Please dont say WoW killer it encourage's the trolls to come out from under the bridge 

Originally posted by Nerf09

Originally posted by grimm6th

Originally posted by Nerf09

From the video's i've watched it looks like ad-hoc grouping, and not avoiding other players cause they are kill-stealers like in your typical wow-clone, is automatic and actually wanted by the player.  So was it the holy-trinity that was hated, or was it another game mechanic?  Personally I slightly dis-liked the holy-trinity for the holy-trinity, but I mostly hated the holy-trinity because of another game mechanic which I stated in my opening remarks, the grouping mechanic or grinding mechanic.

The trinity doesn't really lend itself to ad hoc switching between group and solo play, so there is more than just a dislike for trinity or a killstealing problem that is inspiring a change in the mechanic.  I agree that the automatic grouping is probably because the classes aren't split up into holy trinity roles, and I also like that the classes aren't ever completely relying on others to survive against other.

 

I wonder if the holy trinity will be abandoned by other games if GW2 does well enough.

If GW2 works as advertised then it will be a WOW-killer, and other games will follow suit.  I've been waiting for a game to play for 5 years.

assuming people who play WoW actually want interesting combat.  I have come across a few people who don't seem to WANT this kind of combat.

and anyone who has played the demo can tell you that it delivers as advertised on combat

Originally posted by alan0

Please dont say WoW killer it encourage's the trolls to come out from under the bridge 

wow killer is a logical theoretical scenario.   WWIIONLINE (MMOFPS) came out in 2001, Planetside (the only other MMOFPS) came out in 2003; many players left WWIIONLINE to Planetside.  Certain people are attached to their genres, either the playerbase is divided among the favored, or one game suffers.

Originally posted by grimm6th

Originally posted by Nerf09
 

assuming people who play WoW actually want interesting combat.  I have come across a few people who don't seem to WANT this kind of combat.

and anyone who has played the demo can tell you that it delivers as advertised on combat

Maybe it just sounds too different for them but I can't figure out why it would be. All that anet did was add strafing while using minor attacks, and dodge rolling by double tapping the directional buttons. Its traditional gameplay with more active controls. I guess people just have to play it to believe it.

the trinity is fail, its missing the 4th class, proper full time CC, see eq1 enchanter or eq2 enchanter

Originally posted by neorandom

the trinity is fail, its missing the 4th class, proper full time CC, see eq1 enchanter or eq2 enchanter

Which is a form of active damage prevention... And a tactiall tool very much missed in current day MMO's

GW2 will have a lot of these tactics brought back...