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It won best expansion. Now you can find out why we were so impressed with "Desert of Flames", the first expansion to EverQuest II due out in September of this year.
You can read our full preview if you click here! Dana Massey |
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Zeaus
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Joined: 4/05/03
When you have a shiny new hammer, every problem looks like a nail. |
5/27/05 12:20:25 PM#2
Sounds like they're trying to copy Guildwars with the capture the flag. ----------------------------- |
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Anofalye
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Joined: 11/19/03
The enemy is so dumb! They believe that WE are the enemy! - A famous orc commander. |
5/28/05 2:47:28 AM#3
The halfling in the demo MUST be Mennix!
Woe to such a powerfull halfling to do so lowly actions and use a poor duck! - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - René Levesque about the denial NO on the poll to his dream, project and goal. (Free translation) |
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5/28/05 9:01:58 AM#4
Capture the lost player customer sounds more like. Ok then what is the problem here , SOE has add on to eq I about 15 times now and this is the 3 or 4 annouced addon for EQ2 . In the Meantime , their competiors . World of Warcraft and now Guild Wars have added nothing for an additional cost (guild wars is free and will only make new revenune by adding on
 ). You get the feeling that SOE is like a very bad Dam maker and is now adding on to patch all the leaks in their products?
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5/28/05 11:36:01 AM#5
Cause we all know Guild Wars invented that  Whine, Whine, Whine...seriously.. I think the exp is cool. I am not to keen on the idea of being teleported to an arena and changing form but everything else sounds like fun.
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5/29/05 12:35:06 PM#6
Sounds like they have a winner. This should help retain what they have, and maybe bring in a few more. Lack of pvp was an issue. When they say "500,000 people have tried" the game, that makes me wonder.... how many are playing now? |
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5/29/05 7:11:22 PM#7
I played almost non-stop for 2-3 months. EQ2 was fun, but hardly different. Pretty graphics but it was all much the same as all the others. Playing WoW now and feeling that deja vu... it's all the same with minor differences. Expansions wont bring me back, I would have preferred a more well thought out game from the outset. The continuous stream of nerfs and vain attempts to balance gameplay just always made me feel I was paying to beta test. Yes it was fun, but they all are for awhile. |
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shae
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Joined: 5/06/05
"Don''t take life seriously because you can''t come out of it alive." - Warren Miller |
5/30/05 7:19:25 AM#8
I'm quite honeslty the last person to give SOE any credit at all, they burnt my monthly paying bidge long ago with SWG and the EQ2 launch but I will say that it looks like they may actually do something right with Desert of Flames. I highly stress "MAY" here because anyone who has delt with SOE before knows that they are the undissputed kings of falling short of promisses or plain out lying through their teeth to get people to stay. That being said, hopefully the expansion will bring some depth and fun to a stale, drawn out game, someting I feel EQ2 sorely needs to have any sort of future. Renewed optimism for EQ2 ? Absolutely not, if the past tells us anything it's that SOE will find some way to botch this up, but maybe... just maybe they can do something right, for once. |
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5/30/05 9:47:37 AM#9
The expansion looks and sounds really cool. I JUST canceled my EQII account too I just wish they had more details on the cliff-scaling, and that being transported to an arena. Who knows, maybe the expansion will win me back, but EQII was just kinda cruddy from the beginning. |
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chriswsm
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Joined: 3/07/04
Never make anything idiot proof as someone will make a better idiot. |
5/30/05 2:10:19 PM#10
Type /hide_illusion and you wont change form 
Played or Beta'd: UO / DAOC / Horizons / EQ2 / DDO / EVE / Archlord / PirateKingsOnline / Tabula Rasa / LOTRO / AOC / Champions / Darkfall / Mortal Online / DCUO / Rift / |
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5/31/05 7:32:59 AM#11
So does that mean Guildwars was trying to copy Age of kings/Conquerors? That series has had capture the flag for years. |
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SteamRanger
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Joined: 10/24/03
I don''t have to know how to make a better game, I only need to know where the "CANCEL" button is! |
5/31/05 1:33:43 PM#12
So, now you'll be able to climb walls. Nice, but I would have much rather seen them put in sitting animations so characters could actually use the chairs all over the place. As it is, it's stupid to see a burly barbarian kneeling with his hands in his lap like an Amish girl at a church picnic. And new encounters? More lions, tigers, and bears, oh my! Is this fantasy or the Discovery Channel? Maybe Sony needs to stop hiring from the EQ fanbase and get some new blood with fresh ideas and imagination. This is stale All in all, this latest money grab ranks a big "whoo-pee" "Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II |
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5/31/05 1:35:03 PM#13
oh yeah..and it doesnt matter that this expansion has been in development since BEFORE eq2's release back in november right? |
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They clearly all copied my elementry school playground. Dana Massey |
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5/31/05 4:24:14 PM#15
No, it sure doesn't matter that this expansion has been in development for awhile, since the team that develops expansions is a seperate team. You people sound like a bunch of whining babies. SOE is a leader in the field of MMORPGs and will continue to be so for a long time to come. You should avoid sentences that contain: We all know... blah blah....,, because no.. we don't all know. You may be the only one. You should avoid sentences that contain: SOE lied to us.. blah blah.. because no.. They didn't lie to me.. You may be the only one.. Oh and .. Guild Wars is still beta testing.. All games are free while they are beta testing. If game balancing bothers you then maybe an MMORPG is not your cup of tea, because you know what. ALL MMORPGS BALANCE. ====================== |
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6/01/05 8:04:28 AM#16
A few things here: First of all Capture the Flag has been in many many other games, GW just provided this and many other PvP gameplay elements to enhance their PvP system, and no other MMO has really done this. Since GW is free and taking a large chunk of players atm, Blizzard and SOE decided to put these elements in their game to help retain their customers with their PvP additions. I've played EQ2 since it's launch, and when it launched I was very glad that PvP wasn't a part of launch because I'm not a PvP fan in MMO's (like it in GW though, but it's a lot different). All of these games have built on the idea that DAoC had though with their RvR system (especially WoW). I haven't played WoW, but thier Alliance vs Horde setup sounds almost exactly like DAoC's Realm vs Realm system. GW's system is a little similar, but not enough to really say it's the same thing at all. GW's game system is so much different than any other game out their now, it almost breaks the genre for them. Second, all of these games copy each other, SOE is just the worst about it. They have taken so many elements from so many other games, and it's very obvious in EQ2. Mythic had a lot of innovative ideas in DAoC and I see a lot of their elements in WoW, and several SOE releases. For instance, the horses in DAoC were what led SOE to put the stables in EQOA, and WoW and EQ2 to have gryphons. SOE copied WoW's email system almost verbatim from what my guild said, and EQ2 has a lot of elements from a lot of other MMO's in it's system. The mob aggro system is so much like DAoC's it isn't funny. I could go on, but I won't because even though they copied a lot from other games, a lot of it is minor and most MMO's are doing the same thing so we can't point the finger at just SOE for it. I really don't fault any of them truthfully though, because at least they are (in most cases) are making welcome improvements to the game.
I'm by no means a flamer, and the last thing I want to do is start arguments in forums, because I hate flaming and spamming. I should say though that what you've said here is far from truth. You might want to go read about GW some more. GW is in full release now and has been for well over a month. GW is not beta testing and is never going to charge montly for it's service, all their income is going to come from software sales. GW is completely free of montly fees, it says so on the box, and they advertise it blatently in all the stores and most of the websites that sell it. I played GW's beta client back in November during their World Preview weekend, and their beta client was more stable than most MMO initial release versions I've played, and to that I give them credit. EQ2's laucnh was rough to say the least, they were riddled with problems, and I've heard lots of stories about WoW server stability. As a player of GW, I can say that they have one of, if not the most stable client out there now, the problems have been few, and the few that they've had they have very quickly and effciently fixed, and there has been no down time that I've know of yet in the game since it's launch. I still remember lots of downtime in EQ2, and that's really aggrevating, especially when you're paying $15/mo to play it. Now, as far as Desert of Flame goes, it's no where nearly enough to bring me back to the game. I held on and played EQ2 for a long time after my guild left in hopes to find another guild and friends to play with. My wife and I played practically by ourselves until we quit, and things can get hard when it's just two people and you can't get a group when you need it. I care nothing about PvP in EQ2, because that's not the reason I wanted to play EQ2. I know there's a lot of people that want it there, but I'm not so sure that it's going to be what SOE needs to get subscriptions back (or new ones that they need) because of all the other PvP out there now. WoW has taken a LOT of EQ2's customers and since they've added some nice PvP in their game now (even if it's not original), PvP in EQ2 isn't going to bring them back from WoW. PvP is the overall biggest change in this expansion, and everything (at least to me) just feels somewhat supplemental. The new city is nice, but what I (and many others I think) were hoping for is some revealed content from old EQ history. Like maybe finding remants of Kurnark or Velious (I didn't explore the highend game, but I don't think it's there). For faithful players, I'm sure their going to love the expansion, but just from an unbiased point of view, I don't think it's enough to help SOE in their fight right now. WoW has cleaned house with them, and now they have to compete with GW's revolutionary new game, it's hurting them. |
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6/01/05 5:06:50 PM#17
It will be very interesting to see how long GW can survive without charging a monthly fee. The band width alone costs a fortune. Developers do not work for free and are very very expensive. Software sales alone are not enough to pay salaries and all the other overhead involved. I haven't played the game so I suppose it could be running on a web server like diablo II, but then it is not an MMORPG, since it would not be able to support multi thousands of players simultaneously. For that to happen there has to be servers running the code. In any case it will be interesting to see how GW progresses with new content and bug fixes. ====================== |
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6/02/05 2:51:29 PM#18
I like the sound of the expansion. Im kind of leery of the pvp balancing though, but then again, when i want pvp, I dont play SOE games. I log onto WoW or Daoc or what ill be doing soon and thats playing EQ2 (fantasy fix) and Battlefield 2 (pvp fix). Best of both worlds for me. Having adventure/quest seek you out is intriguing as well. I imagine ill buy it. |
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6/04/05 8:50:50 AM#19
Huh?? PvP IMO is the biggist news for EQ2. Why no info on how its going to work? Bad interview/report by mmorpg.com. On another note to "dshadow07". SOE is NOT a "copy cat". There is only so much "new" ideas you can put into a mmo. Thats like saying BMW is copying Ford for using weels on there cars... |
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6/10/05 5:15:54 PM#20
I think a lot of you are underestemating the EQ line. i mean. basically all of us played EQ1 at some point, got hooked and loved it for a few years..but just like ANY game, it gets boring. i just quit WoW for the same resons...i outplayed myself. it takes a true mind to create a game that holds people for more then 5 years, and EQ1 did manage to do that. EQ2 in its launch, yes did blow. but hey, there trying to make it better, this new Expasion lookes like a awsome acomplishment on behalf of SoE. they added PVP wich was a huge problem, they added some depth and reality behind the game instead of just 2 citys and a lot of skeletons. EQ1 wasent very popular in its release either, after a year or so and an expansion or 2 it was the most popular thing out there. give EQ2 a shot and i think it very well could be on the top. WoW is loosing its touch since Blizz failed to release enough game content. and Guild Wars is a pure PVP game once you get to the end. yes it will remain fun and many many players will play because its FREE. EQ2 has Great potential as a game, and now there refining thoes aspects. |
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from this Day 1 player. 
