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  ProphecyMO

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7/28/11 9:28:03 AM#61
Originally posted by funkmastaD
Originally posted by Betel

"Ardent fanbase" is a meaningless statement.

 

MO has a tiny amount of people playing (not enough to break even according to the CEO), so their mental state has nothing to do with how long the game will last.

 

I imagine you'd call one person playing it an "ardent fanbase".

in this thread there's 2 people, one uses the word 'failed' to describe two games that are still online and active.  Another guy says 'ardent fanbase' in reference to games that have an...well, an ardent fanbase.  If an active game with loyal fans can be called 'failed', than 'failed' holds less meaning than anything I've ever posted.

I wouldn't call it "failed" but you can call it failing due to the business (MO) consitantly not making money since release.  Any business would call that failing. 

  Aethaeryn

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7/28/11 9:31:44 AM#62
Originally posted by mdelury

 


The AI is not great but they are working on that and adding in new harder creatures so the game will eventually have a PVE worth something. I generally don’t play games anymore for the pve its all about the pvp. 

 

I am just going to pick on this one part.  Not saying the rest is not valid.

The AI was "complete" and "awesome" before launch according to SV.  They said it did not work because of "navmesh" problems which was fixed with the "Epic" games patch.  At this point. . if it was complete and the navmesh fixed it should be working by now.

The other thing. . . PvE has been lacking for a long time. . do they even bother to run "invasions" anymore like the Rysar or spiders etc?  Even thought I missed all of thoese they at least gave the game the sense that things were changing etc.  That it was a real world and not just a sand floor or an arena.

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  Betel

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7/28/11 9:35:28 AM#63

It's amazing how many posters suddenly appear saying how great MO is and how it deserves a chance now.

 

Then I look back at their previous posting history ...

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3900667

 

Another thread (from last year) with the same name and with some of the same posters mysteriously appearing and saying they will give it a chance.

 

This of course has nothing to do with SV stating they use viral marketing as their main form of advertising, and anyone who assumes that is obviously just a big meanie.

  baritone3k

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7/28/11 9:36:57 AM#64

I am giving MO a try.

 

FPS melee is crappy tho.

 

Until they develop a much more realistic way to allow for people to employ melee tactics (ducking, weaving, parrying, twirling, juking, etc. etc. etc.) melee in FPS is too stilted to be any fun.

 

I will try it out though.

Someone please make a good MMO.

  ProphecyMO

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7/28/11 9:42:26 AM#65
Originally posted by baritone3k

I am giving MO a try.

 

FPS melee is crappy tho.

 

Until they develop a much more realistic way to allow for people to employ melee tactics (ducking, weaving, parrying, twirling, juking, etc. etc. etc.) melee in FPS is too stilted to be any fun.

 

I will try it out though.

It has a 14day free trial.  Try it before you buy it.  And you can take as many trials as you want.

  funkmastaD

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7/28/11 9:53:29 AM#66
Originally posted by Betel

It's amazing how many posters suddenly appear saying how great MO is and how it deserves a chance now.

 

Then I look back at their previous posting history ...

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3900667

 

Another thread (from last year) with the same name and with some of the same posters mysteriously appearing and saying they will give it a chance.

 

This of course has nothing to do with SV stating they use viral marketing as their main form of advertising, and anyone who assumes that is obviously just a big meanie.

 

 

  I thought we all agreed that every hater was a DF employee, every fanboi was an SV shill.  

  Betel

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7/28/11 9:56:09 AM#67

I didn't get that memo, but are you denying that SV uses viral marketing as the main plank of it's advertising?

 

Please do, just so I can link Henrik himself saying it :)

  Bunkafish

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7/28/11 9:58:44 AM#68

Any game that is released unfinished should not be bought by anyone. I'll never understand how mmo gamers can play unfinished games on release, any other video game genre this type of thing isn't acceptable. I don't understand why it is for the mmo community. 

Anyways, games that come out unfinished i'll never play even if they turn it around. 

  Betel

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7/28/11 10:01:37 AM#69

MMO's are an ongoing process of adding content as previous content is consumed.

 

The difference between MO and most other MMO's is not the "unfinished" aspect, it' the fact that it flat out doesn't work. Even features in since launch still do not work.

 

That is not "unfinished", it's just flat out broken.

  ProphecyMO

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7/28/11 10:08:34 AM#70

In response to Viral Marketing.

 

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You guys can also help us out by sending in tips to those same game sites. I believe there are some game sites that get spammed with tips; and only the "Gems" or the ones that are in "Public Demand" are ever addressed.

So I ask the community itself to also help us out, and start discussion about Mortal Online on any other forums that you might frequent.
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If it's a good game word will get out. That's how not only games work, but most things in life. Make a good game, subs will come, dev team will grow. That's how all the big guys started.

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I guess he doesn't believe if it is a good game people will come.

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7/28/11 10:12:45 AM#71
Originally posted by Stravas

Like several others in the thread, I have tried MO on a very limited basis a couple times now . . . i played in the open beta and did a free trial last Fall but never played beyond perhaps a week in total either time. And yes, there were plenty of things that frustrated the crap out of me about the game but that said, it does offer a very different experience imo to any other mmo on the market atm. I'd say I'm typical of many players right now who simply can't find a game that holds their interest . . . in the search for the perfect, everything is tarnished. That said, I've decided to take advantage of the Summer Discount and purchase MO tomorrow and give it a solid month of dedicated play time to see what's really there and what isn't.

Do yourself a big favour, the game has a trial that lets you experience nearly everything. Use it before you throw your money at SV. The game might not even run on your computer.

  funkmastaD

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7/28/11 10:31:14 AM#72
Originally posted by Betel

I didn't get that memo, but are you denying that SV uses viral marketing as the main plank of it's advertising?

 

Please do, just so I can link Henrik himself saying it :)

 

Why so combative?  Do you think I'm part of this 'campaign'?  That'd explain the hostility, and the absolute lack of humor about all of it.

 

Viral marketing is a buzz word to appease investors, it means 'cheap'.  facebook gimmicks, fun little video releases on youtube, shit like that.  It's not an excuse to witchhunt and margilize anyone who likes the game and says so.

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7/28/11 11:23:25 AM#73
Originally posted by funkmastaD

 

Viral marketing is a buzz word to appease investors, it means 'cheap'.  facebook gimmicks, fun little video releases on youtube, shit like that.  It's not an excuse to witchhunt and margilize anyone who likes the game and says so.

 

Think youre a little confused... SV/Henrik have been clear in regards to their "marketing".  

  Stravas

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7/28/11 11:47:15 AM#74

Virual marketing and social media marketing are used by companies large and small to cut through the deluge of traditional marketing messages . . . there's absolutely nothing inherently dishonest or misleading about it. It's a particularly good method for small cash strapped start ups like Star Vault and frankly they would be stupid to not leverage it as a promotional tool! 

As for the link to my prior comments about MO, if you actually read them, I said I liked a lot of what I saw but wasn't ready to laid down cash for the product at that point . . . that was eight months ago. Several things have changed since then - there has been additional development on the game, there's been a price reduction, and I'm bored and more willing to give something more on the fringe a try!

I honestly don't see any disconnect between my comments then and actions now.

  Betel

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7/28/11 12:08:56 PM#75

 

Viral marketing includes people, paid by the company, making posts on boards such as this in order to promote the product. That is dishonest, as they do not say they have a financial motive for promoting said product and instead pretend to be a normal consumer.

 

SV also asks it's fans to spam msg boards and email game sites to promote it's product, as the Black Opal post shows.

 

As for you personally, why are you buying the product to give it a try when there is a free trial? Surely a sensible person would do the trial and not pay money for a product that is universally agreed to be a bug ridden mess. Even the fans admit there is a LOT more broken game systems than systems that work, and the game has not progressed far since launch.

 

So why are you buying the client instead of doing the trial? You can do two consecutive trials if you want a month to test it out.

  Mithrandolir

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7/28/11 12:25:59 PM#76
Originally posted by Betel

 

So why are you buying the client instead of doing the trial? You can do two consecutive trials if you want a month to test it out.

 

I can't speak for that other person, but I almost did the same thing myself. My reason is that the game is 30% off for the next... 2 days or so. I figured if I try it for a few days and like it, it's going to cost me more than if I buy it now. Still, after reading the forums both here and on the official site, I decided to do the trial first :)

 

Edit because I am sleep deprived and somehow figured became fugured, which might actually be a better term for my thoughts atm...

 

  Betel

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7/28/11 12:27:59 PM#77

Like I said, that's what a sensible person would do :)

 

Though you can do the trial and still buy at the reduced price if you like it, just wait till 10 minutes before the offer closes. That way you still get a chance to actually try before you buy.

  funkmastaD

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7/28/11 12:36:19 PM#78
Originally posted by Betel

 

Viral marketing includes people, paid by the company, making posts on boards such as this in order to promote the product. That is dishonest, as they do not say they have a financial motive for promoting said product and instead pretend to be a normal consumer.

 

 

Do you mean to say that starvault  is actually paying people to make posts under the guise of being customers?  Is that your claim, or are you just saying that viral marketing could be defined as including such practices... the distinction is important, I think.

  Mithrandolir

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7/28/11 12:39:26 PM#79
Originally posted by Betel

Like I said, that's what a sensible person would do :)

 

Though you can do the trial and still buy at the reduced price if you like it, just wait till 10 minutes before the offer closes. That way you still get a chance to actually try before you buy.

 

Indeed, that's my goal. However it seems like a person with 2 casual days into the trial, will not really witness most of the bugs that are being talked about. So I will likely pass on the deal and run the trial the full length, maybe a second time as well, as per your suggestion. Unless of course I find a reason to hate the game with very little play time.

 

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7/28/11 12:45:06 PM#80
Originally posted by funkmastaD
Originally posted by Betel

 

Viral marketing includes people, paid by the company, making posts on boards such as this in order to promote the product. That is dishonest, as they do not say they have a financial motive for promoting said product and instead pretend to be a normal consumer.

 

 

Do you mean to say that starvault  is actually paying people to make posts under the guise of being customers?  Is that your claim, or are you just saying that viral marketing could be defined as including such practices... the distinction is important, I think.

 

We do know for a fact SV has recruited people to post here and on other sites, compensation (if any) is moot. SV staff have named MMORPG.com on more than one occasion.  

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