At the recent PAX East 2011, MMORPG.com played host to a developer panel featuring some of the industry’s best and brightest including Curt Schilling of 38 Studios, Craig Alexander of Turbine, Jeremy Gaffney of Carbine, Scott Hartsman of Trion, Brian Knox of En Masse, James Ohlen of BioWare, and Colin Johanson of ArenaNet. Find out what the discussion revealed in Lead Writer Bill Murphy's second report. Leave us a comment or two when you're finished.

You can read the first part of our exclusive PAX East panel here, but there was a whole lot more that our panelists covered than could be contained by one article and so let’s dive right into the thick of things with the next question asked of these industry leaders.

Read more of Bill Murphy's MMORPG.com PAX East Panel – Part II.

I agree, good read.

The gentleman who asked the question implied that it was about DCUO. Someone even cheered in the back of the room at some of the answers that condemmed SOE of its flawed launch. The answers here were great but I thought I would add a little light to the nature of the question.

You can find the audio at http://mmovoices.ning.com/profiles/blogs/mmovoices-65-03122011-the

so....SWTOR is aiming at WoW's audience. GW2 here I come.

Wow what a read.  Hmmm bioware going after wow space, what exactly does that mean.  Wow does not have space in that gme.  I guess he meant wow users,  or maybee he meant to have as many users as wow.

Other than that one question makes me think some of these devs have no clue and some of these dev seam to be very smart.

we always knew all this BS about swtor. i do disagree with many major things they mentioned. for example, it's not pvp that's used as a crutch. it's always pvp. there isnt a single MMO (maybe EVE) with well thought out and BALANCED pvp. WoW was always know for its atrocious pvp balancing and superior PVE. PVE has always been a distraction for disastrous pvp. pvp has always been an afterthought. so these fools have no idea what theyre talking about.

also, theyre putting all of their eggs in one basket catering to the "WoW crowd". WoW is on its way OUT...it is not the correct product to emulate =S

GW2 will be epic because ArenaNet is actually dedicating as much resources to the pvp (if not more) as they are to the pve.

btw, i think BW is in for a world of heartbreak. i swear these devs' heads are so high up in the clouds and up their asses that they've stopped paying attention to the actual trends in the MMO market. thats not to say that swtor wont be successful. it will. but it is in no way future-proof, and they will soon find out the hard way.

Originally posted by jerkbeast

so....SWTOR is aiming at WoW's audience. GW2 here I come.

 Agree 100%, if this is where TOR's direction is taking it, the game can forget getting my money, and I am a hardcore Star Wars fan (SWG CU almost made me hate Star Wars in general, I be damned if I let another fail ass, "Star WOW Galaxies" do that).

Curt Shilling says some very agreeable things. Great read.

Originally posted by sonoggi

we always knew all this BS about swtor. i do disagree with many major things they mentioned. for example, it's not pvp that's used as a crutch. it's always pvp. there isnt a single MMO (maybe EVE) with well thought out and BALANCED pvp. WoW was always know for its atrocious pvp balancing and superior PVE. PVE has always been a distraction for disastrous pvp. pvp has always been an afterthought. so these fools have no idea what theyre talking about.

also, theyre putting all of their eggs in one basket catering to the "WoW crowd". WoW is on its way OUT...it is not the correct product to emulate =S

GW2 will be epic because ArenaNet is actually dedicating as much resources to the pvp (if not more) as they are to the pve.

Guild Wars and EVE did it well I think. Even mobs in GW play like a simulation of a human PVP team . Unless you dont want to see GW as MMO, then just EVE I guess. Maybe more that I havent played, like DAoC, but I agree not many.

Originally posted by jerkbeast

so....SWTOR is aiming at WoW's audience. GW2 here I come.

 

Two problems with this, First off they originally said they are going to place not to beat.

People on these forums went after them for not wanting to beat WoW. Claiming that they aren't making a game to win, just a game to put out there. Thus saying the game will be bad because even the devs don't believe their game can beat wow.

Now that they say they are trying to, the above happens

It appears you can't have it both ways.

The second part to this problem is with your GW2 statment

If this drove you away from SWTOR, then you might want to stay away from GW2 as well. Seeing as they are trying to do the exact same thing, Beat WoW.  Guess that leaves you with Rift and Tera.

I like the part: “MMOs are a service..."

People who say that I would say gets it. MMOs are not just games that you ship and then reel in the money. It is a service, which you need to provide post launch, and if you dont then people will leave.

Originally posted by Yamota

I like the part: “MMOs are a service..."

People who say that I would say gets it. MMOs are not just games that you ship and then reel in the money. It is a service, which you need to provide post launch, and if you dont then people will leave.

This. Reviews should take this into account and therefore only be done 1 month or 2 after launch: MORPG's should be reviewed as the game they are but also as the service, with dev responsiveness, hack/bot/goldseller activity and actions taken against it and their effectiveness, and longterm prospects.

Originally posted by sonoggi

we always knew all this BS about swtor. i do disagree with many major things they mentioned. for example, it's not pvp that's used as a crutch. it's always pvp. there isnt a single MMO (maybe EVE) with well thought out and BALANCED pvp. WoW was always know for its atrocious pvp balancing and superior PVE. PVE has always been a distraction for disastrous pvp. pvp has always been an afterthought. so these fools have no idea what theyre talking about.

also, theyre putting all of their eggs in one basket catering to the "WoW crowd". WoW is on its way OUT...it is not the correct product to emulate =S

GW2 will be epic because ArenaNet is actually dedicating as much resources to the pvp (if not more) as they are to the pve.

 

Eve has balanced PvP?

Not sure what you mean with this but PvP in Eve is all about assymetric warfare, i.e. to outnumber or surprise your opponents.

But maybe you mean the different ships/weapons are balanced against each other? If so how would you tell in a game that is never about fair fights?

GW2 is where it's at!

Originally posted by wfSeg

Curt Shilling says some very agreeable things. Great read.

 

Curt Schilling is actually a very smart guy, not just agreeable.  He would do insane amounts of analysis on his pitching mechanic's and his opponents (when he wasn't gaming, I assume).  Stupid bloody sock.....

I think it's okay to compare new games to old ones, but not in terms of total content.  I think the decision and implementation of systems is far more important.

only thing im scared of is Bioware and Lucasart wanting to go an original indapendant path and make everything according to a new style and the game be a flop i want the game to be as original as ever but to also follow star wars realism and universe "SO PLEASE BIOWARE IM BEGGING YOU DON'T SCREW THIS UP PLZZZZZZZZZ"

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by sonoggi

we always knew all this BS about swtor. i do disagree with many major things they mentioned. for example, it's not pvp that's used as a crutch. it's always pvp. there isnt a single MMO (maybe EVE) with well thought out and BALANCED pvp. WoW was always know for its atrocious pvp balancing and superior PVE. PVE has always been a distraction for disastrous pvp. pvp has always been an afterthought. so these fools have no idea what theyre talking about.

also, theyre putting all of their eggs in one basket catering to the "WoW crowd". WoW is on its way OUT...it is not the correct product to emulate =S

GW2 will be epic because ArenaNet is actually dedicating as much resources to the pvp (if not more) as they are to the pve.

 

Eve has balanced PvP?

Not sure what you mean with this but PvP in Eve is all about assymetric warfare, i.e. to outnumber or surprise your opponents.

But maybe you mean the different ships/weapons are balanced against each other? If so how would you tell in a game that is never about fair fights?

 

 By balanced we mean everyone can do everything. There are no classes, no levels, no restrictions. Everyone has the same opportunity.