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7/18/11 5:12:38 AM#21
I don't know much about the lore beyond the blogpost, but I'd definitely like the Kodan to be a playable race. |
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7/18/11 8:31:37 AM#22
In all fairness this is just a forum post about hwat could happen i there are expansions or just saying what we would have thought to be cool to appear in the game, so if it was an expansion then they would have had the time to make all the armor sets for the new race, its not a question of that were just having a nice fun discussion about the races we know and would like to play. |
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I could see Tengu coming into play with a Canthan and Centaurs and Forgotten with an Elonan campaign.
Hell, maybe there would even be a campaign specializing in the crystal desert, which would only open up the forgotten for even more obvious inclusion, assuming they haven't been almost or completely wiped out of existence by Palawa Joko.
Mursaat seem to be a race that is more difficult to work in. They were shown only in Tyria, which is the established setting of GW's initial campaign. Unless they add more to Tyria or re-explore Tyria like they did with EotN, Mursaat are unlikely, even though I want them badly.
Naga seem like they could be persuaded to ally with the other races in response to the Krait (or to Zhaitan or other water-inhabiting dragons), though given that the Naga seem exclusive to Cantha, this would involve migration of either the krait or the naga.
And then we have the not-so-likely races (mostly miscellanious ones):
Quaggan Warden (their role is pretty much covered by Sylvari) Dredge (eh, who knows) Stone dwarves |
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7/18/11 9:04:45 AM#24
Originally posted by Dream_Chaser Not to get into GW1 spoilers, but I'm not even sure the White Mantle are evil, seeing as how they were just trying to prevent what ultimately happened. Though if you take the position that a prophecy is going to happen regardless of anyone's actions (and in this case was probably self-fulfilling, seeing as how their actions to prevent it caused you to turn on them), they probably should have just left well enough alone. |
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7/18/11 10:06:32 AM#25
What I was getting at though is that knowing that the prophecies would come to pass, I think the protection racket was bull, and just that - a protection racket. The Mursaat being in on it, of course. So what you happened was the White Mantle using the Mursaat to instill fear over the populace, thus giving them control over all those afraid people, and offering sacrifices to the Murssat to keep them 'powered up.' The Mursaat may be similar to vampires; They're addicted to the power of life but they can't get it easily for themselves, they need a proxy to provide them with it. And the White Mantle used that angle to get the Mursaat under their thumb. Then they spun the idea of needinig the power of their 'Mursaat gods' in order to provide protection and safety. Really, I see the White Mantle as being almost exactly the same as the Flame Legion, both using false gods for power. So I'm absolutely convinced that--as I am with the Flame Legion--the White Mantle aren't nice people and that everything they did they did willingly. Not to protect people, that was just a racket, but to attain and secure power for themselves. This is something that the Shining Blade seemed to feel, too. And really, if the Mursaat are just like vampires and the White Mantle were providing them with a secure stream of life energies, then it might have just been the White Mantle taking advantage of the Mursaat, whereas normally the Mursaat are happy to just ekke off whatever life energies they can without a proxy. (But given a better energy source they'll take it, of course.) We don't know that this isn't the case and, like I said, everything I saw seemed to be less the Mursaat being evil but more perhaps being desperate. The leadership of the White Mantle however did seem out and out evil. I think he and the Flame Legion Imperator would get on like a house on fire. --- Also consider that our only real source of information about the Mursaat was the Forgotten. And the lore pretty much says that the Forgotten were tyrannical bastards before their downfall who tried to round up and brainwash the races of Tyria into worshipping the Six. The charr were having none of that of course and beat them out of their lands, but they kept it up until their fal. So the Forgotten were also not nice people, and I wouldn't trust one as far as I could throw one. So any information we got from the Forgotten about the Mursaat may very well be incredibly unreliable. |
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7/18/11 9:20:43 PM#26
Cats and Dogs |
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FlawSGI
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7/18/11 9:31:56 PM#27
I know the dwarves were all turned to stone but it would be nice if they spun some lore to bring them back somehow. Maybe if they came back they can teach the world to use 2 handed axes and we can have those as well >.>. Game feels weird without muh big nasty swinging for the fences and dwarves are a pretty good pillar race for most games. The races they have now are pretty diverse but I'd like to see em in there. Feels like there is an empty spot without the lil sturdy turds. RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray. |
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7/19/11 8:44:01 AM#28
@FlawSGI Nothing against dwarves m'self so I'd like to see them, too. In fact, the dwarves of Guild Wars were actually one of the more pleasant races to be around. Anyway, there are dwarves left, just not the dwarves we fought alongside. The Stone Summit dwarves (the once bad guy types) might have a change of heart and decide that there's something worthwhile about us after all and join our ranks. The only problem there though is that they wouldn't actually be stoneform dwarves, they'd just be dwarves. The thing with stoneform dwarves is that they become a statue after X amount of time in their stoneform and once they've changed to it they can't revert. So even if we did get the Stone Summit on our side (everyone gets tired of warring eventually) they'd still just be normal dwarves instead of stone dwarves. |
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FlawSGI
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7/19/11 11:43:00 AM#29
Originally posted by Dream_Chaser Hmm.. I'll be honest here... I don't know enough about the lore to give a more thought out responce on races. I have the GW games minus the last expansion, but I haven't been able to play through them. I have the 2 novels, but I am trying to finish the Wheel of Time story before reading through the 2 books I bought. Thanx for the info Dream cause I wasn't aware of who the stone dwarves were. I assumed they were called that cause of a curse. But I'd take just regular dwarves over no dwarves. Or hey, maybe there can be a bit of a lore twist where the gods give us a way to revert them back or give them a chance to shine again. Either way thanx for that lore info, let's me know I have a lot to learn before the next game hits. RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray. |
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7/19/11 11:49:35 AM#30
I thought it would be cool if there was a Wilferd type dog race. =) In every game. |
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7/19/11 7:40:31 PM#31
QUAGGAN! They're amazing. |
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Zeroxin
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My words are not here to sway you,they are here to make you understand. |
7/19/11 7:42:56 PM#32
The Tengu. They could have made Centaurs playable but they just couldn't figure out how to make them swim lol. This is not a game. |
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7/19/11 8:53:41 PM#33
Tengu, by a longshot. |
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7/19/11 10:00:42 PM#34
Tengu and Kodan. Love me my beastial races.
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7/19/11 11:20:37 PM#35
Buddhist Polar Bears :) Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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7/20/11 5:16:33 AM#36
Originally posted by norny Although they would not make any sense. |
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7/20/11 5:29:14 AM#37
Tengu - makes sense Hylek - makes sense as well since players will venture into water as well. Guess what would be their swimming animation...hehehe Quaggan - impossible, devs said they are the one race being always friendly and never taking arms. Krait - these guys on the other hand are always evil so they would be at odds with every other single race. Centaur - impossible. Swimming animation would be beyond stupid and for balance reasons they would have to have same run speed as players which is....well....try running as fast as horse;p Kodan - possible Skritt - highly unlikely. They are dumb beyond belief when solo. They only get smarter in groups. Think cranium rats from PS:T Naga - very unlikely, they aren't liked enough to warrant introduction as playable race. Stone Dwarfs - they lost all that made them and hteir only purpose is fighting destroyers. ANet doomed them for a reason - too generic. The rest aren't significant enough. |
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FlawSGI
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Joined: 8/14/10
All of history is a lie. The truth depends on who does the listening, and who does the telling... |
7/20/11 4:26:10 PM#38
Originally posted by wojtekpl Man, way to piss on my Cheerios........ You coulda just gave an answer.... way to kill the room...... /sigh well thought out responce though. RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray. |