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  Grailer

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OP  7/21/11 3:46:19 PM#1

Most open beta are just to get players hooked onto the game pre launch imo

 

Maybe because this game has a story line they didnt want to risk losing sales  ( would be like if you watched a movie before it was released then got offered to buy the movie )

  aesperus

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7/21/11 3:48:37 PM#2
Originally posted by Grailer

Most open beta are just to get players hooked onto the game pre launch imo

 

Maybe because this game has a story line they didnt want to risk losing sales  ( would be like if you watched a movie before it was released then got offered to buy the movie )

 

That's a good point. Though, are they doing an early access? I didn't see that mentioned either, and that's something most games give to pre-orders as a perk.

  ktanner3

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7/21/11 3:51:42 PM#3

Not spoiling the story is one good reason. Another would be that they have more than enough people signed up to BETA test it and think that people just looking for a free ride aren't worth the effort. Sounds like a sound reason to me.

NGE killed SWG. Get over it like the rest of us did in 2005.

  yodablaze

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7/21/11 3:53:40 PM#4

Open beta would be a bad idea but beta access for pre-orders would have made sense.

  Kvasir_029

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7/21/11 3:54:34 PM#5
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by Grailer

Most open beta are just to get players hooked onto the game pre launch imo

 

Maybe because this game has a story line they didnt want to risk losing sales  ( would be like if you watched a movie before it was released then got offered to buy the movie )

 

That's a good point. Though, are they doing an early access? I didn't see that mentioned either, and that's something most games give to pre-orders as a perk.

They really don't need an open beta, due to the fact that they have well over 1 million beta testers apparently, which is more than enough to stress test the servers, etc. I would agree that giving away too much of the story would possibly sour it for some people. I know working my way through the story is what I'm looking forward to.

 

If you check the official site, yes they are offering early access to pre-order customers.

  Derros

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7/21/11 3:56:05 PM#6

Im gonna go with story spoilers, and when is the last time a real open beta was offered?  its always limited by codes and whatnot, they are just easier to get in some games than others.

 

If i did happen to get into beta, id be pressed to choose a class I had no interest in to save myself from spoilers.

  Anolev

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7/21/11 3:56:21 PM#7

Why would they give something away for free that they're already confident they can sell plenty of? 

 

Don't get me wrong - I agree that most open beta's are probably to build hype.  But it doesn't seem like they really need any more hype LOL.  They sold out of the CE on origin.com within hours... it's already #1 on the video game chart at Amazon, and it's just a PRE-order... yeah they don't need more hype.

  yodablaze

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7/21/11 3:57:09 PM#8

Well, they have it covered then. Pre-order... why not?

  Lidane

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7/21/11 3:57:24 PM#9
Originally posted by yodablaze

Open beta would be a bad idea but beta access for pre-orders would have made sense.

You mean like the beta weekends they're offering for pre-orders?

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/367/view/news/read/21264/Star-Wars-The-Old-Republic-Beta-Test-Weekends-this-September.html

  oakthornn

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7/21/11 3:58:37 PM#10

The most logical reason I have is also the most common sense reason..

SW:TOR will sell millions of copies.. The pre order will allow you to gain early access to the game.. This will unofficially be "open beta" for the game..

Why should Bioware open a dozen new servers just to allow a bunch of kids to sample a game they aren't sure they're even going to buy when there will be millions of people who will pre order the game??

Personally, I say reward those faithful people that will pre order SW:TOR as oppossed to those who are just trying it for kicks and giggles... Which is exactly what Bioware is doing.. And I say, hooorrrraaaa to them for being smart..

This is why there will be no open beta..

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  Vesavius

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7/21/11 4:02:49 PM#11
Originally posted by Grailer

Most open beta are just to get players hooked onto the game pre launch imo

 

Maybe because this game has a story line they didnt want to risk losing sales  ( would be like if you watched a movie before it was released then got offered to buy the movie )

 

To be fair they are having beta weekends, not unlike Rifts it seems, just before launch.

But, ofc, thats too late to give the people spunking £130 on the CE or whatever an informed opinion, but then maybe thats their fault for being sucked in on the hype and spin of yet another dev selling them another lacking game.

  tinuelle

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It's all about pushing the right buttons

7/21/11 4:06:28 PM#12

Reason for no open beta?

1. Avoid the F2P kiddos

2. Avoid F2P kiddos forumspamming

3. Avoid F2P kiddo bad community ingame grief-festival

  Creslin321

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7/21/11 4:07:44 PM#13
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Grailer

Most open beta are just to get players hooked onto the game pre launch imo

 

Maybe because this game has a story line they didnt want to risk losing sales  ( would be like if you watched a movie before it was released then got offered to buy the movie )

 

To be fair they are having beta weekends, not unlike Rifts it seems, just before launch.

But, ofc, thats too late to give the people spunking £130 on the CE or whatever an informed opinion, but then maybe thats their fault for being sucked in on the hype and spin of yet another dev selling them another lacking game.

 Yeah I think beta weekends are a fairly good "litmus test."  Hardcore players will accomplish a whole lot on just one weekend and will give the community an idea of how the game is.

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  waynejr2

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7/21/11 4:07:53 PM#14


Originally posted by oakthornn
The most logical reason I have is also the most common sense reason..
SW:TOR will sell millions of copies.. The pre order will allow you to gain early access to the game.. This will unofficially be "open beta" for the game..
Why should Bioware open a dozen new servers just to allow a bunch of kids to sample a game they aren't sure they're even going to buy when there will be millions of people who will pre order the game??

Yup. This is really just common sense.

  Creslin321

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7/21/11 4:08:42 PM#15
Originally posted by tinuelle

Reason for no open beta?

1. Avoid the F2P kiddos

2. Avoid F2P kiddos forumspamming

3. Avoid F2P kiddo bad community ingame grief-festival

 To a company trying to sell subscriptions...

"F2P Kiddo" = "Potential Customer"

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  tinuelle

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It's all about pushing the right buttons

7/21/11 4:18:13 PM#16
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by tinuelle

Reason for no open beta?

1. Avoid the F2P kiddos

2. Avoid F2P kiddos forumspamming

3. Avoid F2P kiddo bad community ingame grief-festival

 To a company trying to sell subscriptions...

"F2P Kiddo" = "Potential Customer"

Trust me, its gonna be some time before SWTOR goes F2P and "F2P Kiddo" = "Potential Customer"

But of course, when it goes F2P your statement is valid :)

  Buccaneer

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7/21/11 4:46:04 PM#17
Originally posted by tinuelle
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by tinuelle

Reason for no open beta?

1. Avoid the F2P kiddos

2. Avoid F2P kiddos forumspamming

3. Avoid F2P kiddo bad community ingame grief-festival

 To a company trying to sell subscriptions...

"F2P Kiddo" = "Potential Customer"

Trust me, its gonna be some time before SWTOR goes F2P and "F2P Kiddo" = "Potential Customer"

But of course, when it goes F2P your statement is valid :)

 I maybe wrong but I thought Creslin was suggesting the F2P kiddo can be converted to a paying (subs) customer.

  User Deleted
7/21/11 5:02:18 PM#18
Originally posted by Buccaneer
Originally posted by tinuelle
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by tinuelle

Reason for no open beta?

1. Avoid the F2P kiddos

2. Avoid F2P kiddos forumspamming

3. Avoid F2P kiddo bad community ingame grief-festival

 To a company trying to sell subscriptions...

"F2P Kiddo" = "Potential Customer"

Trust me, its gonna be some time before SWTOR goes F2P and "F2P Kiddo" = "Potential Customer"

But of course, when it goes F2P your statement is valid :)

 I maybe wrong but I thought Creslin was suggesting the F2P kiddo can be converted to a paying (subs) customer.

 "F2P Kiddos" don't sub to games.....that's WHY they are "F2P kiddos".

  Rinna

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Joined: 9/25/04
Posts: 233

7/21/11 5:08:36 PM#19

All I know is that after the response to the pre orders... they better launch with about 250 servers - or nobody will be playing lol. $150 bucks for the CE and Amazon sold out?  I thought Australia was going to drop nukes when they couldn't get the preorder right away.

No bitchers.

  JuJutsu

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Joined: 10/17/07
Posts: 334

7/21/11 5:20:30 PM#20
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by tinuelle

Reason for no open beta?

1. Avoid the F2P kiddos

2. Avoid F2P kiddos forumspamming

3. Avoid F2P kiddo bad community ingame grief-festival

 To a company trying to sell subscriptions...

"F2P Kiddo" = "Potential Customer"

 To a company trying to sell subscriptions...

"F2P Kiddo"="Arsehat-who-won't-buy-a-subscription but will drive off real potential customers"

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