Originally posted by heerobya

Originally posted by xxpigxx

Have you read ANYTHING on the game?

It is a hybrid.  FFA PvP is not forced on anyone.

I dunno how much more innovayive you want.

Beautiful looking game, sandbox/Themepark hybrid, PvP/PvE hybrid/Open housing, in depth crafting . . .

It is looking like a virtual world that we all want.

 If it's not forced on anyone, how is it FFA PvP?

Not very "free for all" if there are many rules/restrictions now is it?

It is FFA within the third continent where there will be territorial control etc. You do not have to vsit tthat continent unless you choose to.

The whole game is not FFA, but that play style is there if you choose it.

Originally posted by heerobya

Originally posted by Dvalon

From what iv been able to gather....

Three islands, two main safe faction islands on which players can build their own houses, towns and cities, plant tree's and litrally change the face of the land over time, so for the first time in mmo history we have an open mmo that changes as players do stuff.

the middle island is the land both nations are fighting over, so thats where the lawless areas are, players can then build here as well, but the added ability to actually build militery buildings, forts castles etc which clans will then use to wage wars with, seige, capture and destroy, build a house here and its at risk of being destroyed , build a town and an army might come in and wipe it off the map.

Battles wont just be faought on this island but also in the sea's around it, your guilds or clans castles and towns might not just be under land invasion the attacking army might have naval support, so not only is your town and or castle being seiged on land its also taking naval fire from the sea.

I really dont know what you guys are complaining about, that sounds bloody fantastic to me, so sure there is a safe starting area for new players to enjoy the pve side of the game, but this middle island is where all the cool kids will be, kick each others ass, destroying each others houses and castles and taking control of the land.

 

 Funny, this sounds EXACTLY like what Darkfall, Mortal Online, and a slew of other "sandbox" MMO titles promised and then never have been able to deliver on.

Be wary of the hype - do you, the reader/player, have enough faith in this development studio to believe in the hype?

Have you watched the videos of PvP? Ship building? Construction? The world? Videos of all this working smoothly and well in a game thats still in CB?

I am not trusting the company, I am trusting my eyes.

I understand your fear here, investing another new game and being let down, but just take the time to go to AAportal and watch. These arnt BS CG movies or company edited 'play' vids... these are showing it how it is, and tbh those naval combat vids alone excited the hell out of me.

This dev has had the balls to not have a NDA in place in it's third CB, obviously because it is confident and sure enough of what they have. Think about that and what it means.

Let your fear go, it is keeping your mind closed ;)

Originally posted by Foomerang

As much as I appreciate a hands on impression from mmorpg.com, im afraid youve inadvertently done more harm than good for ArcheAge. You got to level 5. You didnt even get out of the starter area; which is basically a tutorial that has standard quests to help players get used to all of the game features.

Now unfortunately, there are a lot of misinformed people thinking that is how the entire game works.

 

Exaclty, this is such a hack piece based on his mighty L5 experience... the devs gave access to so much more then this, but he apparently could not be bothered.

If Bill couldnt be bothered to log in more then once, and only get to L5, he should have given his slot to another member of their team or a  guest writer who could and would.

What a waste of a beta slot :/

Originally posted by Ballista
Really tired of reading the same misinformation: There is NO "safe" continent. The trainer areas that are safe end around level 20 (similar to Aion) and everywhere past those are open world pvp. This won't be a pve friendly game (unless Jake Song's team introduces more pve friendly initiatives or strict pk punishments) just like UO wasn't in it's population pinnacle until it introduced trammel which created a "safe" dimension. Until they release more tests and official server restrictions stop hyping this as a great pve game (to the pve crowd) because it won't be as of the current test build.

Sorry, this made me lol:)

Ballista, you need to reread EVERYTHING about this game before you join in the conversation again, just for your own benefit, because everything you has said so far is false.

There are three continents, one is FFA PvP, the other two are not.

AA should be pretty much a PvE friendly game if you stay on the protected continents. *edited to correct that I shouldnt make future predictions as fact*

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Originally posted by vesavius

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Originally posted by Ballista Really tired of reading the same misinformation: There is NO "safe" continent. The trainer areas that are safe end around level 20 (similar to Aion) and everywhere past those are open world pvp. This won't be a pve friendly game (unless Jake Song's team introduces more pve friendly initiatives or strict pk punishments) just like UO wasn't in it's population pinnacle until it introduced trammel which created a "safe" dimension. Until they release more tests and official server restrictions stop hyping this as a great pve game (to the pve crowd) because it won't be as of the current test build.

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    Sorry, this made me lol:)   Ballista, you need to reread EVERYTHING about this game before you join in the conversation again, just for your own benefit, because everything you has said so far is false.   There are three continents, one is FFA PvP, the other two are not.   AA is very much a PvE friendly game.  

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Originally posted by Yuui

Originally posted by vesavius

Originally posted by Ballista

Really tired of reading the same misinformation: There is NO "safe" continent. The trainer areas that are safe end around level 20 (similar to Aion) and everywhere past those are open world pvp. This won't be a pve friendly game (unless Jake Song's team introduces more pve friendly initiatives or strict pk punishments) just like UO wasn't in it's population pinnacle until it introduced trammel which created a "safe" dimension. Until they release more tests and official server restrictions stop hyping this as a great pve game (to the pve crowd) because it won't be as of the current test build.

 

 

Sorry, this made me lol:)

 

Ballista, you need to reread EVERYTHING about this game before you join in the conversation again, just for your own benefit, because everything you has said so far is false.

 

There are three continents, one is FFA PvP, the other two are not.

 

AA is very much a PvE friendly game.

 

And you are even more false.

How am I false?

I said the other two are not FFA PvP, and they are not. I spoke the truth.

I am fully confident that there will be enough protection on the two non FFA continents to make PvE play pretty headache free if it is desired.

This may be proved wrong as the game develops, if it is so be it, but thats what I believe from what I see right now.

Saw interesting footage on youtube from SteparuTV who uploaded like 5-10 Vids a day!

Unfortunatelly he just play the "cat"-race which I'm not a huge fan of. Maybe he or other people will play as regular humans in the near future and upload their impressinos aswell!

So far I can say I am really impressed by it's looks and also by it's combat. Not that hugely impressed compared to the nearly perfect TERA-combat - but still it looks challenging.

The only thing I do not like at the moment is that on most of the vast lanscapes, the terrain looks "a bit" empty. Not really abit - it looks empty. I got a commented on youtube people telling me that this is because housing is possible everywhere. Yes, okay but overall the terrain doesnt really look hand-crafted at all. More like automaticly generated.

We will see how it turns out...

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Originally posted by crunk001
Saw interesting footage on youtube from SteparuTV who uploaded like 5-10 Vids a day!
Unfortunatelly he just play the "cat"-race which I'm not a huge fan of. Maybe he or other people will play as regular humans in the near future and upload their impressinos aswell!
So far I can say I am really impressed by it's looks and also by it's combat. Not that hugely impressed compared to the nearly perfect TERA-combat - but still it looks challenging.
The only thing I do not like at the moment is that on most of the vast lanscapes, the terrain looks "a bit" empty. Not really abit - it looks empty. I got a commented on youtube people telling me that this is because housing is possible everywhere. Yes, okay but overall the terrain doesnt really look hand-crafted at all. More like automaticly generated.
 
We will see how it turns out...

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Not just housing.

Player villages with public buildings, warehouses, etc. Farmlands. Forests, vineyard-ish places, cattle growing places and so on.

In a sense the game is more focused on creating a NATURAL world, where you are not put into theme-park-ish 'setting" of "there be farm, there be temple, there be forest".

Literally EVERY server as it develops will look different from each other in one you might find a forest in the place, in other? Farm. In other? a village? in other god knows what else. and that IMO is among one of the best things this game offers.

Originally posted by crash3713

Originally posted by Sinella

Atlanta ? What makes you think that ? The servers are most likely in Korea.

http://archeagefans.com/ (AAsource). Its one of their little gee whiz facts about the game

Can you link the exact source, please ? I'm not able to find it on that site.

First five levels and you think you saw some quality??

First 10 levels made me disappointed in the game, b/c it "only" looked like a very polished traditional mmorpg.

After I got some friends and went to the ocean after building a ship with them, sailling around, experiencing the tactical depth needed to come out winning a naval battle, making assaults on towns of hostile factions, FFA, FvF, I was convinced this is "The Next Big Thing".

From what I have been seeing this game is looking really good.  Can't wait for the Western Version to come out, I hope it is not going to be too long now.

Originally posted by genkidashite

First five levels and you think you saw some quality??

First 10 levels made me disappointed in the game, b/c it only looked like a very polished traditional mmorpg.

After I got some friends and went to the ocean after building a ship with them, sailling around, experiencing the tactical depth needed to come out winning a naval battle, making assaults on towns of hostile factions, FFA, FvF, I was convinced this is "The Next Big Thing".

 Im confused are you saying this in a positive or a negative, because that last paragraph sounds like nothing but possitive for me.

Naval battles? Build your own ship?  Assualts on towns?   Sounds awesome.

Originally posted by sungodra

Originally posted by genkidashite

First five levels and you think you saw some quality??

First 10 levels made me disappointed in the game, b/c it only looked like a very polished traditional mmorpg.

After I got some friends and went to the ocean after building a ship with them, sailling around, experiencing the tactical depth needed to come out winning a naval battle, making assaults on towns of hostile factions, FFA, FvF, I was convinced this is "The Next Big Thing".

 Im confused are you saying this in a positive or a negative, because that last paragraph sounds like nothing but possitive for me.

 

Naval battles? Build your own ship?  Assualts on towns?   Sounds awesome.

 The quests early on was just average for a big title mmo.

But once the sandbox features heavily interact with your gameplay, you will be shocked at what great things this game is capable of. For me, I got confused many times during the CBT3, because I felt the game was better than UO for what UO is known for its greatness.... I am still confused if something has gotten wrong with me lol.

Originally posted by Ballista
@vesavius

Sorry to disappoint you but you're wrong. Reread what I wrote, on the current build after the level 20-25 area it turns to FFA on the "pve" continents in the current test build: basically the only true "safe" (no nonconsensual pvp) is the starter areas of the east and west continents. That's it. There may be changes by release (like some servers not offering FFA on all 3 servers) but as is that's how it is.

They already said that there would be servers with different PvP setup. It's not surprising that they didn't start separated PvP-PvE servers for the closed beta.

Based on the article and the comments below this seems like a pretty interesting game. 

It sounds interesting but the exagerated asian art style often puts me off, I will keep an eye on it though if for nothing else than the crafting.

My fear is that it is just themepark clone with a sandbox crafting layer over top. Seems to be the direction of developers these days (ie. Rift with dynamic content over boring clone base).

If I heard the world was fantasmically huge I wouldn't have any doubts but hearing it is about the same size as vanilla Wow was makes me cringe. 

Still worth keeping an eye out for but I seriously need a good non-fantasy mmo one of these days and put all this over done fantasy crap behind me.

I've been waiting for this game for 15 years and its finally shaping up to fall into my hands, this game sounds pretty much like everything I want in an MMO and is at least 2 generations ahead of anything else being made. Guild Wars 2, Star Wars or whatever all looks like complete shite to me compared to this.