.. then the tutorial would no doubt be far shorter...  and the players less Unique

You need to training to use everything in game, and the training takes a huge amount of time. You will be useless until after basicaly a year. T1 ship vs T2 ship, youll get smashed.

Thats complete crap.

your mentality is whats holding you back. You are thinking in 1 vs only standards. Eve is a social game, with fleets, groups, battles, and friends.

If your waiting for a magic skill, you are not playing.....

 

A frigate pilot is as needed as a titan pilot..... and everyone wants them both.

 

Your mentality is that of roleplayer, not that of someone whom is trying to have fun playing a game but instead someone whom deludes themselves into thinking theyre a pilot.  lol almost never do you take a titan out unless you have a full escort ready.

Ahh an escort...you mean of regular ships, of all sizes, comprising of a fleet?? The very people we are talking about in this thread?

Ya a noob player can serve as a tackler or Ewarfare, but as a dps? nope

Total bull that is. If you speced for it, you could be flying a decent rifter in a few weeks. With a small frigate fleet you could be taking down cruisers and mining barges at the very least. That's how I started out and I did fine :p

---

Guessing this guy has never done any random hydra roaming low sec fleets? lol http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Hydra_Principle

Originally posted by mmo4life

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by mmo4life

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by mmo4life

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by mmo4life

It takes a new player as long as the time he relizes all ships/skills/things in eve are both wanted and needed to learn he/she is usefull.

No sooner, no later.

Truth.

the only skills that really matter in Eve are the ones you possess, no amount of SP will make you successful in Eve, because Eve isnt a level based game, its hard for some people to understand, Eve has no End game..  because it starts from the moment you log in..   things like.. it takes a year to do something is not just misleading.. its a complete fabrication.. its right up there with the 'Eve is a spreadsheet game' ... instead, Eve is a game without walls..  if it was possible to really describe it.. then the tutorial would no doubt be far shorter...  and the players less Unique

You need to training to use everything in game, and the training takes a huge amount of time. You will be useless until after basicaly a year. T1 ship vs T2 ship, youll get smashed.

Thats complete crap.

your mentality is whats holding you back. You are thinking in 1 vs only standards. Eve is a social game, with fleets, groups, battles, and friends.

If your waiting for a magic skill, you are not playing.....

 

A frigate pilot is as needed as a titan pilot..... and everyone wants them both.

 

Your mentality is that of roleplayer, not that of someone whom is trying to have fun playing a game but instead someone whom deludes themselves into thinking theyre a pilot.  lol almost never do you take a titan out unless you have a full escort ready.

Ahh an escort...you mean of regular ships, of all sizes, comprising of a fleet?? The very people we are talking about in this thread?

Ya a noob player can serve as a tackler or Ewarfare, but as a dps? nope

So a noob is useful from the start, but cant do everything...but as they train they will get more and more usefull?

Got it.

 

 

 Lol and how long till they become more useful for themselves? rather then a tool for corps.

Originally posted by drake201

 Lol and how long till they become more useful for themselves? rather then a tool for corps.

You seem to be missing the point of a massively multiplayer game... sure... you can grind out low missions for the rest of your life.... but eve lies in people and corperations. You sir, seem to be doing it wrong lol

Originally posted by Dubbleedge

Originally posted by drake201

 Lol and how long till they become more useful for themselves? rather then a tool for corps.

You seem to be missing the point of a massively multiplayer game... sure... you can grind out low missions for the rest of your life.... but eve lies in people and corperations. You sir, seem to be doing it wrong lol

 So corps are the only massively multiplayer aspect of Eve and if you don't join a corp you fail at the game? 

Originally posted by Dubbleedge

Originally posted by drake201

 Lol and how long till they become more useful for themselves? rather then a tool for corps.

You seem to be missing the point of a massively multiplayer game... sure... you can grind out low missions for the rest of your life.... but eve lies in people and corperations. You sir, seem to be doing it wrong lol

Whatever you guys can try to mislead people as much as you like with play on words but that wont change anything when he starts playing and sees the game for what it really is.

I can go to some asteriod fields and sit there all day mining rocks jettison my cargo for frieghter  to come pick it up, but is that entertaining? no it is very very boring and like I said only roleplayers enjoy this game.

you really have to try EvE to see if it you kind of game.

wile i liked the game, in pretty much all it's aspects i quickly got bored of looking at dots on my screen. it's silly i know, because what else can a space game really have.......besides lots of empty space, but it sill ended up bugging too much. it was just too boring for me.

i highly reccomend getting into a corp asap in this game. it's just too slow if you play by yoursef. a corp definately makes things incredibly funner.

Originally posted by Siris23

Originally posted by Dubbleedge

Originally posted by drake201

 Lol and how long till they become more useful for themselves? rather then a tool for corps.

You seem to be missing the point of a massively multiplayer game... sure... you can grind out low missions for the rest of your life.... but eve lies in people and corperations. You sir, seem to be doing it wrong lol

 So corps are the only massively multiplayer aspect of Eve and if you don't join a corp you fail at the game? 

Most likely, yeah actually. Sure, there's solo play. But if there can be said to be an "end game" in eve, it needs a corp to do it. Wormhole living? Need corp. 0.0 space? Need a corp, most likely an alliance as well. Pirating? Better with a team. Mining? Boring as hell no matter what. The entire game revolves around others--the economy, the pvp, etc. Without others, I'd recommend not playing the game, same thing if you're looking for a solo experience.

But with a corp, it changes everything. Makes you part of the universe, lets you do more tihngs, and gives you support when you need it.

--

Note: Corps are /really/ easy to get in to in a lot of cases. Eve University for instance. Great beginning corp. They'll teach how to do anything you want to do in the game. Red vs Blue are another--two corps constantly at war. Teaching people how to fight in a small fleet, providing some safety as well, as you don't have to suffer actually death (as per their rules it's not allowed). So it provides cheap pvp and experience to get om to that aspect of the game.

Originally posted by lkc673

Hi,

 

i have always wanted to start playing EVE but i hear its really hard to get it starting, im worry that i will lose interest!! Are there anyone out there who is willing to start fresh with me!! lol. Or a new corp that needs a newbie? i really want to find a game that keeps me in longer then 6 months. thank you!

join a noob friendly corp like EVE University, it helps

Originally posted by drake201

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by mmo4life

It takes a new player as long as the time he relizes all ships/skills/things in eve are both wanted and needed to learn he/she is usefull.

No sooner, no later.

Truth.

the only skills that really matter in Eve are the ones you possess, no amount of SP will make you successful in Eve, because Eve isnt a level based game, its hard for some people to understand, Eve has no End game..  because it starts from the moment you log in..   things like.. it takes a year to do something is not just misleading.. its a complete fabrication.. its right up there with the 'Eve is a spreadsheet game' ... instead, Eve is a game without walls..  if it was possible to really describe it.. then the tutorial would no doubt be far shorter...  and the players less Unique

You need to training to use everything in game, and the training takes a huge amount of time. You will be useless until after basicaly a year. T1 ship vs T2 ship, youll get smashed. Also players with more Skill points can use the better versions of all the ships components.

 Just is just wrong on so many levels. You don't need to be able to use every skill in the game to be useful. The thing in eve is to focus on what you want to do in the game. Now the question is to understand what you CAn do. The hard part for a new player to figure out is what are your options as to what you want to do. This is a conundrum to the extreme. I have been playing eve off and on since 1994 and when people check me out they get scared. But the thing is I only have around 4 million skill points and that ain't shit really. I got a real life friend to play with me for 3 months and he racked up around 12 million in 3 months. He focused on getting a mining barge and making lot's of ISK right off the bat and he did nicely for the time he spent in game. Group mining can be a very ludicrous operation over solo mining. My advice ...get in an established corporation that knows what they are doing. Don't be afraid of voice chat like ventrilo or teamspeak because voice chat in EvE online is a necessity if you want to learn the game. EVE is a very sureal experience for the new player. As you learn what is possible in game the possibilities will blow your mind as you accumulate EVE knowledge. This aspect of EVE is what will suck you in and blow you away. The game is what you make of it. If you are not used to communicating with others and utilizing what is possible in a group you will not thrive in EVE. Most people who bad mouth EvE online are used to playing thier MMO solo and EVE is not really the game to play if you like running alone. These type of players forever remain lost in EVE online....

Check out this link to read about someone in a similar position to you: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1557641

Lots of good advice in that thread, minus some of the obvious trolls that are posting here.