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6/28/11 5:03:18 PM#61
OMG, i didnt read the journal. MMO! lol! I mean, laugh out lawd. Seriously, If LOL can have that title, why not HON too? In every matches, you reset to level 1. So how can you call that mmo? Raising skills after each match is just an excuse, but we cant still call it mmo or else, even Call of duty, battlefield and plenty of games would also be mmor. C:\Users\FF\Desktop\spin move.gif |
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6/28/11 5:22:50 PM#62
It's an ok casual game for casual players, but Riot plan to make lol esports game is disgusting. Look at neutral base of fans (sc2 fans) reacting when quake live got replaced by LoL at IEM. That pretty much sums it all. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237909 |
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6/28/11 5:46:21 PM#63
Going to try League of Legends. :) |
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6/28/11 6:23:19 PM#64
Originally posted by Tyrantas http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/33479-League_of_Legends_breaks_NA_eSports_record beg to differ, i'm not a person to watch these things. But I play LoL and my brother being an avid SC2 player, told me about that news which made me laugh (cause I always make fun of him watching these esport things - he watches SC2 games and used to watch WoW arenas). Anyways most watched NA esport event something like 1.2-1.4 million people watched it. |
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6/28/11 6:44:46 PM#65
Originally posted by Bunkafish The article linked about the record breaking LoL tournament was just the qualifiers for Dreamhack. The numbers for the actual Dreamhack tournament were much, much larger and shattered their own records set a few weeks before. At one point over 200k concurrent viewers.
That is a pretty smart move for ESL to add a MOBA to IEM. MOBAs seem to be the competitive genre that is growing the quickest, and LoL has led that charge. |
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6/28/11 7:51:32 PM#66
MOBA games always have bad communitys. Out of all of them I would say LoL has the best... best of the worst, but still... |
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6/28/11 9:46:12 PM#67
And ARAM mode too :) "I am the harbinger of hope. I am the sword of the righteous. And to all who hear my words, I say this: What you give to this Empire, I shall give back unto you." |
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6/28/11 10:44:43 PM#68
There's no reason to play Lol, you play Hon until Dota 2 comes out and that's all you need. Lol will just dumb you down and you'll have troubles in Dota 2. |
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6/28/11 11:14:05 PM#69
DOTA/HON is to boxing as LoL is to mma. |
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6/28/11 11:17:41 PM#70
Originally posted by Ephimero Nah, theres reason to play LOL. Casual players who get rocked in DOTA and HON have reason to play LOL. Because it starts you off playing against other complete newbies. If me or any other MOBA veteran play LOL we will be sleeping at our computer racking up 20-30 kills a game trying to get to the competitive scene. I really wanted to like LOL but HON did everything so much better. If S2Games found a way to give their new players a way to learn the game without getting roflstomped then they would be doing better than LOL. I know that HON is more popular in areas where garena operates it because they operate it as a F2P model. I recommend anyone who likes MOBA's like LOL give yourself a challenge and pickup a free trial key of HON. However find someone who plays HON and is willing to help you learn the differences. |
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6/28/11 11:40:00 PM#71
so i played dota for a few years and got bored. tried lol and hon and what can i say: hon - so yeah it was beta and it was clearly stated - buying the game will give you a shiny name and buying it will be optional. wait what? why you must buy it then? tbh it would be much more popular if it were f2p. at the same time they would earn more money with a smart business model. gameplay... well a cheap copy of dota unfortunately and i already played that one. its like playing a buggy wow clone after playing wow - whats the point really? still one of the worst things in that game is the style itself. compared to the always unique fun to watch design of such developers like valve or blizzard... this just looks uninspired and idiotic. add to that a graphics engine which doesnt fit the genre - everything blends together way too well, effects add too much to clusterfuck and its hard to spot something into the fight. there is a reason why quake 3 was bright and that wasnt to appeal to kids.
league of legends - was a bit sceptic at first, but it was new, different, felt like playing a new game of the same genre. seriously im enjoying the game and the only bad thing about it is the server quality.
so whats the general result? after playing dota if i were to play hon for a few years and then go to dota 2... it would be playing pretty much the same game for quite a few years. since i love innovation, new things etc... id say ill be enjoying dota 2 much more without playing a cheapass hon. |
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6/28/11 11:43:11 PM#72
League of Legends is pretty good. Though the community is terrible, but what game doesn't have a terrible community and I'm not talking about the cliche a player may have joined but the community in general. However, my big gripe is the massive balance swings that patches bring on. Buff to godhood and nerf into the ground occurs far too often. Forever looking for employment. Life is rather dull without it. |
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6/29/11 1:25:19 AM#73
I'd be all over this game if it had a 1vs1 ladder. |
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6/29/11 3:11:49 AM#74
If it's popular it doesn't mean it's good esports game, lol doesn't take any skill compared to real esports games and it's unbalanced. It's popular because it's free and easy to play, not because it's good. You also inflate those numbers. |
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6/29/11 3:26:15 AM#75
any teambased game needs skill. its a battle of strategy you like it or not. also doesnt matter if its simple or not - we all know CS and Quake series are simple... but does anyone care? imbalance is your opinion and not neccesarily truth. |
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6/29/11 3:48:42 AM#76
tyrantas, if it's so easy and doesn't take any skill, then you shouldn't have any problem getting to 2000+ ELO amrite? go do it, post a screenie and then maybe your opinion will be valid. until then, you're nothing but a bitter Hon fan bashing LoL all over mmorpg forums with no data or facts to back up his big mouth. i am serious, all your recent comments relating to lol are just pure bs. no data. no facts. even better, why don't you write an article or review with some in-depth analysis, and explain what you don't like about LoL? or maybe you can't do it. "I am the harbinger of hope. I am the sword of the righteous. And to all who hear my words, I say this: What you give to this Empire, I shall give back unto you." |
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6/29/11 3:53:07 AM#77
That time is already passed. DotA was fun, but LoL has greatly improved on the core mechanics and HoN has pushed the graphics and other games are evolving the format. Its time the genre got a real name. MOBA, I will agree, isn't that descriptive. I think COBRA (Competitive Online Battle/Role-playing Arena) has a nice ring to it and is fairly descriptive--not to mention it has a cool acronym). |
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6/29/11 4:06:11 AM#78
So because you do an article on carrots, you must also do one on tomatoes? .. They are both vegetables but have nothing to do with eachother otherwise... |
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6/29/11 4:14:10 AM#79
Originally posted by EclipZe.dk If the website was called vegonline.com then sure I would expect the tomato article. This website is MMORPG.com, and the writers seem to think that LoL is related enough to the genre for them to write articles on it (quite regularly). So I would expect a decent level of impartiality and for them to start doing pieces on other games in the MOBA genre. Otherwise they just come off as a simple fan site, by only reporting on one game in a growing new genre. |
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6/29/11 6:21:41 AM#80
They only have 2 maps, which is rather poor considering how long the game has been out. 1 5 v 5 map and 1 3 v 3 map. Playstyles on the two different maps are different for most champions as the 3 v 3 is a much smaller map which makes for a faster pace. There are still some tweaks that need to be made. Some champions are definately overpowered and the fact that every ranged champion released since the original core of champions has a sole cause of out-ranging the three primary ranged champs (Ashe, Sivir, Teemo) seems very suspect as to who is pulling the strings over there. There are a couple of other games released in this genre since LoL. Heroes of Newerth and Lands of Chaos Online are two that come to mind. Heroes of Newerth allows champions to plow through the landscape with axes or certain skills making the maps not so redundant. Each game is a little different since the player can create new paths through the terrain. LOCO looks really nice, it plays more like a TPS MMO but they have gotten out of hand with their micropay systems. You have to pay out money to fully unlock a champion's skills. They also allow for pretty much perma invulnerability in the form of invulnerability potions, which can also be combined with other items to create items with invulnerability triggers on them. LOCO's targetting systems is screwy too making support champions a pain in the arse to play. |
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