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4/10/11 1:37:29 AM#21
Most of them from kid to adult who acts like this are anonymous(as it should be, but no reason to behave like a moron for example) in there little stinky rooms acting like douchbags jerks assholes, this is something not new 10 years ago i saw also idiots ingame. As long your not do same as they do as long you act with reason politeness be social and argue in a normal way as we all should then there is np. Millions these days surf internet and some act normal some act like idiots as in normal real life thats how world is you have to live with this im affraid. Ashamed for someone who behave like a idiot, moron or douchbag no not realy im not resopnsible for his or her behavior, there parents school education is not me. Just try find people who are like you, nice and friendly or play solo games problem solved:) |
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4/10/11 4:27:31 PM#22
Originally posted by FranBuniFF12 Unfortunately, I don't give the name "Gamer" to "most gamers."
The crowd you are talking about are the people who play one game for a very long time while skipping out on many titles and locking themselves in one medium. You too also have done the same thing. Talking about computer games and console games...
I am a gamer who plays in tournament leagues and divisions when the time comes. However I love all sorts of games...
~Computer Games in many Genres ~Console Games in many Genres ~Board Games ~Collectible Card Games (MTG and Pokemon) ~Sports and Sports Entertainment (yeah, they are games too, hard to believe right?) ~Naughty Games (Truth or dare anyone?) ~Non-Collectible Cards Games (Hearts, Rummy, Poker)
I mean there are MANY games out there......and I despise those who call themselves gamer because they play a SINGLE game for five years and refuse to play other games. It makes no real sense to me.
Before you come here and start ranting about gamers, perhaps you should define what a gamer is and wonder if its the gamers who argue or those who feel insecure about leaving the games they know best out of fear they will lose or get their ass kicked. I firmly believe the attitude exists in many MMOs because MMOs give the ability for an "earned" advantage against players. These players do not want to admit or realize that wins are actually unfair so it becomes a giant prick-waving contest on who has the larger prick...
In the end of the day, the true gamer is the one who can go from game to game, play well and have fun while the true champion is the one who can enter a championship with a title and come out retaining the title, and even survive cross platform.
The true and real champion also knows that retaining the title forever is an impossibility. Eventually one loses. What counts is how you handle yourself while in the hotseat and how you can defend the title once aquired. There is a humility involved in knowing you may well lose to your best friend or a friend who you mostly hang out with...there is humility involved in knowing a student of yours beats you for a title and then a smile knowing that he or she can defend the title well enough to be in good hands.
Gamers need to really open themselves up to many games out there and genres to really be considered to be gamers while those who boast about being good should join the leagues and test themselves. Of course those are choices. I know many who play single titles for five years and while I dont call them pure gamers, I respect them the same. That in itself takes some devotion to achieve. ----Primary System---- |
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4/10/11 4:29:43 PM#23
sounds mainstream. Ten people who speak make more noise than ten thousand who are silent. |
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4/10/11 4:40:11 PM#24
While I do agree that a certain extent of it is because we are gamers, I think the bigger picture is The Interwebs. There are some people who are jerks in person, I agree. But people can say they will "skull****" your mom on the internet without a worry. They can say things they wouldn't dream of doing. They can act hard and tough, but have trouble running a mile or lifting a box. But I think that it's just how the world is now a days. I said it a few times. People are less about each other and working together and fellowship, and more about the money and themselves. I'm not saying being rich is a bad thing, nor is having money. That's good. But just how people go about doing it. There are nice people out there, for sure. But it just feels as if there are less and less.
Blah, I could go on, but meh. |
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4/10/11 5:20:12 PM#25
This is a human issue, not a gaming issue. As someone pointed out the anonyimity of the "interwebz" (including online gaming) lets people satisfy whatever urges they want because there are no consequences. It is the human condition, uploaded to the internet anonymously. Please don't confuse it as a problem with "gamers." |
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Isturi
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Joined: 3/03/09
Come on Kiba daddy got a nice juicy steak for you... |
4/10/11 5:28:58 PM#26
OP nice thought but lets face it most gamers are arrogant fools who think that there particular toon poop don't stink. Most gamers feel that they are mini gods. Most gamers would rather play a OP toon then help anyone that is not or even remotely close to there lvl this is how ppl play there toons now. Sad but true. I say if you don't like it don't play. unfortunately it is not going to effect the game by one person leaving but if a bunch of ppl left for another game and thankfully this seems to be the trend for a certain number one MMO that I hope one days falls to number two. Anywho buy a console or play solo games idk dude not sure what to say bout this. Have a nice day
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Wolfy2449
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Joined: 3/22/10
My assumptions are never wrong, you are.Scientists have already proven my most of my assumptions |
4/10/11 5:31:21 PM#27
Someone said that the nature of the humans is chaotic, i fucking love the chaos online. It shows the true side of humans and it isnt like the horribly stupid real life, where everyone tries to act "good", have "manners", and never say what he wants to say or do what he wants to do. Plus i am not a stupid person like many people to get mad at obvious trolls that are having fun xD
Mmo communities Trolls=trololol Stupid people=I want to haz fun, u ruin it noob, u noobz we will lose teh match, rapequit Competitive players= i am so pro, headshot non-stupid people=i love trolls and laugh at stupid people. Ah waht a beautiful design dis game haz
I dont like music, but the sound of 6 mic spammers(using songs, strange sounds, shouting, talking) in a l4d2 match with all talk on makes me want to dance, all that chaos it was beautiful. Ah now that i remembered it, it was so awesome
Originally posted by Isturi Good job you just found out why games should have been banned xD, because they make pathetic fools feel better about themselves. And that was the intended design to make publishers rich. ppl just play there to win and feel better about their shity self, plus all humans care about themselves, even the biggest "sacrificing your life for others" style simply makes the person feel better about himself since he believes he did something big But really why should I help a random person, i am not hercules. I have my own goals and this person isnt inside them (Plus i never needed any help to do something, why does he??games arent nuclear physics) Woof! |
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4/10/11 5:38:12 PM#28
Games are fun as long as you have balance in your life. I realized that I was spending too much time playing them and now do more real life stuff (like volunteer work) which is much more gratifying. I think when one gets too absorbed in these games it can be unhealthy. We need real world interaction....that's the way we are wired. |
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4/10/11 5:39:59 PM#29
Originally posted by FranBuniFF12 This is a generational issue here with kids as a whole, not the gaming community. Developers just thought it would be far more wise to dub their games down so these non-video gamers would be able to play (leading to more money). The gaming community used to be small, and it still is. The kiddies calling themselves "gamers" are hilariously mistaken. These are nothing but normal (I use that term lightly) people trying to be cool by playing video games. So...nothing happened. We're still the same as before, it's just that now we have to deal with 12-year old, hip-hop-loving casual babies ruining our entire industry and enjoyment. Gaming is ultimately dead. All its heart and soul has been replaced with 'uber' graphics and 4-hour-long campaigns. I can only get my satisfaction through retro gaming (although there are some indie games like Minecraft that are getting the job done). |
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4/10/11 5:45:48 PM#30
Originally posted by Wolfy2449 Is it possible that you would have a better opionion about yourself than in reality? The instant I have read your post, I knew you were no more than 17-18.. checked, and surprise, you're 19. By your words, I suppose you're one of the "non-stupid", making fun of the "stupid", right? Oh man, you'll love life when it hits you :) |
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4/10/11 5:52:17 PM#31
Originally posted by Isturi I like your sig (The fifth element) and the avatar reminds me of Wolf's Rain when the song "Gravity" plays in the background. :)
As for your comment, depending on the community size and power/influence of the person can one person leaving affect an entire community. In one of the games I played there were three modding groups who liked to try to patch a game for fixing bugs. We were made fun of and attacked all the time even though we were the ones who were spending hours to write code to patch games and servers.
At the end we left the game in question and to this day they have not fixed anything they claimed they would, In fact anytime I log into a server in that game, they do an IP lookup, trace to a similar location and start asking me questions to return....all from people who care more about my programmning abilities than anything else out of desperation.
The same is true when one person leads giant guilds which affect entire server economies. That guild breaks up and the server changes for the better (or worse) depending on the MMO. People love those games due to the kind of power they can get and the same people who call you "friend" are the same who will snap at you when you wish to mod a game to balance everything unbiasedly because they stand to lose the bugs and exploits they use against each other to win.
Sort of reminds me when a certain unnamed company in the real world said "We are going to balance wages and benefits to give everyone an equal share to fight against discrimination" and the next day a coalition of blacks and women were suing the CEO of the said company for "Rights, benefits and priviledges" they would stand to lose...
Just goes to show people talk about diversity and getting along until money and advantages being lost come into question.
Of course anything more is beyond the scope of this thread. ----Primary System---- |
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Arcken
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Joined: 8/14/04
Lets face it, MMOs today are turning into single player console games with a chat box included. |
4/10/11 5:56:35 PM#32
My biggest gripe about todays gamers is that they act like chest beating jocks instead of the well read intellegent people we used to be seen as. I blame it on incorrect parenting and society saying things are too dangerous and un-PC. So now weve got a generation of young men expressing their testosterone in the virtual world instead of the real one. |
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Isturi
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Joined: 3/03/09
Come on Kiba daddy got a nice juicy steak for you... |
4/10/11 5:56:57 PM#33
Originally posted by Shinami agreed and ty.
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Miles-Prower
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Joined: 2/26/10
I'm a Brony and proud. Friendship, Love and acceptance. What's not to love? |
4/10/11 6:02:08 PM#34
What I read is a long-winded story about a person stuck in Nostalgia unable to let go of the past and embrace the way things are now. I, too, remember sneaking up in the middle of the night to play Bubble Bobble; or finally getting my own Gameboy; I remember the oo and awe of the Virtual Boy; and the first time I sat down to play the Atari. Those are good memories, but they aren't what defines gamers, just as aggressive, Dorito munching nerds, screaming into microphones and taunting their enemies into crying children aren't the definition of gamers today. Gamers come in all shapes and sizes, but one thing we have in common is our passion and love for good; quality games. It's not how we play the game, or how good we are at the game, or even which platform we like better. It's games and people.
~Miles "Tails" Prower out! Catch me if you can!    Come Join us at www.globalequestria.com - Meet other fans of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic! |
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4/10/11 6:23:05 PM#35
The OP is correct, sadly. And people wonder why I prefer soloing. To the OP, I can only suggest: don't give up hope. I like to believe that most people playing a large MMO are happily gaming away and it's only the bored or the rude that sit around in common areas and spew verbal diarrhea. Turn off general chat when you don't need it (I know this kinda sucks). Try to join a mature guild that doesn't put up with that crap, or form one yourself. You can find like-minded people out there. It'll take a little time, and you'll have to g-kick a few noncompliants, but it's doable. |
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4/10/11 6:39:36 PM#36
Originally posted by WraithHunter Thanks for saving me the typing. Like others have said, it's not a gamer thing. People want to feel good about themselves so many people latch onto something they can use to put down others when they can't succeed/excel in life on their own.
As to gamers, that's one reason I am looking forward to Brink even though I am not a huge fan of shooters. No leaderboards, no KDR tracking etc, more XP for teamwork/objectives than killing etc. Should have all the asshats screaming this game sucks!!!! :) |
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4/10/11 6:52:35 PM#37
OP, this supposed society at large you’d rather not let see you associating with games is the same group of people playing the game with you... You see the same behavior on the road to work and in every class room.
It isn’t a problem with “gamers.”
I guess just like in real life you have to pick and choose who you play or assiociate with.
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4/10/11 7:03:06 PM#38
As others have mentioned, this really isn't anything unique to "gamers," but a problem that exists in our entire (world wide) society. People are incredibly hateful. Go look up popular sports videos, say soccer, and then look at the comments to see all the vitriol being spewed out about what sport is better, what player is better, etc. Even incredibly miniscule things like "it's not soccer! It's FOOTBALL!" and "No! it's FUTBOL!" ignite some insanely hate-filled flame wars. A high school basketball game at my girlfriend's old high school in Maine required at least a dozen police escorts, and numerous people were arrested (this was few months back). And why? Because they were playing some rival high school and the year prior one of their students chose to move to this one and was now doing very well. So the rival school "enthusiasts" came in extremely large numbers with intent on crippling this player. And guess what? This was lead predominately by the PARENTS, NOT the student body. Perhaps game communities were better back when it wasn't as mainstream, I don't remember as I didn't take part in the communities back then. But now that the mainstream people are starting to join in, you're going to be seeing a lot more of this bile. There lots of people full of hate and anger, and they come in all shapes, sizes, colors and interests. That's the world we've always lived in. |
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Brenelael
 Elite Member
Joined: 10/19/06
Pointing out the Obvious to the Oblivious since 2006 |
4/10/11 7:05:43 PM#39
To the OP: Welcome to the Internet, enjoy your stay.
Bren while(horse==dead) |
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4/10/11 7:21:13 PM#40
Originally posted by Krelian This seems to imply that it is (some) humans' natural tendency to desire to "dish out hatred" all the time, but they only refrain from doing so out of fear of potential consequences. That's a scary notion to ponder. |
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