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General Discussion  » RIFT EU servers are GhostTowns during peak hours now

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4/21/11 5:56:30 AM#41

Trion made a mistake and added too many new servers for release after all queues on headstart. So I guess those servers might have population issues and merging those would be a good idea. Tho if I were Trion I'd wait with merges for TERA or some another hyped MMO open beta/launch goes live so haters will move and make "the sky is falling" threads there.

As for servers from headstart and Sparkwing which I play on - absolutely no issues. During event zerg of lvl 50 players cleared 4 Stillmoor(1 of 2 lvl 50 areas) bosses under 5 minutes. Whole event was like 30 minutes tops till phase 3. So definetely players are out there.

Then end game outside expert dungeons and raids is a bit lackluster for more casual players. Need more activities for that PuG style players which were catered thorough whole game via rifts and invasions. Have to wait and see what Trion does as so far it's really solid in terms of fast reacting on all major issues.

Last thing is WoW spoiled people expectations. Blizz really delivered and made new standard in MMO games. Thus I realy doubt You'll see MMO that will repeat that success in terms of population(12 millions active subs). Also there won't be shocking novelty or more content at start - be it Rift, Tera, SW:TOR or GW2. So either deal with fact that MMOs few months after launch will be worse than WoW in terms of population and content or go back to aged now Azeroth(not pointing this at sandbox lovers as neither WoW nor Rift are their piece of cake). I admit that this can be a poor choice but all I see now are people expecting impossible.

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4/21/11 6:04:38 AM#42

I disagree with the 'ghost town' statement. At peak hours on Argent, I am having little trouble finding guildies, PUGs, and random people to do group stuff with, from dungeons to rifts. I haven't tried PvP in this game yet, so battleground numbers don't interest me. But yeah, I'm finding plenty of people to roleplay with and quest with.

I don't much care for official numbers, so I won't be running any /who lists anytime soon. Game is flowing nicely for my required level of enjoyment.


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4/21/11 6:19:04 AM#43

server merges are bound to happen since Trion added A LOT of new servers at the beginning. They knew (we all knew in fact) that this would happen and there's no way to avoid it, unless rift magically attracts thousands of new players which i dont think is going to happen.. so Its the right thing to do and a good idea if you ask me. Nobody likes to wander around empty towns waiting 2 hours for a group. I dont get it why everyone thinks server merges are such a bad idea.


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4/21/11 6:41:52 AM#44

No. That is quite not what I experience. I play in the German PVE-RP server. Forgot the name, but it is full at prime time and even busy on other hours. So no, I entirely can't confirm that.

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4/21/11 7:52:53 AM#45

Also the WHO command doesn't show players who are in Warfronts or porting between zones.

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4/21/11 8:16:03 AM#46
Originally posted by Shodanas
Originally posted by Apeg

Time for server merge I guess. Nothing special in the MMO genre.

This early? The game went live only 2 months ago.

It wouldn't be surprising. I mean, they did open 30 servers right after launch to accommodate the early buyers. If a standard game carries about a 60% retention rate on a good day, that means a lot of servers will become empty.

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4/21/11 10:18:59 AM#47

I find this to be a perfect example of ghostown server...oh wait...

Screenie was taken during last weekend event. I wonder if I'll now see conspiracy theories about Trion making servers full while they weren't...


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4/21/11 10:59:45 AM#48

Originally posted by crazynanny
I find this to be a perfect example of ghostown server...oh wait...

Screenie was taken during last weekend event. I wonder if I'll now see conspiracy theories about Trion making servers full while they weren't...

You do realize just how silly this makes you look? You picked one server as an example of how servers aren't ghost towns when there still could be dozens that are. You also took a screenshot from the time when they were giving free trials to anyone who wanted one, of course there was a heavy population.

There are still 5 or 6 high pop servers at prime time and I'm sure there are at least 5 or 6 more that are high medium. That doesn't mean there aren't a dozen that are struggling with pop too.


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4/21/11 11:14:12 AM#49

I play on Argent. Argent has never had the status full, mostly medium, but it's nice and busy there. I can also always play WF's within 15 minutes. So you statement that RIFT EU servers are ghosttowns is not true. It might be true for some servers, but I don't feel the need to go check that out.


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4/21/11 11:17:25 AM#50

Trion made the correct decision by providing plenty of capacity at the begining, customers want to get in quickly and not queue so they clealry picked an option to suit their customer's needs rather than vice versa.  it's not acceptable for them to leave a small populated server as is so they will need to merge otherwise they will simply lose the players permanantly on that server.  Best option for those stuck on a low pop server is to join a big guild and keep an eye out for server transfers/merges.

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4/21/11 11:17:32 AM#51
Originally posted by crazynanny

I find this to be a perfect example of ghostown server...oh wait...

Screenie was taken during last weekend event. I wonder if I'll now see conspiracy theories about Trion making servers full while they weren't...

Last weekend....that was during the free play event was it not ?

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4/21/11 11:25:14 AM#52
Originally posted by Deadalon

There as been alot of talk lately about RIFT population sever instabilites.  Some server are said to be crowded - but now more and more posts are coming out that alot of servers are emptying really fast.  

Trion has now found a reason to start closing topics that point out that some servers are totally empty- even during peak hours. 

Its actually very easy to check how many ppl are online on each server when they become so totally empty.  The /who is limited to 28 lines.  Over the past 3-4 days.. my server has NEVER had 28 characters at lvl 50 for each class in game.  I did a total headcount on the server last monday 19:30-20:00 (server time) on guardian site and we had 359 ppl online.  Thats in TOTAL.

The solution that Trion is finding atm is to hide these facts.  Close posts about it and try instead to show images with server full msg - that happened during an awfull World event - where the solution from TRION was to limit the number of players online to few hundreds to prevent server collapse.

Here is an example of a post that is on General chat that has been closed.

I dare you to go into WoW and type /who Rogue 85 and see if you EVER get more 40 results, You won't. Same with most other classes (Save Death Knight). The point is, this is normal for MMORPGs.

On my server in WoW there were *16* level 85 Rogues during peak hours. In my entire life on that Server the average was always 16.

Priests? 23. Ironically more people played priests for some reason..

Some servers are more populated than others. If you pick a low pop or "recommended" server, chances are your experience will vary drastically to someone who picked "Medium" to "high".

Posts like this only spread false information based on a limited system of determining population growth. You might as well stick a bunch of people in a room and start head counts.

Also, being guildless can give the illusion that the server is "Smaller" and "Lifeless". When I was leveling on a completely different server during the relase of Cata, I was guildless. Despite the fact that the game was new and people were starting over, the world felt empty and I felt alone most of the time.



And before anyone says "Well, in WoW on my server there's way more than 40 of each class". Like I said, server populations vary. Want a more populated server? Find one. Or better yet, get a guild and do guild stuff. Also, your example post was LOCKED because it violated the forum rules, not because there's some secret government conspiracy to hide the truth. Posts like these should be considered trolling and locked because all these do is incite flame wars. I honestly don't see why puts up with them so much..


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4/21/11 11:44:08 AM#53

Yeah some of those later wow servers never had a good population, especially the PvP ones they released right after TBC.

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4/21/11 11:50:25 AM#54

Don't forget you don't view the people from the other faction in your search.


I play on Spitescar US as Defiant, and there is no lack of players on during peak hours, and thats with the fact that 80% of the server is Guardian.


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4/21/11 11:54:09 AM#55
Originally posted by nickster29

Don't forget you don't view the people from the other faction in your search.


I play on Spitescar US as Defiant, and there is no lack of players on during peak hours, and thats with the fact that 80% of the server is Guardian.

True that. Some factions are more populated than others, too. Could be that you got unlucky and picked a high pop realm with a low pop guardian/defiant ratio. And example would be Auchindoun from WoW. High pop realm, but the alliance population is meager compared to the Horde. Area 52 is another good example.


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4/21/11 12:00:20 PM#56

If anyone is interested in wow server pop (characterss active in last 30 days per server I think).  Imean the data is not perfect cause it is submited by an addon that players have to upload data from.  But it sure beats Low, Med, High.

and my server (Ghostlands)

Maybe some enterprizing coder could do the same for rift .... woops no addons.  I do remember them saying (somewhere) that all their data would be accessable to those building fansites and the like.  I could not find any api in the fansite kit, and the FAQ was in french (Yes I downloaded the english version).

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4/21/11 12:13:46 PM#57

Ok when it comes to FANS of RIFT there is no peoblem with servers its just you. I play on US and EU servers and peak hours lol there is ONE most the time HIGH server and its PVP not Ger but Eng. On peak hours US its the PVP and some RP servers that are high. Yet nothing like it was the 1st month. You can read in the froums how others are noticing people gone and servers being empty. I play on both sides and when it says MED its like a ghost town on both sides.

Saying theres no problem makes no difference. This is not World of Warcraft. As of now US/EU only ONE Server is high and thats EU eng pvp. I feel like I am back in AoC where every server shows the same lol like now.. EVERY server on US is med. Yet you get in and where are all these people? You go to zones like 30-50 and .. empty.. anyway its still fun for me.

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4/21/11 12:49:14 PM#58
Originally posted by gigat

Honestly, what's the big deal?


If you enjoy playing RIFT, then play it. Don't go around spewing garbage about this or that.


So true, either play or don't play. Why do some people like the OP feel the need to poison other people's fun?


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4/21/11 6:11:17 PM#59

Winge about que times : they add servers.

Winge about low pop: they remove servers

Next world event: we need more servers!!

Seriously, we cant have it both ways.

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4/21/11 6:19:06 PM#60

Yeah I could really care less about populations.  As it is right now I am having tons of fun and for some reason I find myself surrounded pretty much all the time by dozens of people even outside of peak times.  So I am not sure what these others are looking at but it sure does not feel as if there is a problem with populations.  Could just be me or the server im on,  sure there arent millions of people in every area as it was at launch but its definately not empty either.

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