Originally posted by kalaren
Maybe people should find out what happened themselves. From what I've read he was holding a contest on a server, caused a crash, too many people in 1 area. Went on to crash 2 more servers, got a message from a GM and only then wanted to stop. Unless I'm missing something, well deserved ban.

Exactly. Groups and guilds do events like this all the time and some are huge and more popular. There is more to the story and all we are getting is one side with one perspective.

Typical corporate reaction.

Customers inadvertantly break the service while acting fully within reasonable means, and the company blames the customers and even bans them from the service.

What's really sad is years back where people were purposefully trying to crash the server I was playing on, and succeeded, the worst they were ever hit with is a 3 hour suspension.

If this is true and he is unbanned, it speaks to the power of the consumer which as consumers and game players you should all applaud.

Originally posted by Turdinator

Someone I've never heard of got banned from Warcraft?  I'm filled with rage.

He has  701 908  views  on You Tube 19-07-11  

Originally posted by Renoaku

Okay i dont understand why he got banned for.

Honestly is blizzard is stupid, Ignorant, and seriously they are just getting more stupid every day, Well honestly really is there even any good Decent MMORPG Games, or game companies really made in the USA anymore, and I am not saying this as an attempt at trolling, or any of the such but as the truth, most games I find that are decent don't come from U.S.

Okay so Blizzard screwed up with Burning Crusade as a turning point, They really ruined it with release of Lich King, and now Cata which I didn't even both to buy due to how they really messed with the games talent and specs restricting my game play, I had 5 wow accounts.

World OF Warcraft was once my favorite game, but not anymore.

Okay that was a bit off topic, in response to the Video.

Anyways I don't get part of this video, Was this a Test Server, or a Live Realm?

Okay so here is what I do understand, You were hosting a live stream, and over 9000 People showed up in the same zone with you, or something, and the server crashed due to this, How is this Swifty's fault because a server crashed, so what restart the server who cares? Also this wasn't his fault maybe if he had logged into every account and did it from the same IP address, but it was everyone's fault who was in the same guild and simply there, and everyone else who show up as well Blizzard, Please ban all of them too then.

Oh wait Blizzard just want's someone to blame for this right. Well You know what You should file an appeal anyways and explain to them, and hoenstly I am glad I quit WOW, I hope this tells everyone else they should quit too, and go play Runes OF Magic, Its free and better than wow anyways.

1. Blizzard should have put in restrictions to prevent this, and possible server crashes for example limits on how many people can enter a zone?

2. Blizzard Should not have been using Intel Processors.

3. Blizzard needs better servers?

4. the server hamster died and they didn't have a backup hamster. It was also at night so they couldn't go to petsmart to get a new hamster. But we need to give Blizzard a break, keeping that many hamsters alive and running on their wheels is hard work.

Originally posted by VikingGamer

Originally posted by Renoaku

Okay i dont understand why he got banned for.

Honestly is blizzard is stupid, Ignorant, and seriously they are just getting more stupid every day, Well honestly really is there even any good Decent MMORPG Games, or game companies really made in the USA anymore, and I am not saying this as an attempt at trolling, or any of the such but as the truth, most games I find that are decent don't come from U.S.

Okay so Blizzard screwed up with Burning Crusade as a turning point, They really ruined it with release of Lich King, and now Cata which I didn't even both to buy due to how they really messed with the games talent and specs restricting my game play, I had 5 wow accounts.

World OF Warcraft was once my favorite game, but not anymore.

Okay that was a bit off topic, in response to the Video.

Anyways I don't get part of this video, Was this a Test Server, or a Live Realm?

Okay so here is what I do understand, You were hosting a live stream, and over 9000 People showed up in the same zone with you, or something, and the server crashed due to this, How is this Swifty's fault because a server crashed, so what restart the server who cares? Also this wasn't his fault maybe if he had logged into every account and did it from the same IP address, but it was everyone's fault who was in the same guild and simply there, and everyone else who show up as well Blizzard, Please ban all of them too then.

Oh wait Blizzard just want's someone to blame for this right. Well You know what You should file an appeal anyways and explain to them, and hoenstly I am glad I quit WOW, I hope this tells everyone else they should quit too, and go play Runes OF Magic, Its free and better than wow anyways.

1. Blizzard should have put in restrictions to prevent this, and possible server crashes for example limits on how many people can enter a zone?

2. Blizzard Should not have been using Intel Processors.

3. Blizzard needs better servers?

4. the server hamster died and they didn't have a backup hamster. It was also at night so they couldn't go to petsmart to get a new hamster. But we need to give Blizzard a break, keeping that many hamsters alive and running on their wheels is hard work.

I am shock no one quoted you but me, funny post.

He is now unbanned we can all sleep now guys!!

I'm joining the group asking who this Swifty person is.

ANd this as a person who's been with WoW since the european launch.

Yeah I have no clue who Swify is.

A perma-ban for an accidental first time offense is obviously too much.  If he has a long history of offenses, but this was accidental, 30 days would have been fine.

Blizzard usually doesnt have the balls to do what is right with bans.  I see known griefers still playing the next day.  Intentionally disrupting someones gameplay should be a 7 day ban first offense, 30 day ban 2nd and 3rd offense, permaban after that.  It would make the game a much better place.  But Blizzard is too concerned with negative feedback (partly because I have NEVER seen a community so full of sheep in my life) to do the right thing in most cases.

It was a stupid move on Blizzards part, and they corrected it.

No I do not know Switfy but a lot of people did, so it made "news"

I am sure we have all know people in game that were "famous" good or bad.

For me, EQ1 a bard named Fancy that trained everyone comes to mind, or a gnome named Nizmo(sp?) that made funny vedios.

Point being just becuase you never heard of them does not make them any less "famous" to their followers.

while i dont play WoW... nor do i know who this person is (i did watch the OP link) it seems like blizzard did a correct call yet an incorrect call. 

my guess is they automatically assumed the vast number of people during their little event was designed to crash the servers. so they banned him for being the ring leader or what they assumed was the ring leader. 

so in that regard they are correct in banning him, if his intent was to crash and disrupt the players server/enjoyment of the game. as im sure there are more then 5k people playing on that server so the crash will have effected more then just the people at the little event. 

but at the same time.. he should not have been banned for this.. (ill take liberty and assume he did not intend to crash the server, as i cant read his mind this is all speculation) his event was designed to promote fun and enjoyment of the game. which blizzard should have wanted, the fact it crashed the server says alot about blizzards server networking clusters and server stability  given the age and profititablity of WoW blizzard should have had stable enough servers to handle this many congurant connections in one location. it seems to me blizzard used him as a scape goat for their own poor server networks.

ofcourse this is all speculation. we do not know what he was planning in his mind, publically he has stated it was a fun event (devils advicate that may or may not be true. only he knows) blizzard blames him for it so as its their game they removed him. even if he did not intend to do it. 

tin-hatting this subject you could claim blizzard was out to get him and when he ran his event, they pulled the plug on the server to crash it and blame him. 

only he and blizzard know both sides, while it doesnt matter to me if he is at fault or not. this is a very interesting topic. as it could be used for more griefing means later on if blizzard does not correct their servers.

though they do not have to reinsate his account if they do not wish to, as per their EULA and such... their game, their rules.. if they dont want you to play ... you wont be...

as a gamer, hopefully he gets it sorted and either gets his account back or gets this delt with, as it sounds pretty harsh reguardless if he did or did not mean to crash a server.

Originally posted by teakbois

Yeah I have no clue who Swify is.

 

A perma-ban for an accidental first time offense is obviously too much.  If he has a long history of offenses, but this was accidental, 30 days would have been fine.

 

Blizzard usually doesnt have the balls to do what is right with bans.  I see known griefers still playing the next day.  Intentionally disrupting someones gameplay should be a 7 day ban first offense, 30 day ban 2nd and 3rd offense, permaban after that.  It would make the game a much better place.  But Blizzard is too concerned with negative feedback (partly because I have NEVER seen a community so full of sheep in my life) to do the right thing in most cases.

 From what I understand it was 3 servers...they crashed one moved to another crashed that and so on.  Supposedly his event was playing havoc and some others jumped in to crash the 2nd and 3rd server.  Because it was Swifty's event he got the blame.

Originally posted by Ichmen

while i dont play WoW... nor do i know who this person is (i did watch the OP link) it seems like blizzard did a correct call yet an incorrect call. 

my guess is they automatically assumed the vast number of people during their little event was designed to crash the servers. so they banned him for being the ring leader or what they assumed was the ring leader. 

so in that regard they are correct in banning him, if his intent was to crash and disrupt the players server/enjoyment of the game. as im sure there are more then 5k people playing on that server so the crash will have effected more then just the people at the little event. 

but at the same time.. he should not have been banned for this.. (ill take liberty and assume he did not intend to crash the server, as i cant read his mind this is all speculation) his event was designed to promote fun and enjoyment of the game. which blizzard should have wanted, the fact it crashed the server says alot about blizzards server networking clusters and server stability  given the age and profititablity of WoW blizzard should have had stable enough servers to handle this many congurant connections in one location. it seems to me blizzard used him as a scape goat for their own poor server networks.

ofcourse this is all speculation. we do not know what he was planning in his mind, publically he has stated it was a fun event (devils advicate that may or may not be true. only he knows) blizzard blames him for it so as its their game they removed him. even if he did not intend to do it. 

tin-hatting this subject you could claim blizzard was out to get him and when he ran his event, they pulled the plug on the server to crash it and blame him. 

only he and blizzard know both sides, while it doesnt matter to me if he is at fault or not. this is a very interesting topic. as it could be used for more griefing means later on if blizzard does not correct their servers.

 

though they do not have to reinsate his account if they do not wish to, as per their EULA and such... their game, their rules.. if they dont want you to play ... you wont be...

 

as a gamer, hopefully he gets it sorted and either gets his account back or gets this delt with, as it sounds pretty harsh reguardless if he did or did not mean to crash a server.

 He got his account back with the condition that he control his events or gets sanction from Blizzard for them.

Originally posted by Ichmen

while i dont play WoW... nor do i know who this person is (i did watch the OP link) it seems like blizzard did a correct call yet an incorrect call. 

my guess is they automatically assumed the vast number of people during their little event was designed to crash the servers. so they banned him for being the ring leader or what they assumed was the ring leader. 

so in that regard they are correct in banning him, if his intent was to crash and disrupt the players server/enjoyment of the game. as im sure there are more then 5k people playing on that server so the crash will have effected more then just the people at the little event. 

but at the same time.. he should not have been banned for this.. (ill take liberty and assume he did not intend to crash the server, as i cant read his mind this is all speculation) his event was designed to promote fun and enjoyment of the game. which blizzard should have wanted, the fact it crashed the server says alot about blizzards server networking clusters and server stability  given the age and profititablity of WoW blizzard should have had stable enough servers to handle this many congurant connections in one location. it seems to me blizzard used him as a scape goat for their own poor server networks.

ofcourse this is all speculation. we do not know what he was planning in his mind, publically he has stated it was a fun event (devils advicate that may or may not be true. only he knows) blizzard blames him for it so as its their game they removed him. even if he did not intend to do it. 

tin-hatting this subject you could claim blizzard was out to get him and when he ran his event, they pulled the plug on the server to crash it and blame him. 

only he and blizzard know both sides, while it doesnt matter to me if he is at fault or not. this is a very interesting topic. as it could be used for more griefing means later on if blizzard does not correct their servers.

 

though they do not have to reinsate his account if they do not wish to, as per their EULA and such... their game, their rules.. if they dont want you to play ... you wont be...

 

as a gamer, hopefully he gets it sorted and either gets his account back or gets this delt with, as it sounds pretty harsh reguardless if he did or did not mean to crash a server.

Pretty harsh if he did do it? Sounds more like fitting If you would ask me.

Originally posted by DanMcC

Originally posted by naraku209

Originally posted by grunty

Originally posted by nhavas

Yeah... uh... What's a swifty?

Someone able to create 3,000 likes and 1,000 dislikes for a video that only 300 people have looked at.

 you do know that it doesn't update immediatly when it comes to views right?

I don't know what a Swifty is either.

If you guys can't figure out what a Swifty is after viewing the video, then no one will be able to explain it to you. I imagine you guys are purposely being dim in an attempt to prove that you don't care who he is. If you don't like the thread, or could care less, don't click it. Why read the thread, then make a comment about not knowing what a Swifty is when its right in the link? There are only two possible explanations.

Originally posted by Golelorn

Originally posted by DanMcC

Originally posted by naraku209

Originally posted by grunty

Originally posted by nhavas

Yeah... uh... What's a swifty?

Someone able to create 3,000 likes and 1,000 dislikes for a video that only 300 people have looked at.

 you do know that it doesn't update immediatly when it comes to views right?

I don't know what a Swifty is either.

If you guys can't figure out what a Swifty is after viewing the video, then no one will be able to explain it to you. I imagine you guys are purposely being dim in an attempt to prove that you don't care who he is. If you don't like the thread, or could care less, don't click it. Why read the thread, then make a comment about not knowing what a Swifty is when its right in the link? There are only two possible explanations.

ER perhaps because we don't click random links in threads or even watch You-Tube videos?  Maybe someone will take the time to give a short history/synopsis of who Swifty is and why the heck we should care?

I saw someone that needs serious therapeutic help.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Golelorn

Originally posted by DanMcC

Originally posted by naraku209

Originally posted by grunty

Originally posted by nhavas

Yeah... uh... What's a swifty?

Someone able to create 3,000 likes and 1,000 dislikes for a video that only 300 people have looked at.

 you do know that it doesn't update immediatly when it comes to views right?

I don't know what a Swifty is either.

If you guys can't figure out what a Swifty is after viewing the video, then no one will be able to explain it to you. I imagine you guys are purposely being dim in an attempt to prove that you don't care who he is. If you don't like the thread, or could care less, don't click it. Why read the thread, then make a comment about not knowing what a Swifty is when its right in the link? There are only two possible explanations.

ER perhaps because we don't click random links in threads or even watch You-Tube videos?  Maybe someone will take the time to give a short history/synopsis of who Swifty is and why the heck we should care?

Good show as always Kyleran.

You managed to nail the issue spot-on.

(Oh and whatever happened to soft linebreaks, can't even drop down a line without making this huge gap.)

So.....how about the other people on the servers then? What about the guys that were in the middle of a raid when Mr Famous crashed them with his event?

Just saying :).

Still......don't know who the guy is.

But in all fairness, this is why CCP asks you to announce a fleetwar to them, so they can move the area into its own cluster.

Originally posted by Kapazo

 

Swifty got banned from WoW. I's it right?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-DFfBUA6vM

 

 

"Swifty’s a devoted game tester, testing games that are on closed betas and usually always testing and experimenting to find ways to excel in any game. Today, he makes tutorial videos with the strategies and secrets he finds in the games,  releases them in videos that he posts on YouTube (www.youtube.com/johnsju).

His goal? To help others become better at games through his tutorial videos. He gets great satisfaction when he gets feedback from players who have had great success in games as a result."