Game is stable and is fun.

People complaining about hackers, usually only say so from Old sayings that there was alot of hacking (cheating really) being done in the game. You will encounter some at some point yes...

But do try to understand that maybe YOU are the problem, Not others... Learn from your mistakes, Look at how you get nailed. Then get better.

and for the ARMAS Store.... I beat people with ARMAS guns any time of the day.. The Gun doesnt make the shooter.. Also ARMAS guns allow for people who doesnt wanna play 300hrs to unlock a specific weapon, to Pay for it... wich is fine by me.

I do have a bit more issues with Clothing being REMOVED from original APB and put into the ARMAS store ,same with Symbols, Notably All the Custom Fonts are now only PAYABLE items if you wish to use them..

All in All... APBr is the game i was hoping to see. They did great and as for cheaters and people complaining about it.... IT EXISTED SINCE MULTIPLAYERS CAME AROUND. IT IS IN EVERY AND EACH MULTI PLAYER GAME YOU WILL EVER EXPERIENCE..>EVER ..

So instead of Crying over something that will always be there because people pay hackers to keep hacks Updated and running...  Try the game for what it is.

Thought I would throw in my thoughts on the game.  I've played about 60 hours total of Reloaded's closed and now open beta.  I always played over 400 hours of the RTW beta and original release of APB.

Gamer's first has made some minor changes to the game that I really like so far.  The first thing is what they have changed with weapon and character modifications.  In RTW's release, you could purchase weapon mods that would give you boosts like +10% damage per round, or +10% rate of fire.  These mods had no negative effects to go along with their added stats, so a lot of times newer players would be paired up against veterans using these mods giving them a huge advantage.  The mods now have been changed to give you a positive and negative effect.  You can have a gun that fires faster, but it will also have much more recoil.  This change may have been implemented before RTW shut it down, but either way it was a necessary change that had to be made.  The weapon imbalance in the original game made it almost impossible to win against players that had 3 level-3 mods in their weapons.

I'm not sure how I feel about the cash-shop items.  I understand that the game needs to be supported in some way, but I don't necessarily like the fact that anyone can buy upgraded weapons with real cash.  I would've prefered purely cosmetic items, or even vehicles with custom paint-jobs and graphics.  With that said, if you run into someone with a cash-shop weapon, you just need to know how to fight against them.  Any time you are in a mission, you can see the equipment that the other players are using and plan accordingly.  The most popular cash-shop weapon I've seen thus far is the scoped n-tek.  This weapon is very accurate if the user is standing still and aiming.  Otherwise, it's very difficult to use as it has accuracy penalties if the user moves and shoots at the same time.  So get close to them and use a SMG or Shotty and you'll win every time.

My thoughts on hackers....  Whoever claims this game is 'filled' with hackers is more than likely just getting outplayed.  I've been accused of hacks on a few occasions.  Really the difference is that I have played this game for a very long time, and when I do play, I'm in a vent server with the other people in my group.  It is not difficult to shoot and kill people in this game.  It's more of a team-based shooter than a third-person twitch shooter, so if you work with your team and communicate well, you'll win more often than lose, guaranteed.  I would highly recommend that anyone playing this game always be in a group, and preferably a group of clannies that you know are decent players.  You will have far more success doing that than if you play solo or in PUGs.  

Those are my thoughts for now.  To sum it all up, it's largely the same game, especially when you're talking about the core gameplay and shooting aspects.  There have been some good weapon balance changes regarding mods, and some other minor changes, and a new threat system.  Get in, give it a try, it's free after all.  Make sure to play with a group.

I'll just wait for Guild Wars 2, but thanks.

and there are only a handful of missions

The missions within APB Reloaded are admittedly a little on the slim side, but all together they work a lot better than before.

Adam - Not sure precisely what you mean or how much you have played but I have been playing for quite a while and as your advance through the contacts and increase your Rank the missions you get become longer & more varied. As a new player you will see touches of this if your group is ever called in as backup to some higher rank players with missions up to 7-9 stages long I think.

The objectives themselves are usually drive to location/locations & then do something or defend something with the odd capture an object and hold it or be the most to capture certain points, capture and hold the most points, set and protect your bomb, assasinate/protect a VIP (which is a designated player) etc. The Objectives themselves are pretty standard shooter fare with some minor variety ie: break into object/torch object/bomb object so I guess you may find the various goals repetitive as the missions are generally a mixture of several goal types in each stage.

That said fans of FPS/TPS and even the saints row or GTA games will enjoy this I think, I know I am still enjoying it despite being in closed beta for a long while and my friends are ennjoying it now too in Open Beta.

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Its because these guys go into the game, they're not GOOD at it and so they blame hackers.

Then come here and try to denounce the game as been "overrun with hackers" when in reality, they're just bad at it.

I'm bad at APB, I don't blame hackers, I blame myself.

Can't comment on the game now, but a couple of months after the game was released... at higher ranks (300+) the game was FULL of hackers. It's pretty damn obvious who hacked or not, people doing 180 spins and locking to target instantly, people shooting you from across the map with oca's and ntech's without missing a shot etc...

Hopefully things have improved, but I have my doubts.

still have my doubts about the game, it has a nasty habit of overheating laptops and some desktops... even swapping from high to low settings  (even though my laptop is 3.33 ghz and a nvidia 480M card with 12 gigs of ram) the game has a habit of overheating my laptop

i can run unreal tournament 3 and 2k4 for over 24 hours before a slight change in performance and even crysis for roughly 16 hours before a change in performance... but on this it only lasts about 3 hours or less (pending on the time mylaptop is turned on) and it will cause shutdowns.

games fun and all...but i feel like their recent update has caused some coding errors... APB original didnt have this issue with me, and APBr Closed beta before two week announcement of Open Beta I never had this issue...

also, Gold weapons are a bitch for lower ranks, since it turns their weapons into instant sniper rifles (IE the shotgun has rifling 3 which gives it perfect circles all around everywhere they shoot)

a HVR can dispatch them but the thing i hate is when they unload a shotgun faster than a SMG can into a car...

there are pros and cons to this game... just wish things were come to more pros than what im looking at

I actually thought the game was fun for a couple of days till i realized..Hey! I suck at this game!

Aiming in this game is not very easy. Well not for me !

My hat goes off to players that actually have skill and not using Aimbot...

If your good at shooters , and like mmorpg's ..check it out !

Even though i suck at it im not gonna diss it cause it is still loads of fun!

Played both versions of this game and it felt like the same repetitive gameplay in both instances.

I'm not allowed to shoot people in real life while simultaneously driving over them in a car.

That's why I wanna try this.  Also, free stuff is free stuff.

Edit:  Lol did someone actually complain about an FPS being repetitive?  Have they ever played the genre before?  All you do is pick the same maps, the same amount of people and the same guns and run the same paths to shoot the same enemy.

I think Apb will end with a good playerbase atleast a decent one and will find its niche  amoung the players

I am just sooo very turned off by the fact that there are no permanent weapons in the game unless youre willing to shell out 50+$ per permanent weapon....FAILLLLL -.-

I cant understand how people can do this >.< srsly  I was excited to try it but now Im just like "MEH" because of how they changed weapons. 

Unless games like "Counter-Strike" and "Team Fortress 2", required End-Game content. I see no reason why APB needs it. The emphasis of level-ratings in that game is just to control customization and weaponry options, not who the hell you're fighting. This isn't a damn MMO as much as it is an open-world deathmatch.

The older players (and the players with money) have too much power against the newer players who have to fight not only against experience but also better equiped enemies.

To compensate, the matchmaking system will put those older players against a greater number of new players. The result will depend on the nature of the mission, if the new players can spawn fast enough to interrupt the older player's objective, all while getting slaughered.

In general, the shooter part of the game is very poor, and the progression tiring and boring for all.

Right this minute...APB is a hacker/exploiter den. Plain and simple. There are so many hacks and exploits that you HAVE TO laugh. Playing less than week ago there was a gent flying around above the world in his car, shooting rockets and randomly disappearing...you cannot take a game seriously that has that happening in it. A flying rocket shooting car that teleports? Didn't they shut Auto Assault down already?

Originally posted by osc8r

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Its because these guys go into the game, they're not GOOD at it and so they blame hackers.

Then come here and try to denounce the game as been "overrun with hackers" when in reality, they're just bad at it.

I'm bad at APB, I don't blame hackers, I blame myself.

Can't comment on the game now, but a couple of months after the game was released... at higher ranks (300+) the game was FULL of hackers. It's pretty damn obvious who hacked or not, people doing 180 spins and locking to target instantly, people shooting you from across the map with oca's and ntech's without missing a shot etc...

Hopefully things have improved, but I have my doubts.

 

 

Well G1 implemented Punkbuster which is a good start, its probably as good as you are likely to get in a F2P title as far as cheat prevention goes. As other mentioned there were more hackers before open Beta. The Devs claimed in CB that they were watching them to learn from them & when open Beta came most of them got banned so I guess there was some method to the madness.

Originally posted by Castillle

I am just sooo very turned off by the fact that there are no permanent weapons in the game unless youre willing to shell out 50+$ per permanent weapon....FAILLLLL -.-

 

I cant understand how people can do this >.< srsly  I was excited to try it but now Im just like "MEH" because of how they changed weapons. 

 

Honestly I was like that at first & to some extent I think they should ditch weapon hire and go with weapons that wear out from use (IE: can fire a fixed number of rounds) but oh well. Once you reach the higher levels weapon hire is really not a big deal, you have plenty of cash & can easily make back what it costs to hire a 2 slot weapon for 10 days in about 2-3 hours of playing missions. The $50 ($60 if you arent a subscriber) for a permenant weapon in the cash shop is a joke I agree, however none of the weapons are that overly powerfull than others to the point one weapon will not cause total player dominance so you dont have to buy it, I certainly wont be.

Originally posted by TatsuOyama

Right this minute...APB is a hacker/exploiter den. Plain and simple. There are so many hacks and exploits that you HAVE TO laugh. Playing less than week ago there was a gent flying around above the world in his car, shooting rockets and randomly disappearing...you cannot take a game seriously that has that happening in it. A flying rocket shooting car that teleports? Didn't they shut Auto Assault down already?

 

Not sure if serious ? I mean really this sounds like an over exageration. As I said earlier I saw cheats in Closed Beta, some of them were completely blatant about cheating too but I have never seen any single example as extreme as what you suggest in any FPS/TPS game I have played online & I have been playing them for a lot of years over a lot of titles including CrimeCraft which is also F2P and is definitely Riddled with cheats.

My closing comment is if you like FPS/TPS or are a fan of GTA/Saints Row Series then check out APB, you have nothing to lose since it is free.

I played the beta for a few hours on a couple days when it came out, and honestly, they are attempting a Grand Theft Auto online.  Now I did not play the original game, so I do not know how much as changed, but this game is horribly horribly wrong.  Car controls are ridiculously slow, everything feels like a tank, gun battles are horrendous, you can't even see where shots are landing half the time, and if you do take time to try to find out where rounds are going downrange, you are probably dead anyways.  Game is very very buggy and just not fun at all.

I have been playing since closed beta, and honestly i don't see all those hackers.

I se epeople calling hacker everyone that is very good in playing. I had friends being called hackers just cause they are very good in that game. I am not very good, i am at my best an average player in APB, i think people should just recognize that the game need time to get adjusted. Sometime yes, there is the occasional hacker, but most of hte time is just people pissed off cause they lost a match. 

Happen time to time that you have a very bad streak and no matter what, you seem to just get killed over and over, as it happens, to me at least, sometime seem everything i do is gold, i kill 4 enemies one after another, go to the objective, complete it and do it again five minutes later on another mission.

I think 90% of the people that get called hacker in APB are just skilled players.

there is some performance issues atm but its open beta hopefully theyw illg et it fixed out dysynced seems ot be fixed tho

Good to hear I'm not the only one confronted to the obvious absence of hackers in this game.. No matter what people are saying.. This all smells like a lot of trolling to me.. But anyway, welcome to the internet...

As for the guns, I admit they're pushing hard for the permanent unlock.. 50 $ for an item is a lot.. But as someone said before, you can gather the money to get the exact same gun for 10 days in about an hour or two..

Think those 10 days weapons aren't as bad as much people think.. It could help balance the economy in the game in fact.. People used to get rich very early.. If they have to ditch out a couple in game bucks once in a while to get their weapons, I don't see that as a problem at all...