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Originally posted by m0lly

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Originally posted by Belight
It's karma for what they did to SWG...
 
 
But seriously, no encription for millions of user's info...... Nice.

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how long will peeps grudge over star war galaxies is beyond me , give it a rest already.
 
but yeah remove data from this compnay and for future concole is not gona be ps4 for me thanks bye!

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Originally posted by Belight

It's karma for what they did to SWG...

 

/agree

evolution cant occur without casualties. such is the way of progress. happens in life all the time. Animal testing for vaccines and medical treatments? what are they followed by? Human testing. rarely these tests are harming the volunteers. yet the tests were not trying to do so...it just happened to.

similarly the hacker wasnt targetting the players, he was targetting Sony. The player may or may not be suffering. How many people have actually had their accounts destroyd by this information leak? sure, safety is compromised but does this really 'hurt' them? its possible but not guaranteed. it hurts the company's image though.

I dont think the 'victim players' are suffering as much as you say by your comparisons with car accidents and bank robberies.

Originally posted by Malickie

I think it's pretty obvious it won't stop. Not until these guys are caught anyway.

I was referring to the PSN/SOE breach. I didn't see many posting about the victims in that situation, only the holder of said account info (Sony), TBH I find it rather distasteful. Maybe I'm being harsh with that, but to me it seems people are championing what went down. Nothing seems right about that to me.

There are responsible ways to hurt a company, this isn't one of them.

I don't think this is a case of some small group of people attacking sony, but lots of different groups.  Word has spread that Sonys network wasn't properly secured and is easy pickings, so hackers are focusing on it.

I don't really see people cheering on the hackers for being standup people and the people complaining about the soe hack are the victoms.  Sure people are not in the least bit surprised this happened to SOE.

It isn't like SOE has been a company that puts their customers care as a high priority or that they go out of their way to make good relations with their customers.  That same level of care is showing through in their lack of concern for their security of their customers personal information.  The only reason we are victoms in this situation is because Sony/SOE was not concerned enough to do even basic level security on their network.  They have shown almost complete disregard for security and continue to run half assed.  As if staying online is more important than fixing their problems, but again that is something they have historically done.

Hopefully someone will catch the hackers and then we can focus some aggression towards them. 

The sliver lining here is that now companies, or atleast Sony, will take their server security more seriously like they should. Yes, releasing private information to the public is a bummer, but remember that Sony had a chance to improve their security a year ago when the hackers had discovered the weaknessess and informed Sony about them. They just didn't listen then, I bet they listen now.

Another thing is that while other companies hired crackers to improve the security of their systems, Sony went on a manhunt. Hackers lashed out in response and I bet Sony is regretting that decision by now.

Many posters are guilty of over-dramatizing this matter. This is nothing as serious as stealing a baby and then watching it drown for instance. Not even close.

In short, hackers are not the devil and Sony is definitely not the victim here. I see only good coming out of this in the future - although I don't care if Sony keels over or not.

    Personally, I would like to see SOE fined so heavily that the world economies could rebound off the gains.  Then I would like to see these hackers caught, tried in a court of law and then jailed for a time equal to one day for each person they subjected to risk by posting there information on the web.  From what I read I guess that would amount to about a million days.

Originally posted by Quirhid

The sliver lining here is that now companies, or atleast Sony, will take their server security more seriously like they should. Yes, releasing private information to the public is a bummer, but remember that Sony had a chance to improve their security a year ago when the hackers had discovered the weaknessess and informed Sony about them. They just didn't listen then, I bet they listen now.

Another thing is that while other companies hired crackers to improve the security of their systems, Sony went on a manhunt. Hackers lashed out in response and I bet Sony is regretting that decision by now.

Many posters are guilty of over-dramatizing this matter. This is nothing as serious as stealing a baby and then watching it drown for instance. Not even close.

 

In short, hackers are not the devil and Sony is definitely not the victim here. I see only good coming out of this in the future - although I don't care if Sony keels over or not.

Not sure if  'security' will be taken seriously by other companies. Some will but some won't.

Heck, even Sony themselves didn't take it seriously with this new hack!

Totally get that they are different but they all fall under the 'Sony' brand, one assumes that some of them actually watches the news and go, 'systems within the same company as us just got hacked! maybe we should check ours?'.

after the destroying of SWG i hope sony goes out of buisness

I don't classify what the hackers are doing against Sony as hacktivism as I think it is moving towards severe criminal activity.  But it does expose how we put too much trust in these corporations with our info, which they sell to make even more money on top of our sub (No surprise the F2P movement has picked up steam over the years).  

Originally posted by Hoplites

I don't classify what the hackers are doing against Sony as hacktivism as I think it is moving towards severe criminal activity.  But it does expose how we put too much trust in these corporations with our info, which they sell to make even more money on top of our sub (No surprise the F2P movement has picked up steam over the years).  

Exactly, if they want to be some kind of martyr maybe they should think more about the people they are releasing the personal info of.  You have made your point, why harm the customers?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/06/03/sony-2nd-data-breach.html

This is getting slightly disturbing.

Has 1 of you even thought that it might be microsoft doing this?

Stores are being inondated with folk trading in PS3's, Xbox sales have shot through the roof..!

But "Sony stored over 1,000,000 passwords of its customers in plaintext!" the hackers stated.

Next Sony will be asking the tax payers for a bail out package!

The hackers even have a tweet ffs.

http://twitter.com/#!/lulzsec

Here is your data!

http://pastebin.com/Y38gCS82

Originally posted by stevengw

Has 1 of you even thought that it might be microsoft doing this?

Stores are being inondated with folk trading in PS3's, Xbox sales have shot through the roof..!

But "Sony stored over 1,000,000 passwords of its customers in plaintext!" the hackers stated.

Next Sony will be asking the tax payers for a bail out package!

 

The hackers even have a tweet ffs.

http://twitter.com/#!/lulzsec

 

Here is your data!

http://pastebin.com/Y38gCS82

 The thought has struck me that it could be some big competitor company that has employed hackers to bring sony  down.

Microsoft doesn't sound too far off.

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Originally posted by stevengw

Next Sony will be asking the tax payers for a bail out package!

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Originally posted by Shoju

Originally posted by MMO.Maverick

I wish those hackers were shot and burn in hell.

 

All your personal data and info all over the net ffs...

Agreed.  It is one thing to have a beef against a company and desire to do them harm, but fucking over the general public sucks ass. 

Yes, when you start to endanger people, you've gone too far. I don't understand what they're proving by releasing information. Obviously they want to turn people away from Sony, but this is NOT the way to go about it.

Man, I don't play Sony's games. Never at all in my lifetime ! I don't have a strong liking or hate for them, but it seems like they have taken a lot of shit over the years ! And I decently believe that the links below maybe one (far-fetched ?) possible reason why they were hacked !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystere_incident

http://stationblog.wordpress.com/2006/02/16/virtual-jail/

http://www.gamegrene.com/node/41

http://www.planetcrap.com/topics/153/

http://amplicate.com/hate/sony-online-entertainment

http://amplicate.com/love/sony-online-entertainment

Also. From the deepest darkest corners of the internet, I bring you these links too.

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/EverQuest_II

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/EverQuest

http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/Star_wars_galaxies

Originally posted by Belight

In the long run and big picture those low life hackers who deserve a bullet are doing you a favor. It's technological growing pains.

Keep giving your identity away to mega corporations who don't care an ounce about you and see what happens.

These companies are mining data. Why do they need your address and phone number on record? Why do grocery stores only offer you fair prices if you use their littel cards that store all your personal info? .

So they can make geographic consumer reports to improve their profits... They view as cattle... A cash crop to be monitored and exploited. They don't even have the respect to secure the info they've collected from you.

 

Personally I find the whole thing hilarious.

 These assholes are the type of people that we have to worry about our information's security.  It is amazing to see the complete ignorance of some of the posters on these boards.  Think about WHY we need to worry about keeping that information safe in the first place.  Is it because or marketing research?  No.   Is it because of hackers stealing your information and making it public or misusing it?  Yes.  

Make no mistakes.  It's not the company who has put the users in the current situation.  It is the hackers.  Regardless of the security measures in place, without these assholes we wouldn't have to worry about the security in the first place. 

If your still messing around with SoE, then you shoulda known this was coming sooner or later, SoE has been pissing gamers and hackers off for a long time, and once Sony came out and said hackers couldnt touch them, I knew they were done for. The hackers will get the most blame for this, tho its clearly Sonys fault, they need to close their doors already.

P.S. Whos dumb enough to store their personal information with the companys? Every company these days has an option to remove your information after paying for your subscription so you never have to store your info with them, if you choose not to do that, its your own fault.

I just can't believe passwords were stored in "plaintext". Even my poor php/mysql hash the password

The main problem in my opinion is not that password is encrypted or not. The main problem is they managed to access these data !!

Originally posted by stevengw

Has 1 of you even thought that it might be microsoft doing this?

Stores are being inondated with folk trading in PS3's, Xbox sales have shot through the roof..!

Sony was doing just fine on its own by pissing off hackers, PS3 customers and failing to secure their own network.  Microsoft not only would be in serious shit if they got caught being involved in this, but they really didn't need to do anything except sit back and watch Sony implode.