i loved how before the game released they were all like "YOU'VE GOT WINGS AND YOU CAN FLY!" and then it's just

boring and lame kiting that just outright sucks.

Originally posted by Unknown23

i loved how before the game released they were all like "YOU'VE GOT WINGS AND YOU CAN FLY!" and then it's just

boring and lame kiting that just outright sucks.

If you ever look at the first trailer of the game.  About 60% of what you see was never put in the game.  You see climbing, crazy caverns and such, you see a huge giant colossus come out of ground with whole bunch of players flying to fight it.   And on top of that, that horrible girl "Lani Blazier" that was probably just in videos to get males to come check out the game seemingly had no clue about the game she was promoting.  When you watch those old videos of her talking about the game, she was doing exactly what you said.  "When I look up there is the other world of players and you can fly"  crap.  it was kind of humiliating to just watch it.  She was a ditz...  Then you get in game and you don't see any of the things the videos showed.  Why?  Because they were all cinamatics or rendered outside of the game. 

This is the reason I NEVER EVER take a video from NCSoft and take it for face value.  They promote their stuff with more than what it really has.   They even doing it to GW2 somewhat.   Not saying GW2 will be bad, I am actually looking forward to the game myself but don't get your hopes up high watching the trailers is all I'm saying.

Anyone that has played Aion, watch this original trailer and you'll laugh your arse off.  What's worse, the videos didn't stop there, even after the game was released in Korea, they released more trailers for the NA with visuals of content that never made it to the game, ever.

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Originally posted by NeoPlasmaX
If you ever look at the first trailer of the game.  About 60% of what you see was never put in the game.  You see climbing, crazy caverns and such, you see a huge giant colossus come out of ground with whole bunch of players flying to fight it.

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Anyways, about leveling, if you don't do potion and some other crafting (weapon or armor) then it will be a lot harder to levelup solo. Personally I had little trouble getting to lvl 40 on Sorc then Templar.

About server being empty, check for other ones, check forums, but probably there aren't THAT many players playing Aion in general. I would only return to check Aion 2.6 with my free month from ExSteel, so not any time soon. :P

Cheers.

Originally posted by Bumer/goga

 

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Originally posted by NeoPlasmaX
If you ever look at the first trailer of the game.  About 60% of what you see was never put in the game.  You see climbing, crazy caverns and such, you see a huge giant colossus come out of ground with whole bunch of players flying to fight it.

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True that, NCsoft never delivered on a lot of "promises". But wasn't Colossus from Aion Vision trailer?

Anyways, about leveling, if you don't do potion and some other crafting (weapon or armor) then it will be a lot harder to levelup solo. Personally I had little trouble getting to lvl 40 on Sorc then Templar.

About server being empty, check for other ones, check forums, but probably there aren't THAT many players playing Aion in general. I would only return to check Aion 2.6 with my free month from ExSteel, so not any time soon. :P

Cheers.

Actually, yes, colossus was in that trailer.  But there was yet another trailer.  (Link is Here.)   Sadly this is the trailer I saw first to get me to check out more into Aion.  This is yet another very LULZ trailer cause you see Elyos attacking the dredgion which hahahahaha, anyone that played the game knows you can't do and then shortly after that you see this huge colossus coming out of the ground.  Like scary huge compared to the vision trailer.  

I mean even though I played the game and know what it really entails, watching these trailers still give me goosebumps in a sense that if they had delivered just like these trailers suggested, I'd probably be a addict to this day on the game.

And that's another thing, that vision trailer was a huge upset in that it was just a trailer to tease you into holding out for nothing.  Cause if they actually tried to do what they showed in Visions, I probably would have also stayed on the game.  But it never even was partially realized.   The only thing they realized was the pets.   The housing, the ground mounts, etc. all that never saw light of day. 

(The colossus they showed never was even in any cutscene in the game either.)

Basically, NCSoft burned me into every trusting another trailer of theirs cause that's all it did was false advertise and leave empty promises.

Nods, Aion was a big letdown.  The zones and combat feel mechanical.  The toons are nice, the animations are nice, they just don't flow.  The UI doesn't help, being the typical functional yet dry UI common to Eastern games.

Flying limits, bad, no swimming, bad.  In other news SW:TOR also has no swimming so... guessing EA hasn't been paying attention to the fallout from FFXIV or Aion.

if you thought Aion was boring you're in for a very rude wake up call when you buy Rift. Aion is pretty boring but Rift plays like it was designed for a 5 year old kid. imagine WoW but easier & with worse pvp, that's Rift.

Originally posted by Dorko2k

if you thought Aion was boring you're in for a very rude wake up call when you buy Rift. Aion is pretty boring but Rift plays like it was designed for a 5 year old kid. imagine WoW but easier & with worse pvp, that's Rift.

I had fun in Aion when I was in China server.  They grouped a whole lot more than in the states.  They also PvP'd a whole lot more too and fought over bosses.

See in the states, there is some thing going around where if a group tags a boss first, it's theirs.  Or if they show up for it first, it's theirs.  In China, that wasn't the case.  The way Aion worked, if you did 51% of the dmg, the loot went to that group.  And you know, that was a very exciting part of the game.  We'd not only have the other faction fighting over something, you were fighting with your own faction on getting bosses down.  There was times we kited the boss away from a guild that was downing a boss to steal the kill.  And after it was done, we all laughed about it with each other and congradulated the other team. It was "competitive" gaming.  Here it's all little kids fighting and making stupid rules instead of playing by the games rules.  And if you don't follow those rules, they try to flame you or get you hated in the community.  It's just two total different worlds.

This game is far from a WoW clone like Rift is.  It had it's good points and they failed at westernizing the game.  Quite frankly, I wish they never tried to.  The game was better before the changes even though it lacked a bit in content. 

But Rift....  that's a different ball of wax.  I actually got bored of Rift quick.  Specially with the combat.  The zone battles were fun on PvP servers but that's about where it ended with me.  I couldn't get past the slow GCD and very cadenced feel.   Aion least had moves that were big on slightly longer CDs and weaker quicker moves on much lower CDs and had combination moves that in many cases did seem together well.  You could even mix and match the combos for different outcome.  Like for chanter instead of doing the last move of a chain1 combo (which was on a 10% chance to proc), I quickly would start the chain 2 combo after the first 2 moves of the first combo making a 7 move combo or so without proc'd moves.  There was a potential for this system if they had further developed it but instead seemed like they just gave up on the game mechanics and instead just decided to just make instances for the western audience.  And down down down it went.

I agree, I played on the China servers up to about lvl35ish & it was a great deal of fun & it was mostly due to the community. Aion wasn't all that boring imo until the higher levels & it took a day of grinding the same mob to get a level. The pvp wasn't that spectacular either. Being an assasin wasn't a whole lot of fun in the abyss when the animation required me to be right on top of my target to do an attack.

Originally posted by thamighty213

Originally posted by coxyroxy

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

Aion was really fun when it first launched. rifting was awesome and new, the lower level questing was fun, the flying was very cool, even the abyss was a blast.

 

then they implemented level 30 gold gear.......and it all went to hell.

nothing but twinks running arround ganking pretty much everyone even 10 levels higher then them.

gear disparity in this game it's just insane. skill has almost nothing to do with pvp in this game, it's pretty much all gear. those that grind the most get the best gear and completely own everyone else. this only gets worse at end level.

 I have seen less geared but better players beat better geared ppl in pvp.  If you dont like being killed in solo ( not you personally jakstripper) in games and belive you need to win every fight (i am reading the same stuff about rift) then no you wont like it. The better fun is in group pvp with good tactics. Now ofc if there is a group with full lvl 55 gold pvp gear and a group with full green noob, then its a different story, same in any pvp game. But if your gear is half decent and you play well, then your group can win,

DAOC wasn't until Atlantis and that is what many regard to be the greatest PVP game ever.  Gear should make a small difference and still be something to strive for but AION got this hopelessly wrong there is a very slim chance a group of casual players no matter how skilled can beat facerolling no lifes in there +10 50 AP gear and this will only get worse 2.5 when 55 eternal AP is introduced.

 

These are your options when you hit that point.

 

1. Grind for fenri's for what is months for a casual player and then pray to the RNG gods, to still be worse off than AP geared people.

2. Grind for months longer than fenri's would take to get your AP.

3. Grind Besh etc for months for the post fenri's PVE set that isnt as good as fenris oh and spend 20m ish in the process.

4. Craft a set of Balaur armour again months and months to get the mats again not as good as AP.

5. Give up on PVP altogether and be left with what is a very shallow PVE game where you will still get rifted on by those no lifes.

6. Quit and face it NCSoft screwed the pooch badly by putting so much requirement to gear in what is supposedly a PVP game.

 

 

I took option 6 I took another look during this reactivation week and didnt instantly log out as I would with other MMO's I still love aspects of it I then took 1 look at my pathetic 2k AP, 1 look at the AP costs of decent AP armour and then saw that I only had 7 of the 30 pandamonium tokens for the 3rd fenri's piece and still had the HOHM part to come.

 

Being ganked in the Abyss didnt bother me, being rifted on didnt bother me hell its that rush I bought the game for.

I'm all for working for better gear but with a family and perhaps 2 hours a night to play I simply cant be bothered with spending the next year of dullness just to compete in the one thing I originally bought the game for.

By my figures It would take me a month just to finish up stage 3 of fenri's with 1 lannok run a day gods of PUG permitting. Stage 4 could take me anywhere from 1-4 month depending on RNG and I honestly couldnt tell you what stage 5 involves I've long forgotten.   So 3-5 month on top of what was already a 7 month investment by a casual player just to be able to compete.

 

 

On another note I enjoyed the Aion journey so once I have finished DA2 and DIvinity 2 then I may well resub and start a Gladiator and take that through till you hit that wall.

 

 Can I ask at what level did you quit?

I also started from launch but quit 2-3 months later.

If im not wrong.. Fenrils and Lvl 50 gold AP sets were the most elite of course. To get them you have to really invest time, lots of grinding and RNG. Most of the top pvp-ers would go and grind in the abyss for fear of dying after reaching certain amounts of AP.

If you have only 2 hours a day, why not do dark poeta runs? at least you can get 2nd best items.. or if your lucky enough to get into a good guild, you may farm world bosses.

I quit cos when menotios's greatsword dropped, the guild leader gave it to his friend even though I had higher DKP. Still ok nevermind I went to sleep and next day I found out Zapiel's spear dropped and I wasnt there.....

Originally posted by johnbow

Originally posted by thamighty213

Originally posted by coxyroxy

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

Aion was really fun when it first launched. rifting was awesome and new, the lower level questing was fun, the flying was very cool, even the abyss was a blast.

 

then they implemented level 30 gold gear.......and it all went to hell.

nothing but twinks running arround ganking pretty much everyone even 10 levels higher then them.

gear disparity in this game it's just insane. skill has almost nothing to do with pvp in this game, it's pretty much all gear. those that grind the most get the best gear and completely own everyone else. this only gets worse at end level.

 I have seen less geared but better players beat better geared ppl in pvp.  If you dont like being killed in solo ( not you personally jakstripper) in games and belive you need to win every fight (i am reading the same stuff about rift) then no you wont like it. The better fun is in group pvp with good tactics. Now ofc if there is a group with full lvl 55 gold pvp gear and a group with full green noob, then its a different story, same in any pvp game. But if your gear is half decent and you play well, then your group can win,

DAOC wasn't until Atlantis and that is what many regard to be the greatest PVP game ever.  Gear should make a small difference and still be something to strive for but AION got this hopelessly wrong there is a very slim chance a group of casual players no matter how skilled can beat facerolling no lifes in there +10 50 AP gear and this will only get worse 2.5 when 55 eternal AP is introduced.

 

These are your options when you hit that point.

 

1. Grind for fenri's for what is months for a casual player and then pray to the RNG gods, to still be worse off than AP geared people.

2. Grind for months longer than fenri's would take to get your AP.

3. Grind Besh etc for months for the post fenri's PVE set that isnt as good as fenris oh and spend 20m ish in the process.

4. Craft a set of Balaur armour again months and months to get the mats again not as good as AP.

5. Give up on PVP altogether and be left with what is a very shallow PVE game where you will still get rifted on by those no lifes.

6. Quit and face it NCSoft screwed the pooch badly by putting so much requirement to gear in what is supposedly a PVP game.

 

 

I took option 6 I took another look during this reactivation week and didnt instantly log out as I would with other MMO's I still love aspects of it I then took 1 look at my pathetic 2k AP, 1 look at the AP costs of decent AP armour and then saw that I only had 7 of the 30 pandamonium tokens for the 3rd fenri's piece and still had the HOHM part to come.

 

Being ganked in the Abyss didnt bother me, being rifted on didnt bother me hell its that rush I bought the game for.

I'm all for working for better gear but with a family and perhaps 2 hours a night to play I simply cant be bothered with spending the next year of dullness just to compete in the one thing I originally bought the game for.

By my figures It would take me a month just to finish up stage 3 of fenri's with 1 lannok run a day gods of PUG permitting. Stage 4 could take me anywhere from 1-4 month depending on RNG and I honestly couldnt tell you what stage 5 involves I've long forgotten.   So 3-5 month on top of what was already a 7 month investment by a casual player just to be able to compete.

 

 

On another note I enjoyed the Aion journey so once I have finished DA2 and DIvinity 2 then I may well resub and start a Gladiator and take that through till you hit that wall.

 

 Can I ask at what level did you quit?

I also started from launch but quit 2-3 months later.

If im not wrong.. Fenrils and Lvl 50 gold AP sets were the most elite of course. To get them you have to really invest time, lots of grinding and RNG. Most of the top pvp-ers would go and grind in the abyss for fear of dying after reaching certain amounts of AP.

If you have only 2 hours a day, why not do dark poeta runs? at least you can get 2nd best items.. or if your lucky enough to get into a good guild, you may farm world bosses.

I quit cos when menotios's greatsword dropped, the guild leader gave it to his friend even though I had higher DKP. Still ok nevermind I went to sleep and next day I found out Zapiel's spear dropped and I wasnt there.....

I personally ran DP every day for about 6-7 months.  Even after 2.0, I went in with a friend sorc and we 2 manned the lake bosses. (I was a Chanter)  I STILL NEVER saw my full set fall from there.  Ever!  I got 4/5 Anuhart.  I found doing the Fenris quest line much easier, but yes, it pitted you in the Abyss where lots of times you'd get zerged by enemies or sometimes you just couldn't farm at all because they'd have a whole group out there farming the balaur.   You had to stay Rank 9 also.  But now, you can farm mobs in Beluslan at the bottom which was a little safer and easier to get the bloods you needed for the pants.  To me, that was the hardest part of the whole quest line because of the random proc you needed in crafting.

You just had to be super determined is about it.  It was boring as hell to farm those mobs but it was the easiest and best set in the game (PvE wise).  For some classes, the set was even good for PvP.   But the L40 PvP set was actually better for the average player.  Why?  It was the easiest to plus up.  You could get +10 on each piece rather easily and that is what counted on the gear.   A L40 +10 Set was way more powerful than a L50 +5 set.  The cost of plusing up a L50 was outrageous so only rich people or people that had a means (guild) to farm dungeons every day did that.  PvP gear was exceptionally good in PvE too. So 1 set usually was good enough to do both PvE and PvP but the PvP offered a greater advantage in combat than PvE (our PvE tank even in 55 dungeons only tanked in L40 pvp and did great), which is why in the progression of things, the L40 PvP set should be the first thing you worked on before trying Fenris.   Least that was how it was back when I played. 

Today however, it may be totally different.