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  Species5021

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Joined: 9/16/08
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5/25/11 4:15:26 AM#61

This game is amazing, its really challenging but fun nonetheless, the way you do quests and kill monsters is amazing. Starting a fight without tactic is deadly and running away is something you really don't want to do. Dieing is more like a moment of reflection of what's gone wrong then a real punishment and there a lot of options to starting a fight, last night i trapped a corridor of forest with 17 traps and lured a spider queen trough it and she landed dead at my feet right on the last trap!


Just..Wow...Battle can be shaky with the sword sometimes i agree but think it along rpg lines, the guy has lost his memory and has to basically start over, after that he wouldn't start as the best swordsman in the land right? I am amazed by this game and if you decide to play it then give it time. Also QUICKSAVE IS YOUR FRIEND!


  zymurgeist

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5/25/11 6:55:55 AM#62

I didn't buy a computer to play console games. One day game developers will figure this out. They can make everything else about the game amazing  but if they turn it into a  controller twitchfest I won't buy it. Same crap the did to tombraider and every action rpg since.

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  thexrated

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5/25/11 8:55:27 AM#63

Just like with the combat in the original, TW2 requires sometime to get used to it. People who expect cookie-cutter RPG combat will have to get used to it. I think it is unfortunate, if you quit this excellent game just because you did not take sometime learning the ropes. The combat gets better once you get used it.

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  blueturtle13

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5/25/11 8:57:19 AM#64

the issue with a lot of supposed rpg fans today is they are never happy. This game is amazing. If you do not prefer the style of play that is understandable. But make no mistake about it, the Witcher 2 is a great rpg.

  shakermaker0

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5/25/11 10:18:42 AM#65

+1 


  Kshahdoo

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5/25/11 4:04:10 PM#66

Just lol on those who compare the only mature RPG series The Witcher (ah, sorry, my bad I forgot Gothic 1&2) to teenager crap aka BioWare or role-playing nothing aka Morrowind/Oblivion.


Every single BioWare game was designed to please western teenagers. Even the best ones like BG 1&2. They were so childish considering characterization, that I was always lauphing hard when saw as those so called archmages (Imoen and Nalia) acted like 16 old girls. KotOR and DAO were even worse. And this black/white mentality is pretty childish as well. Children don't understand that people mostly aren't good or bad, but just well people.


And as to Bethesda crap, why on earth would I take Morrowind/Oblivion before Dark Fall? DF has 100 times more freedom, 100 times larger world, 100 times more mobs and other content and in addition some people to play with. Morrowind/Oblivion don't have a single living character. They all are bots. All look the same, act the same, feel the same. They all are the same. Yeah, Fallout 3 was a different story, but it wasn't as good as Witcher 2 is.


  Kshahdoo

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5/25/11 4:14:15 PM#67

And I just laugh on those who say The Witcher 2 is hard. I's, a 44 years old old fart managed to get through prologue on hard level, and tuned it later to normal not because I couldn't bear it, but because I didn't feel on it that Geralt was a superb fighter as he actually was. After the 1st act Geralt starts to chop through enemies like a meat grinder.


  gaeanprayer

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5/26/11 2:12:31 AM#68

Originally posted by Kshahdoo



Just lol on those who compare the only mature RPG series The Witcher (ah, sorry, my bad I forgot Gothic 1&2) to teenager crap aka BioWare or role-playing nothing aka Morrowind/Oblivion.




Every single BioWare game was designed to please western teenagers. Even the best ones like BG 1&2. They were so childish considering characterization, that I was always lauphing hard when saw as those so called archmages (Imoen and Nalia) acted like 16 old girls. KotOR and DAO were even worse. And this black/white mentality is pretty childish as well. Children don't understand that people mostly aren't good or bad, but just well people.




And as to Bethesda crap, why on earth would I take Morrowind/Oblivion before Dark Fall? DF has 100 times more freedom, 100 times larger world, 100 times more mobs and other content and in addition some people to play with. Morrowind/Oblivion don't have a single living character. They all are bots. All look the same, act the same, feel the same. They all are the same. Yeah, Fallout 3 was a different story, but it wasn't as good as Witcher 2 is.



 


Comparing a game with visible flaws to games that have held up as some of the most beloved across many kinds of player-type and domegraphic gaps makes you sound like you've never actually played the games you're bashing, which I'm betting, because none of those games you mentioned were about 'black and white'. It was those games that make decision-making such a unique part of the experience that other games, like Witcher, which came AFTERWARD decided to capitalize on.


Whether or not you're playing with AI or real people is absolutely irrelevant to this discussion seeing as how 1) we're talking about a single player RPG and 2) you're comparing Witcher to other games which by your logic, would also be fail just because it's single-player. And Darkfall was one hell of a failure, honestly if you want any credibility you'll take that title out of your vocabulary with the quickness.


And there is nothing mature about the romance in Witcher. Triss spends almost the entire game naked offering very little than a wave of her hand and a sparkle as a charade that she is powerful, but she rarely if ever does anything useful. She's too busy bleeding from the nose and fainting everytime she has to make an effort. Don't fool yourself, she's just there as portable pussy for Geralt, which is fine, but the only thing 'mature' about it is the rating. It's fratboy mentality. Call it like it is.


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  Reckinyards

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5/26/11 3:42:17 AM#69

I used to prefer consoles over PCs for games, now i pretty much need a PC for nearly every game

  Erstok

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5/27/11 11:11:14 AM#70

The combat isn't bad, it just needs some minor working.  Just can't seem to get the feel for it.  I wouldn't use stiff for the word, but I wouldn't use fully fluent and perfect either.  Blocking I swear has a mind of it's own, but it wasn't till later I found rolling you can't block a few seconds after he stands back up.  As for the sword gameplay it's a simple mindless button masher for the most part but seems half the time you either get swarmed by about 50 people and you cant hit anything or you just get gang raped and again the blocking comes off like it has a mind of it's own.


Story line isn't bad but ffs can these damn developrs lay off the sex.  Just because it's an RPG game doesn't mean it needs sex.  Bioware is just as guilty of this crap these days.  Since when did it become manditory for the main character to(quite literally) sleep with anything willing to bend over in an RPG?  It's fucking redundant and stupid.  I don't play games to get my jollies off.  Play games for the adventure and immersion.  Not to be a god damn town whore/village bycicle.


Overall I would say a good game with some minor flaws and seriously just needs the sex portion thrown out, it's just there for preteen little boys to masturebate to.  This game is a step up from Dragon Age games along with Oblivion for sure with the story and gameplay.  But down the road after I beat it(for me anyway) it wont be as memorable as BG:2 or PS:2.



When did you start playing "old school" MMO's. World Of Warcraft?

  psyclum

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Posts: 800

5/28/11 10:41:43 PM#71

witcher2 is a disappointment.

it's a decent game plagued by horrible controls.   the game itself isnt too hard, but the controls makes the game very hard to play.   every swing of the sword moves you forward by between 3 to 5 feet, so after about 4 or 5 swings of the sword, all of the mobs you are fighting are behind you taking advantage of that 200% dmg bonus of being hit from behind.  you cant back up in this game.  every time you try to back up your toon turns around exposing your back to the enemy to that 200% dmg bouns.

even though the controls are WASD, there isnt any way to ACTUALLY back up.  every time you back up, you actually turn around and expose your back to the mobs you are fighting.   there isnt any way to pin yourself in the corner or prevent yourself from moving forward with every single swing of the sword.  so essentially, you are constantly fighting with how the game moves rather then playing the game itself.  this wasnt as big of an issue in witcher1 but it has became a HUGE problem in witcher2.  i assume is due to their attempt to keep console port in mind while developing the game. 

overall, the game wasnt too bad, but it would have been a great game if they stuck with true WASD controls rather then the ghetto console style controls.

  Stuka1000

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5/29/11 10:35:57 PM#72

I'm one of the few it seems that dislikes this game.  The 1st one was a deep and enjoyable PC RPG experience;  This one is a simple button smashing game that has been shamelessly developed with consoles in mind and is bugged to hell and back.


  SuperXero89

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5/29/11 11:11:54 PM#73


Originally posted by Rawiz

Seriously now, can you imagine Geralt being a woman? He is like the Al Bundy of mediaval times.. there's just no way to spin it. Personally I couldn't be happier with this, and I've played at least 3 female chars in Kotor, Fallout 3 and Fallout:NV.

A female Geralt would just seem unnatural.

 

I don't think anyone wants a female Geralt *shudder*  Rather, the option for a female main character, who would be scripted to fit the role.  Or, what I'd personally prefer, creating my own character, with the character's responses kept vague enough to leave more to the imagination.  I want to be able to pretend it's my character I'm playing, not theirs, whatever the gender.

To me, that's what RPGs are all about, with heavily scripted predefined characters being more of an action game thing.

This is Witcher and  unlike the other games that allows you to create your character this one is based on a book and considered a sequel in some way..

Taking off Geralt kills all the point of the game, it would just be another fantasy rpg like Dragon Age..

That doesn't speak well for the game then.  Why not just pick up a Witcher novel and save $45?

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