Originally posted by JohnCreed

Originally posted by hercules

can they retain them is the question.

Aion and AoC sold more then that.

WAR sold about same if not more.

You will know in a few days.

 

 It's an ok game but nothing revolutionary. I wouldn't call it a WOW-killer but it does look like it's going to be the only MMO that can compete with WOW for quite a while.

 I don't think you can even call it competing when they claim to have 8.3 % of what WoW claims.Hehe .Or heck they have sold the equivalent of  30-40%  in a month  of what one of WoW's Expacs  did in a weekend. Just pulling your chain btw.Surprised there arn't 100 post screaming WoW killer yet.I surely would call rift a success.I persenolly can't stomache any of todays MMORPG's.I have been revisiting old single player games lately.Did Morrowind a while back .Now replaying through Oblivion.Also messing with Final Fantasy 13  from time to time.I Think I very well may be just a little too old school to touch todays MMO's .Maybe I will Plunge into GW2 .Not sure yet. However I wish Rift Luck on its continuing success.

Originally posted by hercules

Originally posted by JohnCreed

Originally posted by hercules

can they retain them is the question.

Aion and AoC sold more then that.

WAR sold about same if not more.

You will know in a few days.

 

Wrong. Those three games did not sell more in the first month. Also, WAR and AoC were MASSIVE disspointments that didn't even remotely live up to what the fans were expecting, AOC barely worked at launch and had no content. Rift is one of the most polished MMO's at launch we've ever gotten and it has an impressive amount of content for a new MMO, with promised new content on a regular basis that so far Trion is living up to.

Where Rift fails is at being a next gen MMO, it's not. There's really nothing innovative about it. It basically stole features from what came before and added their own spin to it. It's an ok game but nothing revolutionary. I wouldn't call it a WOW-killer but it does look like it's going to be the only MMO that can compete with WOW for quite a while.

 wiki is your friend

"As of September 30, 2008, WAR had sold 1.2 million copies and had 800,000 registered ".Game launched on 18th so thats same numbers as rift in under 2 weeks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_Online:_Age_of_Reckoning

 

aion

"Aion was the biggest MMO release in recent years according to NCsoft, with 400,000 pre-orders in the US. The game generated 40.6 billion won ($32.7 million) in the fiscal quarter in South Korea, Taiwan, China, and Japan.^[24] In China, over 1 million players logged in within the first four days of release.^[25]"

^{was released seperately in asia then usa/europe.went on to sell over 1 million is euro/usa with 400,000 per orders in usa.}

^{So in the first week in china it already sold over 1 million}

Yeah, was gonna say AION was a big money maker for NC Soft, and still continues to be one in the eastern markets.. It also was pretty busy during launch as i remember, but after the first month it was a ghost town, the 2nd and 3rd month it reminded me of a dead f2p game lol.. Hopefully Rift can retain, because that is really what its all about.. With that said, i've already purchased 3 more months and this is comeing from someone who's paid month by month ever since i started MMO's, and that's a lot of months in EvE lol..

1 million sales are believable to me, I just think that number drops very fast because the game has little depth to it. I also think the Low setting on their servers is absurdly low, like under 500 players type low. Sometimes I look at server status and every single US server is on medium and that just seems very unlikely unless low is set really low and medium is a really large range.

How many subs/sales they have right now is cool. The main goal is retention, however. Age of Conan and Warhammer also had very high initial bases.

1.2 million is NOT more than the 1.3 number that was mentioned. So why are you quotting Wiki and proving that i was right?

Warhammer and AOC were both bashed mercilessly and failed to live up to expectations, there is absolutely no comparison between those two games and Rift. I'm not a huge fan of the themepark genre of MMO's but Rift is clearly heads and shoulders above most of the post-WOW mmo's that have been released and the general attitude among the player base is positive, unlike those other two games.

I specifically didn't mention anything about AION. AION is a unique case, it's an Asian grindfest.. whether it sold 1 copy or a billion copies is irrelevant because it's already successful elsewhere.

It's funny how just because you dislike a game you fanboys can't just state that you dislike it and explain why and instead try to bash and lie about how successful it is or isn't. A few weeks ago you were all claiming it barely sold 400k copies. It's been out for a month and it's still in the top 10 (#7 currently) in terms of sales at Steam. The game is successful among the themepark crowd and will be around for a while, get a freaking clue.

(Yes, I'm a notorious RIFT hater.) But I do want to see something make Blizzard think and if it's this game that forces a company with talent to use that talent. Woot.

• Their site (riftgame.com), the official forums (@ the same site) still doesn't say anything about 1 million subscribers.
• Google news for "rift 1 million" and similar things isn't pulling anything up.
• The IGN thing was released on 4/1. I mean really.
• I just can't believe they wouldn't make a lot of fanfare if this actually happened. The only downside to such a press release would be admitting that the previous "1 million accounts" release on 2/24 was creative wording (just like someone else still saying "12 MILLION PEOPLE <BLACK SCREEN> HAVE BEEN METER SPAMMED IN HEROICS" or something like that).

I believe IGN just mixed up the annoucement from Trion ages ago than told us they had 1 million registered accounts on the forums. A boat load of websites after that started saying Rift has 1 million subscribers.

If trion announced 1 million users for its forums, I think they would announce 1 million subscribers/boxes sold. (Which they haven't).

Originally posted by Jimmy562

I believe IGN just mixed up the annoucement from Trion ages ago than told us they had 1 million registered accounts on the forums. A boat load of websites after that started saying Rift has 1 million subscribers.

If trion announced 1 million users for its forums, I think they would announce 1 million subscribers/boxes sold. (Which they haven't).

It is announced that they had 1 million digital purchases and 300,000 box sales (:

Originally posted by JohnCreed

1.2 million is NOT more than the 1.3 number that was mentioned. So why are you quotting Wiki and proving that i was right?

 

Warhammer and AOC were both bashed mercilessly and failed to live up to expectations, there is absolutely no comparison between those two games and Rift. I'm not a huge fan of the themepark genre of MMO's but Rift is clearly heads and shoulders above most of the post-WOW mmo's that have been released and the general attitude among the player base is positive, unlike those other two games.

I specifically didn't mention anything about AION. AION is a unique case, it's an Asian grindfest.. whether it sold 1 copy or a billion copies is irrelevant because it's already successful elsewhere.

It's funny how just because you dislike a game you fanboys can't just state that you dislike it and explain why and instead try to bash and lie about how successful it is or isn't. A few weeks ago you were all claiming it barely sold 400k copies. It's been out for a month and it's still in the top 10 (#7 currently) in terms of sales at Steam. The game is successful among the themepark crowd and will be around for a while, get a freaking clue.

 Dude you are a sore loser.Do you honestly think if a game sold 1.2m copies in 12 days it will not sell another in 100k in 18 days.

Also even if WAR for some magical reason did not sell a single copy after 12 days it would still be 1.2m copies 100k  and as i said about same.

"Wrong. Those three games did not sell more in the first month" - er only 3 games were mentioned WAR,AoC and aion so guess you did mention aion since u said three games and those are 3 mentioned.

 "whether it sold 1 copy or a billion copies is irrelevant because it's already successful elsewhere." Really don't know what you mean by this success is success .Unless you think success in asia means nothing,which is weird then.

Secondly can you link where i mentioned rift sold 400k copies?also i play rift by the way.

Originally posted by Izork

Originally posted by Jimmy562

I believe IGN just mixed up the annoucement from Trion ages ago than told us they had 1 million registered accounts on the forums. A boat load of websites after that started saying Rift has 1 million subscribers.

If trion announced 1 million users for its forums, I think they would announce 1 million subscribers/boxes sold. (Which they haven't).

It is announced that they had 1 million digital purchases and 300,000 box sales (:

Any further word on this? I checked last night and still nothing on trion's site. And while the article went up 4/1, it's also still up. I can believe it, I just want another source. Google news isn't coming up with anything and google itself is talking about the old 1 million 'site member' news.

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One of the most bizarre articles I read all day 4/1 happened to be true but I was sure I was getting trolled. A man stayed in his chair for 2 years, and became attatched to the chair as his skin grew into the fabric. I'll keep the nasty out of this but he *never* moved from the chair in 2 years.

He did die, and that's sad and I am NOT mocking him, but I'm sure it'll turn out that he's an mmo gamer which will lead to some related proposed legislation.

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Originally posted by Deathofsage

Originally posted by Izork

Originally posted by Jimmy562

I believe IGN just mixed up the annoucement from Trion ages ago than told us they had 1 million registered accounts on the forums. A boat load of websites after that started saying Rift has 1 million subscribers.

If trion announced 1 million users for its forums, I think they would announce 1 million subscribers/boxes sold. (Which they haven't).

It is announced that they had 1 million digital purchases and 300,000 box sales (:

Any further word on this? I checked last night and still nothing on trion's site. And while the article went up 4/1, it's also still up. I can believe it, I just want another source. Google news isn't coming up with anything and google itself is talking about the old 1 million 'site member' news.

One of the most bizarre articles I read all day 4/1 happened to be true but I was sure I was getting trolled. A man stayed in his chair for 2 years, and became attatched to the chair as his skin grew into the fabric. I'll keep the nasty out of this but he *never* moved from the chair in 2 years.

He did die, and that's sad and I am NOT mocking him, but I'm sure it'll turn out that he's an mmo gamer which will lead to some related proposed legislation.

 

Wasn't it a april's fools joke on the official forum?

Yes that was an april fool post by a user, Trion have yet to announce how much they sold.

It was a pretty cool post that even had april fools in the post, i never saw this until someone else pointed it out

Ah, IGN needs to do a better job at spring cleaning =)

Originally posted by Deathofsage

One of the most bizarre articles I read all day 4/1 happened to be true but I was sure I was getting trolled. A man stayed in his chair for 2 years, and became attatched to the chair as his skin grew into the fabric. I'll keep the nasty out of this but he *never* moved from the chair in 2 years.

 You know what was truly unbelievable about that story but was also true, the guy actually had a girlfriend!  LOL

So there is no excuse for all you MMOers out there ;)

Hehe, how many copies did WoW sell?

More like one million people at best that have ever heard of rift.

I predicted 700K-1 Million copies sold at launch, then the subs will drop below 300K.

I still think it s going to happen.

This is probably the best themepark MMO released after WoW, but it is too linear and the leveling too fast (and for me too boring) to keep people subscribed for too long.

Anyway it will keep a decent numbers of subscriptions because thegame is solid.

Trion did a good job, Scott Hartsman is a good executive, not so much a game designer.

This is EQ2 on steroids, but it is still not good enough.

Originally posted by ste2000

I predicted 700K-1 Million copies sold at launch, then the subs will drop below 300K.

I still think it s going to happen.

 

Random forum guy = 1

Multi-million dollar company = 0

Originally posted by mmogawd

Originally posted by nimbuszero2

They need to merge servers or something quick. I don't get the impression that they have 1/4th of the subs they are claiming. My pvp battlegroup has been pairing me with the same people for weeks, and the server population on Tearfall is low. I can't speak for all of the other servers, but I've read the low pop complaint about at least a few servers on the forums.

nobody believes you.

http://www.riftgame.com/en/status/index.php

Anyone who claims the game has population issues couldn't be more wrong, every single server is Med or High and it isn't even PST peak yet. This has been the case right since headstart, every single day.

Blatantly false statements are easily proven wrong.