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4/27/11 12:46:23 PM#21
Even in the US, more than 40% of all borrowers pay their credit card in full each month and avoid interest payments. The banks can make enough of a profit off of the merchant fees to pay some rewards back, although obviously they don't make as much off of these accounts as the ones they can load up with fees.
The real issue to me would be if they could come up with an attractive enough package to interest some gamers when they are competing with cards that give back cash that can be spent anywhere. |
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VengeSunsoar
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Joined: 3/10/04
GRIND DOES NOT EXIST. IT IS ENTIRELY YOUR PERCEPTION. |
4/27/11 1:20:51 PM#22
Personally I think having yet another institution that knows nothing about games that has an incentive to tell developers how to develop games and than target me, because I play games, to enlist in their service and create a middle man between how and where I spend my money and the game developers is just a horrible horrible idea. Bad for games and bad for the consumer. Venge You know, in ancient Egypt. One of the hieroglyphics on the walls of the pyramids actually says 'I am upset as my heir will ruin my kingdom' or something to that affect. This is 5000BC stuff and you know what? Nothing has changed. :P |
Originally posted by VengeSunsoar Our discussion does not include game development, it does not have the banks instructing companies on how to produce their products. As for being targetted. You are part of a group of people, those people play video games. When you are part of a group, you will be targetted. Money is to be made in this industry, it hasn't even been tapped. As the flow of money relating to the gaming industry explodes, it is important (and rewarding) for financial intermediaries to get involved and capitalize on the flows. Added ability of cross selling other products and involving the gaming community further in their finances is a fantastic idea. The ideas are great for games since they inscend you to purchase more of them or use your money in the industry somehow, this improves the industry as a whole. |
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VengeSunsoar
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Joined: 3/10/04
GRIND DOES NOT EXIST. IT IS ENTIRELY YOUR PERCEPTION. |
4/27/11 4:51:45 PM#24
To think that a bank giving a company money, potentially a lot of money, on behalf of their customers and then saying that that bank won't try to affect the development, or that the developers would ignore the bank (a potential huge amount of income) is patently rediculous. Therefore the discussion would include game development, banks would consider themselves part of the community and attempt to impact it, probably with much much more success than anyone on these forums. The point is I don't want to be targeted by my financial instiution for my gaming hobby. I don't feel that introducing yet another level of bureaucracy , another level of marketing, another level of people who don't play games, who can impact game development choices would be good for anyone other than the banks. Venge You know, in ancient Egypt. One of the hieroglyphics on the walls of the pyramids actually says 'I am upset as my heir will ruin my kingdom' or something to that affect. This is 5000BC stuff and you know what? Nothing has changed. :P |
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4/27/11 5:54:59 PM#25
Originally posted by Sovrath End of Thread. |
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Originally posted by waynejr2 The problem with discussion threads is that during them the OP becomes irrelevent. We are no longer considering changing banks, but opening a credit card with one that offers a large rebate to be spent on computer games. |
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4/27/11 7:20:27 PM#27
Originally posted by Divinefairy Saving a buck fifty is meaningless. I spend more on something to drink everyday. |
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Originally posted by waynejr2 Alright, well I take this as you have either not read anyhting in this thread whatsoever, or are not planning on adding anything constructive, or both (likely) which is clearly the point of the discussion. Thanks for the input though, have a good one. |
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4/27/11 10:14:28 PM#29
Originally posted by VengeSunsoar Eh, yes and no. I don't see them interfering with development, in the same way that a bank would not sponsor Colgate and then turn around and say "You need to make a money-flavored toothpaste. Chop chop." However, if there was any kind of MMO scandal on par with Hot Coffee or Mass Effect's sex scenes, I could easily see a bank saying "Get that out of your game by Friday or we're pulling out", completely regardless of the actual offensiveness of the content. ![]() |
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4/27/11 10:22:37 PM#30
Originally posted by Disdena Possibly but there is less money to be made by enforciing cencorship. Remember, even Disney has companies within its umbrella that make movies for adults over kids. What they could do is set something up like most credit cards that have perks. For instance, I have a card that gives me perks for having a car. Which I don't have. It just sort of evolved into that over the many years I had it. The one time I called them and said "hey, I don't own a car, what other sorts of perks could I get" I was politely referred to their website and found that everything else on that site was also useless to me. Now, if I had a card where if I spent a certain amount of dollars I then got poitns that could be used with game companies then that would be a better deal. As a poitn of note, American Express has a business card (and might have this for individuals) where you earn points that then can be spent with other major companies such as "Apple". so it's not beyond the pale that they could set up a similiar thing with people who play games. |
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Originally posted by Sovrath I didn't know that existed, it's a great idea if you could bring that to retail banking customers. It's essentially an SPC for older folks. Put 20 companies on the card, maybe 20 of the major corporate/retail customers for that particular bank, and provide rebates (above the regular cash rebates) to that company. A) it entices people to buy from that company. B) From the bank's perspective, if successful, it encourages their customers that are not on the card, but want to be, to provide more business. C) you could add gaming companies to it to entice a new generation of money. Gamer's are not targetted by the financial system at all. At least to my knowledge. And in coming years it's a great opportunity for mutual growth and initiatives. |
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Loktofeit
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Joined: 1/13/10
EVE in 2013 - DUST 514, CSM8, Fanfest, 10th Anniversary, Uprising, Odyssey. Gonna be a good year :) |
4/28/11 9:23:18 AM#32
This thread is reading more and more like those 'Earn Free Points' sections in PBBGs and F2P MMOs where you sign up for credit cards, netflix accounts, take surveys, etc. Have you considered just going that route, DF? filmoret: One thing I have never figured out is why the game devs hardly ever fix simple problems that arise. It is like they don't care about the pvp community. Nitth: What makes you so sure its a simple fix? filmoret: Because most of them are. Sometimes its just changing a number in a code string other times its creating a few variables. However none of them should take over a few hours of coding. |
Originally posted by Loktofeit They don't have a rich enough consumer base, imo. |
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Loktofeit
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EVE in 2013 - DUST 514, CSM8, Fanfest, 10th Anniversary, Uprising, Odyssey. Gonna be a good year :) |
4/28/11 9:51:23 AM#34
Sovrath's post was an interesting one as it goes back to reward points which have become rather common lately, so the offer of something like PlaySpan's Ultimate Game Card would have a very wide appeal and could even encourage cross-marketing and cross-promotion as people may obtain the card in one game solely to accumulate points for another. filmoret: One thing I have never figured out is why the game devs hardly ever fix simple problems that arise. It is like they don't care about the pvp community. Nitth: What makes you so sure its a simple fix? filmoret: Because most of them are. Sometimes its just changing a number in a code string other times its creating a few variables. However none of them should take over a few hours of coding. |
Originally posted by Loktofeit I wonder though if the consumer base for the creation of a card just for gamers is a profitable venture. It costs a lot more than believed to set up a card. |
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