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  Miles-Prower

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6/06/11 12:57:16 AM#21

I have no idea how the star system works. I've been 5 stars before, but it's not someting I'm biting my nails trying to get back =P. Especially since I just painted 'em..

 

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  xKingdomx

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6/06/11 1:31:30 AM#22
Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by xKingdomx

Doesn'tReallyMatter-Ay
I don't even look at those ranking shitzel, nothing but 5 glorified gold star.
But you know a troller when you see

Originally posted by eayes
I'm just posting to boost my total :P

:P

EDIT: Just realise I have 5 stars,  I WIN!

this is the endgame now.

 

I have five stars and spotlight poster.

But I have an avatar.....you don't! :P

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  lunatis

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Joined: 6/25/03
Posts: 265

 
OP  6/06/11 1:13:32 PM#23

I login almost every day and really that doesn't help my rating.

I think Kudos would be an awesome way to reward users!

  MikeB

MMORPG.com Community Manager

Joined: 5/27/09
Posts: 4861

6/07/11 2:58:03 PM#24

To answer the OP: the star system is not at all based on "mass forum trolling" as posts that are deleted or receiving infractions against your account will negatively impact your star rating. Logging in frequently, posting constructively, etc all help your star rank.

With that said, I've been reading the feedback in this thread and I'll continue to keep an eye on it as we are always looking to improve upon existing reward systems such as the title and star rank system, but we're also looking into new ways to reward users and allow users to reward each other so keep the feedback coming. :)

Michael "MikeB" Bitton
Community Manager
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  lunatis

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Joined: 6/25/03
Posts: 265

 
OP  6/07/11 4:48:11 PM#25

Ahh then I know how my status went down so fast :P

  Palebane

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6/07/11 4:53:33 PM#26

MMORPG.com to me is what Facebook is to my wife, I think.

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  Deathofsage

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Joined: 2/11/11
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Honestly:
FFXI Fanboy
RIFT hater.
Stop rewarding wow-clones.

6/07/11 4:57:46 PM#27
Originally posted by Palebane

MMORPG.com to me is what Facebook is to my wife, I think.

I really really want to laugh at the farmville crowd but, considering my mmo history, I...I just haven't figured out how to justify it.

Still workin on it though..

...tee hee famville...

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  spookydom

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6/07/11 5:13:35 PM#28

Over the years I have gained and lost stars like I was some kind of stary loosey gainey type of machine. At times I have acted very badly though and I'm pretty sure about 300 of my post total have been deleted. I remember MikeB trying to explaine it in Technical support Email once. Mike if you are reading, one thing I think I have noticed is that when threads are deleted people seem to loose stars who did nothing wrong. Like for instance If it was a thread that was deleted due to one or two posters beeing out of order then do the other on topic posters in the thread have stras deducted when the thread is removed?  Not sure if this is the case or not? If so and you like your stars then let "Don't feed the Trolls!" become your watchword.:)

 

Edit* By arcane means it has come to my attention that I have only had 18 posts deleted. This makes me feal a lot better about my self :D

  MikeB

MMORPG.com Community Manager

Joined: 5/27/09
Posts: 4861

6/07/11 5:31:53 PM#29
Originally posted by spookydom

Over the years I have gained and lost stars like I was some kind of stary loosey gainey type of machine. At times I have acted very badly though and I'm pretty sure about 300 of my post total have been deleted. I remember MikeB trying to explaine it in Technical support Email once. Mike if you are reading, one thing I think I have noticed is that when threads are deleted people seem to loose stars who did nothing wrong. Like for instance If it was a thread that was deleted due to one or two posters beeing out of order then do the other on topic posters in the thread have stras deducted when the thread is removed?  Not sure if this is the case or not? If so and you like your stars then let "Don't feed the Trolls!" become your watchword.:)

If this is happening it absolutely shouldn't. I'll definitely ask and find out. :)

Michael "MikeB" Bitton
Community Manager
Twitter: @eMikeB

  doragon86

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Joined: 2/23/09
Posts: 480

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

6/07/11 5:39:08 PM#30

Today I learned how the star system worked, and thus I wondered how many stars Mario has.

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  spookydom

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Joined: 7/25/08
Posts: 1695

I'm a lvl 50 Batman!

6/07/11 5:40:50 PM#31
Originally posted by MikeB
Originally posted by spookydom

Over the years I have gained and lost stars like I was some kind of stary loosey gainey type of machine. At times I have acted very badly though and I'm pretty sure about 300 of my post total have been deleted. I remember MikeB trying to explaine it in Technical support Email once. Mike if you are reading, one thing I think I have noticed is that when threads are deleted people seem to loose stars who did nothing wrong. Like for instance If it was a thread that was deleted due to one or two posters beeing out of order then do the other on topic posters in the thread have stras deducted when the thread is removed?  Not sure if this is the case or not? If so and you like your stars then let "Don't feed the Trolls!" become your watchword.:)

If this is happening it absolutely shouldn't. I'll definitely ask and find out. :)

I am probably wrong, I generaly am. May be worth a look though.:)

  MikeB

MMORPG.com Community Manager

Joined: 5/27/09
Posts: 4861

6/07/11 5:42:04 PM#32
Originally posted by doragon86

Today I learned how the star system worked, and thus I wondered how many stars Mario has.

Mario is actually a moderator. He stomps goombas all day and so he's always got five stars. :)

Michael "MikeB" Bitton
Community Manager
Twitter: @eMikeB

  lunatis

Novice Member

Joined: 6/25/03
Posts: 265

 
OP  6/07/11 8:51:03 PM#33

A way to reward others for good posts WOULD be very awesome :P

  Sigilaea

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Joined: 3/19/07
Posts: 302

6/07/11 9:01:37 PM#34

Any system of rating user activitiy should be empirical. It should count the number of posts, even if some are troll attempts.

 

The reason why is because anything that involves the judgement of others will be more flawed since it will boil down to politics and result in a popularity contest. Someone could decide they don't like you and give you bad ratings everywhere and drive your reputation into the ground.

 

Maybe a better approachis to use the same system, but call it something closer to what it represents. Instead of stars, or anything that implies reward/punishment, just show the number of posts the person has. That's about as fair as this will ever get.

  User Deleted
6/10/11 6:08:24 PM#35

I find the hype rating to be laughable.  So many ancient games (while they may be of the highest quality) are hyped up near the top, when they are anything but hyped.

Then you got a game like atlantica online, whos only hype seems to be complaints and an over active community liasion, yet no real "buzz" that would warrent it to be parked between arch age and GW2 (both two game swho really are hyped)

Perhaps a hype rating based on sub forum traffic, posts, and other factors that would signify "hype"

DOing this would also remove the problem of the fact that 60% of the games listed here have too few votes to be hype rated, as my suggested system would be passive and rate those games accordingly to traffic and activity.

Perhaps a secondary, user voted, "ZERG rating" would be needed.  I used the term zerg rated as its nothing more than zerg voting for a game (what the current hype rating is)

that is all

  User Deleted
6/10/11 6:12:30 PM#36

There was a period of about 3 weeks when I was working from home and had mmorpg.com open all day every day. By the end of that time I was a full 5 stars. It's not that I wasn't posting - but I wasn't posting a lot. I think you get props if you start threads, but more than that I think you get props if you are just logged in all the time. At least that's the impression I got. A couple weeks later after not logging in much I dropped almost 2 full stars.

  Svartlackad

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Joined: 12/13/09
Posts: 58

6/10/11 6:13:14 PM#37

Why does stars matter? Didn't get enough of them in school? O.o

  twodayslate

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Joined: 4/04/11
Posts: 756

6/10/11 6:23:29 PM#38
Originally posted by lunatis

A way to reward others for good posts WOULD be very awesome :P

Why do forum users need rewards for anything?  Does this fit in with the "everyone is a winner" complex that is making society so weak these days?  Nobody needs a reward for punching out some letters and pushing a button.

  k11keeper

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Joined: 2/15/04
Posts: 942

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6/10/11 6:25:35 PM#39

Yeah I've always been curious about how the star system works. Now I know, I've been a member for a while and I've gone from 1 star to 5 stars to 1 star and back to 5 stars a few times. Over the years I tend to spend more time on this site when I'm between MMOs or when I'm only playing one occasionaly. When I'm really active in an MMO I tend to go to dedicated forums more often and then just visit the sub forum here for that game occasionally in an attempt to bring more people to that game or answer questions. So right now I'm between games and low and behold I have 5 stars.

I need to find a good game so my stars will go back to 1...

  Korby

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Joined: 1/26/07
Posts: 508

6/10/11 10:17:11 PM#40

I never understood the star system.

 

I usually end up here when I'm in between games. I can go a month without a need to visit this site. When I do, I can't even rate the game that I had just quit.

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