SWTOR cannot fail. Star Wars fanbase is huge, so huge that almost any star wars game will be profitable. There's no doubt that swtor will dissapoint some players, but I predict a very healthy population in the first year after release.

What if SWtoR fails?..............It won't :)

Yea SWTOR's only failure is failure to surpass world of warcraft's 11.4 million subscribers in the long run.

WE'll see.

All you people have a crystal ball huh?  Well i'm psychic so top that, and my telepathy is telling me that TOR is gonna fail and it's its gonna fail hard.

And i'll be right there laughing when the walls come crashing down.

All this overhyping, this ridiculous 150 dollar CE (that some people are claiming is the standard for MMO CE's ... name which MMO CE was 150 dollars plz thank you, stop adding to this by claiming it is the standard when it is not all you are doing is opening the doors for future companies to pull this same bullsheit)  All the lies about 500 planets or "worlds" in 2025  , it is all doomed to failure because guess what? The game is gonna suck. End of story.

If it fails I would think investors might not want to put that kind of money up again the near future for a game.

Originally posted by sungodra

All you people have a crystal ball huh?  Well i'm psychic so top that, and my telepathy is telling me that TOR is gonna fail and it's its gonna fail hard.

And i'll be right there laughing when the walls come crashing down.

All this overhyping, this ridiculous 150 dollar CE (that some people are claiming is the standard for MMO CE's ... name which MMO CE was 150 dollars plz thank you, stop adding to this by claiming it is the standard when it is not all you are doing is opening the doors for future companies to pull this same bullsheit)  All the lies about 500 planets or "worlds" in 2025  , it is all doomed to failure because guess what? The game is gonna suck. End of story.

 People said exact the same thing to blizzard before world of warcraft was released. Look at wow now. In fact they even wrote off blizzard's mmorpg World of warcraft. They said world of warcraft would fail too back then.

Dont underestimate bioware.

Originally posted by Furor

Originally posted by sungodra

All you people have a crystal ball huh?  Well i'm psychic so top that, and my telepathy is telling me that TOR is gonna fail and it's its gonna fail hard.

And i'll be right there laughing when the walls come crashing down.

All this overhyping, this ridiculous 150 dollar CE (that some people are claiming is the standard for MMO CE's ... name which MMO CE was 150 dollars plz thank you, stop adding to this by claiming it is the standard when it is not all you are doing is opening the doors for future companies to pull this same bullsheit)  All the lies about 500 planets or "worlds" in 2025  , it is all doomed to failure because guess what? The game is gonna suck. End of story.

 People said exact the same thing to blizzard before world of warcraft was released. Look at wow now. In fact they even wrote off blizzard's mmorpg World of warcraft. They said world of warcraft would fail too back then.

 well guess what? This aint world of warcraft... or err wait is it???? Bah i'm confused  I guess it is a version of World of Warcraft because it will play exactly like that game.

Bioware dooesn't know HOW to "fail".

Originally posted by sungodra

All you people have a crystal ball huh?  Well i'm psychic so top that, and my telepathy is telling me that TOR is gonna fail and it's its gonna fail hard.

And i'll be right there laughing when the walls come crashing down.

All this overhyping, this ridiculous 150 dollar CE (that some people are claiming is the standard for MMO CE's ... name which MMO CE was 150 dollars plz thank you, stop adding to this by claiming it is the standard when it is not all you are doing is opening the doors for future companies to pull this same bullsheit)  All the lies about 500 planets or "worlds" in 2025  , it is all doomed to failure because guess what? The game is gonna suck. End of story.

There should be a law against being a rabid supporter of a product then posting stuff like this due to a BS reason like you felt the need to spend 150 on a CE.

Originally posted by Zefire

I wanted to know what u guys think about swtor.

Everyone has seen that the last mmos were full of promises full of advertisment and in the end every last one of those junks failed the mmo player base.If not all them most of the players were dissapointed.

FFxiv was a fail,Dcuo was good but very very sort with lack of content and customization and finally rift was moderate with bad optimiztion in the graphics meaning that aa and af were ultra unoptimized.Moreover the game had a lot of other flaws plus it was very boring and not fun at all.

All these games were promised to their gamers base that we are going to do magic.The result was the opposite.

Now we have bioware that they have made very nice games although da2 was a bit of fail in comparison to dao.

I watched some videos from comic con and some Bioware people were making big promises about swtor and if it was not that enough they said we pushed the release date back because ""we do not realeasing crap"".After hearing this i remembered what other studios had say to the crowd about their game and how badly failed.

What if Bioware is full of fake promises too.Are u ever going to trust them on an mmo or for singleplayer games?
And if Swtor fails then what games are u going to look forward to.I think ill stick with diablo 3 and maybe tera.

If Swtor fails all will fail. Except of course Tera ;P

I dont think Rift can be called a failure, it might not have lived up to what "some" people wanted but commercially it seems to be a success and critically it has had a good reception.

Dragon Age 2 dissapointed me, especially after I played The Witcher 2 and saw what an RPG could be these days.   BUT and here is the important thing, when I recently went back to DA 2 I realised, it only dissapointed me because of MY expectations and the high standards I had, after playing Fable 3 and enjoying it I went back to DA 2 without any preconceptions and I while not blown away like I was with EVERY other Bioware game I have played, it was still reasonable.

With the amount of Pre-orders likely happening, with the sheer momentum that SW:ToR will have and with their only real competitor (Blizzard) essentially giving up the MMO battle this year I dont see SW:ToR failing.  The feature sets look like things I will like, people who I have talked to who are in Beta have encouraged me with what they have said about the game, more over they are feature sets that a LOT of people will enjoy, certainly enough to ensure ToR is a commercial success.

Critical acclaim is almost a given and I dont see any problem with EA/Bioware/LA Recouping all costs within 3 months tbh. 

However if ToR turns out not to be the sort of game "I" personally want to play then I will look into Tera, GW 2 and The Secret World, but I dont hold out much hope of those games, Tera got panned in Korea already even by western press, GW 2 well GW promised the eartth and ended up being a glorified lobby and dungeon server game (yes I am aware not every map was in a "dungeon" but they were all instanced to 4 people) so I dont think Anet have much experience developing an open world (though I will give them the benifit of the doubt and try it because what they did with Gw for a multiplayer co-op game was fun).

The secret world has an interesting premise but funcom have made a trainwreck of MMOs before so we shall see.

Originally posted by sungodra

All you people have a crystal ball huh?  Well i'm psychic so top that, and my telepathy is telling me that TOR is gonna fail and it's its gonna fail hard.

And i'll be right there laughing when the walls come crashing down.

All this overhyping, this ridiculous 150 dollar CE (that some people are claiming is the standard for MMO CE's ... name which MMO CE was 150 dollars plz thank you, stop adding to this by claiming it is the standard when it is not all you are doing is opening the doors for future companies to pull this same bullsheit)  All the lies about 500 planets or "worlds" in 2025  , it is all doomed to failure because guess what? The game is gonna suck. End of story.

Originally posted by malroth67

Originally posted by sungodra

All you people have a crystal ball huh?  Well i'm psychic so top that, and my telepathy is telling me that TOR is gonna fail and it's its gonna fail hard.

And i'll be right there laughing when the walls come crashing down.

All this overhyping, this ridiculous 150 dollar CE (that some people are claiming is the standard for MMO CE's ... name which MMO CE was 150 dollars plz thank you, stop adding to this by claiming it is the standard when it is not all you are doing is opening the doors for future companies to pull this same bullsheit)  All the lies about 500 planets or "worlds" in 2025  , it is all doomed to failure because guess what? The game is gonna suck. End of story.

 

Every post you make wants this MMO to fail, you keep screaming for it to end. For what, you obviously don't care about this game, we all get it already, you want everyone to play GW2 because you think its the 2nd coming. Please get over yourself already, and quit trying to get people to conform to your own personal way of thinking, it is very tired out, and you are only making a very bad reputation here. Honestly, what do you care what I or anyone else likes? People have different opinions, and everytime someone expresses it, you bash em and try to get em to conform to your way of thinking! News flash, everyone is different, with different taste's and different opinions! You are only making yourself sound like an idiot, take it however you want, but I will not reply to an obvious troll who only cares about his own agenda!

He cared enough to feel he needed to pay 150 for a CE, look at his SWTOR post history (before the CE/Pre-order announcment), I can't help but LOL.

I'm not attacking the guy, I just want to bring his history to light, as it is highly ironic and gives reason to just ignore him from now on.

SWTOR won't fail. Not at all. Will it break even? Now that's the question. But it won't be a failure.

I know because I'm usually right. Even when I am wrong.

Failure is always a point of view, I guess. I can't imagine TOR really fails on a larger level. But who can say. I really don't know that it would mean. Maybe nothing. SWTOR is in itself a very unique sort of MMO.

Originally posted by Malickie

 

He cared enough to feel he needed to pay 150 for a CE, look at his SWTOR post history (before the CE/Pre-order announcment), I can't help but LOL.

I'm not attacking the guy, I just want to bring his history to light, as it is highly ironic and gives reason to just ignore him from now on.

 Greedy over inflated ego company says fuck you to their fans by charging Halo 3 like prices to their CE?  Hey, i been stressed out all week long wandering how I am gonna come up with the money to get this thing... and I have no idea how well this game is even gonna do...  It could possibly be a failure is all I'm saying... Certain to fail? No probably not, could fail.. yes it is very possible.

This company allowed all the praise and awards to go to it's head and then decided to drop the bombshell, you better be rich if you want it , CE box on us all.. That is what caught me by surprised and it has sent me into a rage ever since.

Then a freakin cool/rich kids club "Vip lounge" to rub it in.

If it fails, you play something else.

Originally posted by sungodra

Originally posted by Malickie

 

He cared enough to feel he needed to pay 150 for a CE, look at his SWTOR post history (before the CE/Pre-order announcment), I can't help but LOL.

I'm not attacking the guy, I just want to bring his history to light, as it is highly ironic and gives reason to just ignore him from now on.

 Greedy over inflated ego company says fuck you to their fans by charging Halo 3 like prices to their CE?  Hey, i been stressed out all week long wandering how I am gonna come up with the money to get this thing... and I have no idea how well this game is even gonna do...  It could possibly be a failure is all I'm saying... Certain to fail? No probably not, could fail.. yes it is very possible.

 

This company allowed all the praise and awards to go to it's head and then decided to drop the bombshell, you better be rich if you want it , CE box on us all.. That is what caught me by surprised and it has sent me into a rage ever since.

 

Then a freakin cool/rich kids club "Vip lounge" to rub it in.

 you had what.....four years to come up with $150??

I'm not "rich", but $150 is about one good evening's entertainment to me. It's not really a big deal, unless you're unemployed or working for minimum wage with kids to feed.

Originally posted by sungodra

Originally posted by Furor

Originally posted by sungodra

All you people have a crystal ball huh?  Well i'm psychic so top that, and my telepathy is telling me that TOR is gonna fail and it's its gonna fail hard.

And i'll be right there laughing when the walls come crashing down.

All this overhyping, this ridiculous 150 dollar CE (that some people are claiming is the standard for MMO CE's ... name which MMO CE was 150 dollars plz thank you, stop adding to this by claiming it is the standard when it is not all you are doing is opening the doors for future companies to pull this same bullsheit)  All the lies about 500 planets or "worlds" in 2025  , it is all doomed to failure because guess what? The game is gonna suck. End of story.

 People said exact the same thing to blizzard before world of warcraft was released. Look at wow now. In fact they even wrote off blizzard's mmorpg World of warcraft. They said world of warcraft would fail too back then.

 well guess what? This aint world of warcraft... or err wait is it???? Bah i'm confused  I guess it is a version of World of Warcraft because it will play exactly like that game.

Hows Rift?