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  Asellus

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Joined: 7/13/11
Posts: 11

 
OP  7/13/11 2:53:22 PM#1

Then I found out it's point-and-click...

 

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?  T ^T

 

And even knowing that, I'll STILL play it, that's a game for you.

 

I've grown tired of p&c games,

it just kills "realism" for me imho.

 

What about you lot?

Do you mind in the slightest ? or perhaps you prefer p&c-s ?

Do you think there is any future in dynamic combat mmorpgs?

 

Discuss!

  SelfDestructPro

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Joined: 3/14/08
Posts: 325

7/13/11 2:54:50 PM#2

As long as I can still move around with WSAD I'm fine.

  NIII

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Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 114

7/13/11 2:57:30 PM#3

Well, I guess that means you can't jump. Which puts it sorta in the same ship as Guild Wars to me. I don't say, hate point and click, hell, I can even be glued to the ground, so long as the world is big enough that I don't feel limited in exploration.

 

One thing I do not like about point and click though, is the fact that if you can't walk through enemies/other players, you have to try to walk around them, or find somewhere to click, and you end up clicking on them like eight times before you actually click on the ground, and when in combat you cant really be bothered with rotating your camera.

 

I'll still play it.

  alakram

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Joined: 11/02/06
Posts: 2240

7/13/11 2:58:46 PM#4
Originally posted by Asellus

Then I found out it's point-and-click...

 

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?  T ^T

 

And even knowing that, I'll STILL play it, that's a game for you.

 

I've grown tired of p&c games,

it just kills "realism" for me imho.

 

What about you lot?

Do you mind in the slightest ? or perhaps you prefer p&c-s ?

Do you think there is any future in dynamic combat mmorpgs?

 

Discuss!

You sure it's point and click? It never looked like that in all the videos I saw.

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  User Deleted
7/13/11 3:02:45 PM#5

Point and click is an option but there are standard movement controls and also jump, so in this regard it is like RoM.

  Ouriel

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Joined: 3/25/10
Posts: 72

7/13/11 3:03:23 PM#6

You really need to chill with that FPS targeting system in MMO's.

You were fine with it before, you can be fine with it now(talking about tab targeting).

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  Asellus

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Joined: 7/13/11
Posts: 11

 
OP  7/13/11 3:04:20 PM#7

Agreed

If the world is big enough, it won't be that big of an issue.

It'd be a shame to not make use of newer technology though.

I think this game could do well with a dynamic system.

 

Especially with bows and crossbows, this would so much more fun.

Problem with dynamic combat that I've seen is that it often make servers fairly unstable, but meh.

 

If they were to suddenly go for a more "realistic" approach, I wouldn't complain =P

 

@Joarnaj: I was thinking more in terms of combat,

although that would make point & click movement sorta akward I guess..

  Panther2103

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Joined: 1/09/08
Posts: 2128

7/13/11 3:04:49 PM#8

One post from the OP total, saying a popular upcoming title is point and click. Hmmm...

  Alot

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Posts: 1984

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7/13/11 3:05:14 PM#9
Originally posted by NIII

Well, I guess that means you can't jump. Which puts it sorta in the same ship as Guild Wars to me. I don't say, hate point and click, hell, I can even be glued to the ground, so long as the world is big enough that I don't feel limited in exploration.

You can jump, in fact. But according to a CB3 review it is indeed point and click.

  tshack88

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Joined: 12/02/06
Posts: 49

7/13/11 3:07:23 PM#10

You can jump, swim, climb in the game.  Go watch some videos before jumping to conclusions like that.

  Hachiro

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Joined: 5/02/10
Posts: 99

7/13/11 3:10:11 PM#11


Originally posted by tshack88
You can jump, swim, climb in the game.  Go watch some videos before jumping to conclusions like that.

OP never said anything about jumping, swimming and climbing...his main complaint is that it is point and lick.

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  Asellus

Novice Member

Joined: 7/13/11
Posts: 11

 
OP  7/13/11 3:19:39 PM#12

@tshack88:            ^

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  User Deleted
7/13/11 3:22:41 PM#13

you can customize your movement and ui to be whatever you're used to.

  Crim21

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Joined: 2/15/05
Posts: 11

7/13/11 7:25:38 PM#14

I just want to clarify since many replies misunderstood the OP.

point and click- refers to the targeting and combat system where you point your cursor at an enemy and click to target it.

 

this is what many of the replies are thinking of.

click to move- refers to clicking somewhere on the ground and your character moves to that spot. While AA does have click to move it is secondary to the wasd controls we are used to. Even wow has a click to move option.

 

while i would love to try AA with a fps targeting system like tera, I would perfer it use a proven system(point and click). There are only 2 mmos that i can think of that are using the fps aim system, one is TERA which isnt out yet and the other is an old game that i used to play called ryl.

  Asellus

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Joined: 7/13/11
Posts: 11

 
OP  7/13/11 8:47:10 PM#15
Originally posted by Crim21

I just want to clarify since many replies misunderstood the OP.

point and click- refers to the targeting and combat system where you point your cursor at an enemy and click to target it.

 

this is what many of the replies are thinking of.

click to move- refers to clicking somewhere on the ground and your character moves to that spot. While AA does have click to move it is secondary to the wasd controls we are used to. Even wow has a click to move option.

 

while i would love to try AA with a fps targeting system like tera, I would perfer it use a proven system(point and click). There are only 2 mmos that i can think of that are using the fps aim system, one is TERA which isnt out yet and the other is an old game that i used to play called ryl.

Thanks for the input,

I should have been a little clearer =]

  lizardbones

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7/13/11 9:44:26 PM#16

It really depends on the game. Some games just wouldn't work with point and click, but other games work very well with it. There's a game called Neo Steam which uses point and click and it works great.

With ArcheAge, considering all the non-combat activities that they seem to have lined up, it might work just fine.

** edit **
I misunderstood the OP - I was thinking click to move, not click to attack. Click to attack is even trickier to get right than click to move. I would honestly prefer the option of both tab targeting and click to attack, not one or the other.

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  Asellus

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Joined: 7/13/11
Posts: 11

 
OP  7/13/11 10:07:08 PM#17
Originally posted by lizardbones

It really depends on the game. Some games just wouldn't work with point and click, but other games work very well with it. There's a game called Neo Steam which uses point and click and it works great.

With ArcheAge, considering all the non-combat activities that they seem to have lined up, it might work just fine.

** edit **
I misunderstood the OP - I was thinking click to move, not click to attack. Click to attack is even trickier to get right than click to move. I would honestly prefer the option of both tab targeting and click to attack, not one or the other.

Having both tab-targeting and click-to attack/joystick would be awesome,

and I think it would help reel in a lot of  curious-but-uncertain people.

 

I know that many mmorpgs have strayed away from fps-style combat like the plague,

mainly because it's harder to implement, and there is not a huge market for it.

Still I think it would be awesome if they took the risk, and failed,

rather than abandoning a possibly epic feature.

 

Oh well..

As technology is in rapid growth,

I guess more and more companies will be eager to try new stuff .

  Crzyeyes

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Joined: 11/26/06
Posts: 17

7/13/11 11:05:38 PM#18

I think I'd be a little more comfortable with it if it was the traditional 3rd person mouse for camera + AWSD combo that works in so many games without the point-and-click combat.

 

Might work well for the game, though. Guess we'll see.

  Eyrothath

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Joined: 9/01/08
Posts: 198

7/14/11 1:29:06 PM#19

Age of Conan and Dungeons & Dragons are the only two games that have added in a tab targeting system correctly by removing auto-attack, but using 3rd person shooter over FPS, they still have targeting in the games, but you gotta use your mouse to swing your sword blows or like in Age of Conan you use keystrokes.. My whole beef with FPS/Third Person Shooter such as in Fallen Earth, Darkfall and Mortal Online and many other games is that you use the same keystroke for ANYTHING you do and you have to go in and out of combat by using this same keystroke as well and it "pauses your character" so anything you do such as looting, going into your inventory, shopping, requires a keystroke which pauses your character so you can bring your cursor, it can be annoying sometimes, but it is a system one gets use to.. The downside to DDO is that you can't manually block or dodge attacks, however, you are able to manually use your weapons on an enemy which makes it more immersive and fun, Age of Conan is the same way, a combat system I greatly enjoy, I can just swing at anything I want to at any time, in mid-air, I guess you can say Age of Conan cheated with their RTS combat system.. If WoW for example got rid of auto-attack and made it so you had to use keystrokes to use weapons, spells, etc, it would work for WoW or any other game for that matter without having to worry too much about technical issues..

  Katody

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Joined: 4/18/11
Posts: 30

7/20/11 11:29:25 PM#20

So no Tab targeting? I thought ArcheAge was like the "Ultimate New MMO 2011/2010"!!

I really hope you can customize the key mapping and UI to our liking.... I'm so picky.

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