Originally posted by sidhaethe

It says that you're rather eager to pick and choose whom you would take as an example of a group of people who only have one interest in common.

No just proving a point, as you're right a few sour apples means nothing in the overall scheme of things. Not saying the guy I quoted is a sour apple, as he said himself he shouldn't have wrote what he did, and to ignore it.

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

So what you are telling me is, Arathi Basin, Scenarios, Warzones, etc aren't Instances? Wintergrasp isn't an instance (when it's in session)?  I call it an instance for the fact that, you are not freely walking around the world and encounter people. It's ONLY this "zone/instance" that you can PvP in.  Great, you can Join/leave anytime you wish.  But it's still a "port" to get there.  You are not doing everyday normal quests anywhere in the world (except starter areas!) and running into someone from another world.

BGs, Scenarios, Warzones, whatever you want to call them, those are instances. Have you ever noticed that you are automatically put into a group when you enter one? That's what the queue is for, you have to wait for a group to be put together. That won't happen in WvWvW because its not an instance. You can freely walk around and meet people in WvWvW as there is no player cap. Just because its a dedicated PvP area doesn't mean it an instance. Remember PvP lakes in WAR? Those weren't instanced and those were dedicated PvP areas. Porting to WvWvW has nothing to do with it either.

They aren't instances. That's that. Stop grasping for arguments.

 

You leave your server and enter an INSTANCE for WvWvW.  It is not taking place in the normal game world.  Get over it.  

Never said it was the normal game world. Reading comprehension FTW.

I never said that you said it was the normal game world.  Reading comprehension FTW.  

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

So what you are telling me is, Arathi Basin, Scenarios, Warzones, etc aren't Instances? Wintergrasp isn't an instance (when it's in session)?  I call it an instance for the fact that, you are not freely walking around the world and encounter people. It's ONLY this "zone/instance" that you can PvP in.  Great, you can Join/leave anytime you wish.  But it's still a "port" to get there.  You are not doing everyday normal quests anywhere in the world (except starter areas!) and running into someone from another world.

BGs, Scenarios, Warzones, whatever you want to call them, those are instances. Have you ever noticed that you are automatically put into a group when you enter one? That's what the queue is for, you have to wait for a group to be put together. That won't happen in WvWvW because its not an instance. You can freely walk around and meet people in WvWvW as there is no player cap. Just because its a dedicated PvP area doesn't mean it an instance. Remember PvP lakes in WAR? Those weren't instanced and those were dedicated PvP areas. Porting to WvWvW has nothing to do with it either.

They aren't instances. That's that. Stop grasping for arguments.

 

You leave your server and enter an INSTANCE for WvWvW.  It is not taking place in the normal game world.  Get over it.  

Never said it was the normal game world. Reading comprehension FTW.

I never said that you said it was the normal game world.  Reading comprehension FTW.  

You implied I was. My point still stands, if its an instance then prove it.

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

So what you are telling me is, Arathi Basin, Scenarios, Warzones, etc aren't Instances? Wintergrasp isn't an instance (when it's in session)?  I call it an instance for the fact that, you are not freely walking around the world and encounter people. It's ONLY this "zone/instance" that you can PvP in.  Great, you can Join/leave anytime you wish.  But it's still a "port" to get there.  You are not doing everyday normal quests anywhere in the world (except starter areas!) and running into someone from another world.

BGs, Scenarios, Warzones, whatever you want to call them, those are instances. Have you ever noticed that you are automatically put into a group when you enter one? That's what the queue is for, you have to wait for a group to be put together. That won't happen in WvWvW because its not an instance. You can freely walk around and meet people in WvWvW as there is no player cap. Just because its a dedicated PvP area doesn't mean it an instance. Remember PvP lakes in WAR? Those weren't instanced and those were dedicated PvP areas. Porting to WvWvW has nothing to do with it either.

They aren't instances. That's that. Stop grasping for arguments.

 

You leave your server and enter an INSTANCE for WvWvW.  It is not taking place in the normal game world.  Get over it.  

Never said it was the normal game world. Reading comprehension FTW.

I never said that you said it was the normal game world.  Reading comprehension FTW.  

You implied I was. My point still stands, if its an instance then prove it.

Perhaps the problem is that you have no idea what an instance is...  "If you want to have a civilised and intelligent conversation on it then please do your research I hate arguing and conversing with the uninformed or idiots."  How beautifully ironic.

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

So what you are telling me is, Arathi Basin, Scenarios, Warzones, etc aren't Instances? Wintergrasp isn't an instance (when it's in session)?  I call it an instance for the fact that, you are not freely walking around the world and encounter people. It's ONLY this "zone/instance" that you can PvP in.  Great, you can Join/leave anytime you wish.  But it's still a "port" to get there.  You are not doing everyday normal quests anywhere in the world (except starter areas!) and running into someone from another world.

BGs, Scenarios, Warzones, whatever you want to call them, those are instances. Have you ever noticed that you are automatically put into a group when you enter one? That's what the queue is for, you have to wait for a group to be put together. That won't happen in WvWvW because its not an instance. You can freely walk around and meet people in WvWvW as there is no player cap. Just because its a dedicated PvP area doesn't mean it an instance. Remember PvP lakes in WAR? Those weren't instanced and those were dedicated PvP areas. Porting to WvWvW has nothing to do with it either.

They aren't instances. That's that. Stop grasping for arguments.

 

You leave your server and enter an INSTANCE for WvWvW.  It is not taking place in the normal game world.  Get over it.  

Never said it was the normal game world. Reading comprehension FTW.

I never said that you said it was the normal game world.  Reading comprehension FTW.  

You implied I was. My point still stands, if its an instance then prove it.

Quite easy to prove it's not an instance, by the way: if you can enter without being in a group, and form a group within WvWvW, it's not an instance. If I enter, and you enter, ungrouped with me, two minutes later, and we can both see each other, it's not an instance.

This is, in point of fact, the case with WvWvW.

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

So what you are telling me is, Arathi Basin, Scenarios, Warzones, etc aren't Instances? Wintergrasp isn't an instance (when it's in session)?  I call it an instance for the fact that, you are not freely walking around the world and encounter people. It's ONLY this "zone/instance" that you can PvP in.  Great, you can Join/leave anytime you wish.  But it's still a "port" to get there.  You are not doing everyday normal quests anywhere in the world (except starter areas!) and running into someone from another world.

BGs, Scenarios, Warzones, whatever you want to call them, those are instances. Have you ever noticed that you are automatically put into a group when you enter one? That's what the queue is for, you have to wait for a group to be put together. That won't happen in WvWvW because its not an instance. You can freely walk around and meet people in WvWvW as there is no player cap. Just because its a dedicated PvP area doesn't mean it an instance. Remember PvP lakes in WAR? Those weren't instanced and those were dedicated PvP areas. Porting to WvWvW has nothing to do with it either.

They aren't instances. That's that. Stop grasping for arguments.

 

You leave your server and enter an INSTANCE for WvWvW.  It is not taking place in the normal game world.  Get over it.  

Never said it was the normal game world. Reading comprehension FTW.

I never said that you said it was the normal game world.  Reading comprehension FTW.  

You implied I was. My point still stands, if its an instance then prove it.

Perhaps the problem is that you have no idea what an instance is...  "If you want to have a civilised and intelligent conversation on it then please do your research I hate arguing and conversing with the uninformed or idiots."  How beautifully ironic.

Definition: A segment of gameplay in MMORPGs in which players form a group together and enter a special area in the game world, usually through some type of portal. They are then essentially cut off from the rest of the gamers in that only people who are in the group when the group passes through the portal will be able to enter the dungeon with them. Other groups may enter the dungeon, but will not encounter the first group, hence they are in a different INSTANCE of the same dungeon.

http://geekdictionary.computing.net/define/instance

Seeing as this doesn't happen in WvWvW, I guess it's not an instance. Thanks for your concern though.

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

So what you are telling me is, Arathi Basin, Scenarios, Warzones, etc aren't Instances? Wintergrasp isn't an instance (when it's in session)?  I call it an instance for the fact that, you are not freely walking around the world and encounter people. It's ONLY this "zone/instance" that you can PvP in.  Great, you can Join/leave anytime you wish.  But it's still a "port" to get there.  You are not doing everyday normal quests anywhere in the world (except starter areas!) and running into someone from another world.

BGs, Scenarios, Warzones, whatever you want to call them, those are instances. Have you ever noticed that you are automatically put into a group when you enter one? That's what the queue is for, you have to wait for a group to be put together. That won't happen in WvWvW because its not an instance. You can freely walk around and meet people in WvWvW as there is no player cap. Just because its a dedicated PvP area doesn't mean it an instance. Remember PvP lakes in WAR? Those weren't instanced and those were dedicated PvP areas. Porting to WvWvW has nothing to do with it either.

They aren't instances. That's that. Stop grasping for arguments.

 

You leave your server and enter an INSTANCE for WvWvW.  It is not taking place in the normal game world.  Get over it.  

Never said it was the normal game world. Reading comprehension FTW.

I never said that you said it was the normal game world.  Reading comprehension FTW.  

You implied I was. My point still stands, if its an instance then prove it.

Perhaps the problem is that you have no idea what an instance is...  "If you want to have a civilised and intelligent conversation on it then please do your research I hate arguing and conversing with the uninformed or idiots."  How beautifully ironic.

 

Instance

Definition: A segment of gameplay in MMORPGs in which players form a group together and enter a special area in the game world, usually through some type of portal. They are then essentially cut off from the rest of the gamers in that only people who are in the group when the group passes through the portal will be able to enter the dungeon with them. Other groups may enter the dungeon, but will not encounter the first group, hence they are in a different INSTANCE of the same dungeon.

http://geekdictionary.computing.net/define/instance

Seeing as this doesn't happen in WvWvW, I guess it's not an instance. Thanks for your concern though.

Still an instance.  This lame definition (that I knew you would go search for) stupidly ties "grouping" to an instance, as if you couldn't enter an instance solo.

Keep trying, but you'll still be wrong.

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

So what you are telling me is, Arathi Basin, Scenarios, Warzones, etc aren't Instances? Wintergrasp isn't an instance (when it's in session)?  I call it an instance for the fact that, you are not freely walking around the world and encounter people. It's ONLY this "zone/instance" that you can PvP in.  Great, you can Join/leave anytime you wish.  But it's still a "port" to get there.  You are not doing everyday normal quests anywhere in the world (except starter areas!) and running into someone from another world.

BGs, Scenarios, Warzones, whatever you want to call them, those are instances. Have you ever noticed that you are automatically put into a group when you enter one? That's what the queue is for, you have to wait for a group to be put together. That won't happen in WvWvW because its not an instance. You can freely walk around and meet people in WvWvW as there is no player cap. Just because its a dedicated PvP area doesn't mean it an instance. Remember PvP lakes in WAR? Those weren't instanced and those were dedicated PvP areas. Porting to WvWvW has nothing to do with it either.

They aren't instances. That's that. Stop grasping for arguments.

 

You leave your server and enter an INSTANCE for WvWvW.  It is not taking place in the normal game world.  Get over it.  

Never said it was the normal game world. Reading comprehension FTW.

I never said that you said it was the normal game world.  Reading comprehension FTW.  

You implied I was. My point still stands, if its an instance then prove it.

Perhaps the problem is that you have no idea what an instance is...  "If you want to have a civilised and intelligent conversation on it then please do your research I hate arguing and conversing with the uninformed or idiots."  How beautifully ironic.

 

Instance

Definition: A segment of gameplay in MMORPGs in which players form a group together and enter a special area in the game world, usually through some type of portal. They are then essentially cut off from the rest of the gamers in that only people who are in the group when the group passes through the portal will be able to enter the dungeon with them. Other groups may enter the dungeon, but will not encounter the first group, hence they are in a different INSTANCE of the same dungeon.

http://geekdictionary.computing.net/define/instance

Seeing as this doesn't happen in WvWvW, I guess it's not an instance. Thanks for your concern though.

Still an instance.  This lame definition (that I knew you would go search for) stupidly ties "grouping" to an instance, as if you couldn't enter an instance solo.

Keep trying, but you'll still be wrong.

Oh I know you can enter an instance solo, but the definition is still right. When you enter an instance you are either alone or only with your group.

Thats not the case with WvWvW. You see everybody that decides to enter.

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

So what you are telling me is, Arathi Basin, Scenarios, Warzones, etc aren't Instances? Wintergrasp isn't an instance (when it's in session)?  I call it an instance for the fact that, you are not freely walking around the world and encounter people. It's ONLY this "zone/instance" that you can PvP in.  Great, you can Join/leave anytime you wish.  But it's still a "port" to get there.  You are not doing everyday normal quests anywhere in the world (except starter areas!) and running into someone from another world.

BGs, Scenarios, Warzones, whatever you want to call them, those are instances. Have you ever noticed that you are automatically put into a group when you enter one? That's what the queue is for, you have to wait for a group to be put together. That won't happen in WvWvW because its not an instance. You can freely walk around and meet people in WvWvW as there is no player cap. Just because its a dedicated PvP area doesn't mean it an instance. Remember PvP lakes in WAR? Those weren't instanced and those were dedicated PvP areas. Porting to WvWvW has nothing to do with it either.

They aren't instances. That's that. Stop grasping for arguments.

 

You leave your server and enter an INSTANCE for WvWvW.  It is not taking place in the normal game world.  Get over it.  

Never said it was the normal game world. Reading comprehension FTW.

I never said that you said it was the normal game world.  Reading comprehension FTW.  

You implied I was. My point still stands, if its an instance then prove it.

Perhaps the problem is that you have no idea what an instance is...  "If you want to have a civilised and intelligent conversation on it then please do your research I hate arguing and conversing with the uninformed or idiots."  How beautifully ironic.

 

Instance

Definition: A segment of gameplay in MMORPGs in which players form a group together and enter a special area in the game world, usually through some type of portal. They are then essentially cut off from the rest of the gamers in that only people who are in the group when the group passes through the portal will be able to enter the dungeon with them. Other groups may enter the dungeon, but will not encounter the first group, hence they are in a different INSTANCE of the same dungeon.

http://geekdictionary.computing.net/define/instance

Seeing as this doesn't happen in WvWvW, I guess it's not an instance. Thanks for your concern though.

Still an instance.  This lame definition (that I knew you would go search for) stupidly ties "grouping" to an instance, as if you couldn't enter an instance solo.

Keep trying, but you'll still be wrong.

You can enter it solo, and still see someone else who has also entered it solo. There is no definition of instance that applies to that scenario.

I'm happy for you, and I'ma let you finish, but you simply don't get to make your own definitions for words. You are not the dictionary, and if you repeat an untruth long enough, it won't become true. I'm going to go ahead and report you for trolling, though, because this has gone on long enough.

Originally posted by sidhaethe

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

So what you are telling me is, Arathi Basin, Scenarios, Warzones, etc aren't Instances? Wintergrasp isn't an instance (when it's in session)?  I call it an instance for the fact that, you are not freely walking around the world and encounter people. It's ONLY this "zone/instance" that you can PvP in.  Great, you can Join/leave anytime you wish.  But it's still a "port" to get there.  You are not doing everyday normal quests anywhere in the world (except starter areas!) and running into someone from another world.

BGs, Scenarios, Warzones, whatever you want to call them, those are instances. Have you ever noticed that you are automatically put into a group when you enter one? That's what the queue is for, you have to wait for a group to be put together. That won't happen in WvWvW because its not an instance. You can freely walk around and meet people in WvWvW as there is no player cap. Just because its a dedicated PvP area doesn't mean it an instance. Remember PvP lakes in WAR? Those weren't instanced and those were dedicated PvP areas. Porting to WvWvW has nothing to do with it either.

They aren't instances. That's that. Stop grasping for arguments.

 

You leave your server and enter an INSTANCE for WvWvW.  It is not taking place in the normal game world.  Get over it.  

Never said it was the normal game world. Reading comprehension FTW.

I never said that you said it was the normal game world.  Reading comprehension FTW.  

You implied I was. My point still stands, if its an instance then prove it.

Perhaps the problem is that you have no idea what an instance is...  "If you want to have a civilised and intelligent conversation on it then please do your research I hate arguing and conversing with the uninformed or idiots."  How beautifully ironic.

 

Instance

Definition: A segment of gameplay in MMORPGs in which players form a group together and enter a special area in the game world, usually through some type of portal. They are then essentially cut off from the rest of the gamers in that only people who are in the group when the group passes through the portal will be able to enter the dungeon with them. Other groups may enter the dungeon, but will not encounter the first group, hence they are in a different INSTANCE of the same dungeon.

http://geekdictionary.computing.net/define/instance

Seeing as this doesn't happen in WvWvW, I guess it's not an instance. Thanks for your concern though.

Still an instance.  This lame definition (that I knew you would go search for) stupidly ties "grouping" to an instance, as if you couldn't enter an instance solo.

Keep trying, but you'll still be wrong.

You can enter it solo, and still see someone else who has also entered it solo. There is no definition of instance that applies to that scenario.

I'm happy for you, and I'ma let you finish, but you simply don't get to make your own definitions for words. You are not the dictionary, and if you repeat an untruth long enough, it won't become true. I'm going to go ahead and report you for trolling, though, because this has gone on long enough.

It's still an instance.

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by sidhaethe

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

So what you are telling me is, Arathi Basin, Scenarios, Warzones, etc aren't Instances? Wintergrasp isn't an instance (when it's in session)?  I call it an instance for the fact that, you are not freely walking around the world and encounter people. It's ONLY this "zone/instance" that you can PvP in.  Great, you can Join/leave anytime you wish.  But it's still a "port" to get there.  You are not doing everyday normal quests anywhere in the world (except starter areas!) and running into someone from another world.

BGs, Scenarios, Warzones, whatever you want to call them, those are instances. Have you ever noticed that you are automatically put into a group when you enter one? That's what the queue is for, you have to wait for a group to be put together. That won't happen in WvWvW because its not an instance. You can freely walk around and meet people in WvWvW as there is no player cap. Just because its a dedicated PvP area doesn't mean it an instance. Remember PvP lakes in WAR? Those weren't instanced and those were dedicated PvP areas. Porting to WvWvW has nothing to do with it either.

They aren't instances. That's that. Stop grasping for arguments.

 

You leave your server and enter an INSTANCE for WvWvW.  It is not taking place in the normal game world.  Get over it.  

Never said it was the normal game world. Reading comprehension FTW.

I never said that you said it was the normal game world.  Reading comprehension FTW.  

You implied I was. My point still stands, if its an instance then prove it.

Perhaps the problem is that you have no idea what an instance is...  "If you want to have a civilised and intelligent conversation on it then please do your research I hate arguing and conversing with the uninformed or idiots."  How beautifully ironic.

 

Instance

Definition: A segment of gameplay in MMORPGs in which players form a group together and enter a special area in the game world, usually through some type of portal. They are then essentially cut off from the rest of the gamers in that only people who are in the group when the group passes through the portal will be able to enter the dungeon with them. Other groups may enter the dungeon, but will not encounter the first group, hence they are in a different INSTANCE of the same dungeon.

http://geekdictionary.computing.net/define/instance

Seeing as this doesn't happen in WvWvW, I guess it's not an instance. Thanks for your concern though.

Still an instance.  This lame definition (that I knew you would go search for) stupidly ties "grouping" to an instance, as if you couldn't enter an instance solo.

Keep trying, but you'll still be wrong.

You can enter it solo, and still see someone else who has also entered it solo. There is no definition of instance that applies to that scenario.

I'm happy for you, and I'ma let you finish, but you simply don't get to make your own definitions for words. You are not the dictionary, and if you repeat an untruth long enough, it won't become true. I'm going to go ahead and report you for trolling, though, because this has gone on long enough.

It's still an instance.

If the GW2 W v W v W is an instance then so is every single MMO in existance, by your very own definition.

Even stuff like each individual solar system in EVE would be an instance given your own definition.

You really have no idea do you?

Wow that's weird.  All the things the OP cites as "dislikes" are "likes" for me.

Guess it takes all kinds to make the gaming world go 'round.

Originally posted by mmonooblet

It's still an instance.

That depends on if it's a private zone or not, if it's not private it's just a zone. Zoning and instancing are two different things.

Originally posted by just1opinion

Wow that's weird.  All the things the OP cites as "dislikes" are "likes" for me.

 

Guess it takes all kinds to make the gaming world go 'round.

Same here.

I've gotten to the point where I don't bother arguing with people about aspects of GW2. I like everything in the game, I know for sure it's what I like, I'm not going to be let down. Then they argue and say it happened to all these other games and everything the developers say is just to make hype. All I can say is sorry your expectations for those games were so high, but I like what I've seen from the game, there's nothing that will disappoint me.

It really all comes down to personal preference. I know people hate seeing this but it makes sense:

You don't like it? Then it's not the game for you, find something else that'll suit your interests.

Saying the mists is an instance is like saying the abyss in aion is in instance. You may have to port to get there, but it is a open zone like every other open zone in every other MMO. It is not a private instance.

Originally posted by romanator0

Oh I know you can enter an instance solo, but the definition is still right. When you enter an instance you are either alone or only with your group.

Thats not the case with WvWvW. You see everybody that decides to enter.

I think you guys are gettin trolled...

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by sidhaethe

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by mmonooblet

Originally posted by romanator0

blah blah blah

blah blah blah

blah blah. Reading comprehension FTW.

blah   Reading comprehension FTW.  

blah 

blah

 

Instance

Definition: A segment of gameplay in MMORPGs in which players form a group together and enter a special area in the game world, usually through some type of portal. They are then essentially cut off from the rest of the gamers in that only people who are in the group when the group passes through the portal will be able to enter the dungeon with them. Other groups may enter the dungeon, but will not encounter the first group, hence they are in a different INSTANCE of the same dungeon.

http://geekdictionary.computing.net/define/instance

Seeing as this doesn't happen in WvWvW, I guess it's not an instance. Thanks for your concern though.

Still an instance.  This lame definition (that I knew you would go search for) stupidly ties "grouping" to an instance, as if you couldn't enter an instance solo.

Keep trying, but you'll still be wrong.

You can enter it solo, and still see someone else who has also entered it solo. There is no definition of instance that applies to that scenario.

I'm happy for you, and I'ma let you finish, but you simply don't get to make your own definitions for words. You are not the dictionary, and if you repeat an untruth long enough, it won't become true. I'm going to go ahead and report you for trolling, though, because this has gone on long enough.

It's still an instance.

And not a single f*ck was given

If you can see someone other than your group, it isn't an instance

If you can only see your group, it is an instance

Why is this dragged out so long, who cares if WvWvW is instanced or whatever, its just how you label the terminology.

If it is fun, not a single f*ck will be given whether it is instanced or not.

stop trolling

Blueprint  

              | -> Object

              | -> Object

              | -> Object

                        ^ Instantiated objects from the Blueprint. 

Dungeon Blueprint  

              |  -> New Dungeon instance

              |  -> New Dungeon instance

              |  -> New Dungeon instance

Character Model Blueprint

              |  -> New Character Model Instance

              |  -> New Character Model Instance

              |  -> New Character Model Instance

Game Client Blueprint

             |  -> New Game Client Instance

             |  -> New Game Client Instance

             |  -> New Game Client Instance

Commonly used phrase: For Instance (for example).

Example: For instance, yesterday i ate a hamburger.

Explanation: The speaker creates a conversational instance of his or her's yesterday hamburger-eating experience. The blueprint for this experience was in his or her memory.

Conclusion: Everything is a frikkin instance of something.

Suggestion: Start using words you can comprehend.

Examples: Dungeon is a good word. Battleground is a good word.

Words, lol

I think the argument about whether something is or isn't an instance might be coming from the somewhat unique situation that GW2 is providing here.

One aspect of instancing is the idea that each person, group, or raid who enters has their own version.  They are separated from others.  It's implied by the name, each has their own instance of the content.  I think we all agree that WvWvW battlegrounds in GW2 are areas where everybody from the same server sees everybody.  If what you were entering was something like a DAOC PVP area or a WoW Wintergrasp, then there would be no confusion.  It would be just another zone.

However, another aspect of instancing is non-persistence.  The area exists for only as long as its needed.  I think we all agree that WvWvW battlegrounds will only exist for the week or two that they're needed and then they'll be taken down and a different map will be put in their place.

The question here is whether an area, due to its non-persistence, can be called an instance even if it's the only possible version.  Think about it.  You cap the battleground at 40v40v40 and start another one and it's clearly an instance.  Make the cap high enough that it can't be reached (or don't make another one) and it's not.

Maybe we need a new word.  "Non-persistent zone" doesn't quite roll off the tongue.