Bummer, but I'd much rather a solid launch than for example another AoC, Vanguard, heck even WoW's launch back in the day wasn't stellar...

Seems like BioWare games are always quality, and I assume that's what the hold up is.  Getting it to their standards.

As long as they launch as well as possible, and have a "complete" game then I don't care how long it takes.

ah Bo77ocks

I have my guild now I wanna play the bloody game.  I wanna give Bioware MONEY in exchange for thier product

Im gonna hold my breath until I can play

I've been signed up for this game since December 08 and just got into the beta this past week. Trust me. It's worth the wait.

Who cares? The fact of the matter is it WILL come out. It's not like they have set dates and constantly been pushing them back. Some of us have known about this game since 2005, a few more months isn't going to kill anyone. So in the meantime, keep your collective panties out of a knot and play some more World of Gaycraft. Salvation is near.

Lame.

Rather wait then get an unpolished game I dump in 2-3 months.

it wont make that date. It will be a 2012 thing my feeling is. How do I know you say? I don't but beta testers complaining in the beta forums that the game is only half finished is a good sign somewhere in 2012. not gonna link the url but leakerz are known to exist so google it.

Originally posted by biorealms

it wont make that date. It will be a 2012 thing my feeling is. How do I know you say? I don't but beta testers complaining in the beta forums that the game is only half finished is a good sign somewhere in 2012. not gonna link the url but leakerz are known to exist so google it.

I with Bio here.

I dont think that ToR is going to be here this year. maybe april-may next year. IMO i think that the game isnt ready just yet and they dont want to put out a dud product seeing as the last couple of major games have had a pretty smooth opening. Also there are other games coming out that will not want to compete with including ME3. so i just get the feeling thats its going to be next year

Originally posted by biorealms

it wont make that date. It will be a 2012 thing my feeling is. How do I know you say? I don't but beta testers complaining in the beta forums that the game is only half finished is a good sign somewhere in 2012. not gonna link the url but leakerz are known to exist so google it.

The picture that is used as 'evidence' turned out to be a fake and not an indication of the beta forums at all.

Argument was that the photoshopping was done sloppy and left a number of mistakes in the picture, and names of so called beta testers that were false. They were posters on the official forums, but they confirmed that they weren't part of the beta test program. Also, the same subject of 'game not being finished' as seen in the pic was posted by the same poster in the public SWTOR forum.

In short: the claim of beta testers saying that the game is only half finished is as true and genuine as the claim of a blogger that SWTOR had a budget of 300 million dollars.

Q2 or 3 in 2012 would be alright by me, as long as the game is being done well.  SWG was alright, I guess, typical of MMO releases and play at the time, and then SOE came and screwed the game up; so, my concern is that Bioware was saying something about going with SOE for Production and Distribution.  If this is true, then Bioware is shooting themselves in the foot, so it wouldn't matter when release is.  SOE turns everything they touch into gold: immobile.  So, if Bioware goes with ANYONE other than SOE, I don't care if the game doesn't come out until 2013, as long as it's right.

Originally posted by Tithenon

Q2 or 3 in 2012 would be alright by me, as long as the game is being done well.  SWG was alright, I guess, typical of MMO releases and play at the time, and then SOE came and screwed the game up; so, my concern is that Bioware was saying something about going with SOE for Production and Distribution.  If this is true, then Bioware is shooting themselves in the foot, so it wouldn't matter when release is.  SOE turns everything they touch into gold: immobile.  So, if Bioware goes with ANYONE other than SOE, I don't care if the game doesn't come out until 2013, as long as it's right.

Umm, I'm pretty sure that EA will publish and distribute TOR since they own Bioware and that's what they do...

edit:spelling

Originally posted by garry

Lets see - try to aim,move,twitch - sounds like the FPS arcade/pvp boys have been influencing the game design. I had hoped from the Dev comments that the attack animations will be varied instead of the single swing over and over. I prefer having an auto-attack OPTION for those of us who aren't arcade addicts/experts. Those of us who have slower hand-eye (yes and brain) make up a very large contingent of long lasting paying customers.  The space combat is already tunnel shooter arcade, a strong disappointment to some.

Not sure where you get the "try to aim, move, twitch" thing. SWTOR is not going to have any sort fo "FPS" control system. You need to go find some of the videos of the game being played on YouTube at PAX. There is also a walkthrough of the same mission they are playing from different class perspectives. None of those show any such "aim, move, twitch" thing as you discribe. In fact, the controls look traditional MMO style controls. Oh, you mean the so-called "space combat" part of the game. Yes, that is more arcadey then MMO.....that IS disappointing.

In regards to predictions on release....don't bet on July 1. I am thinking more like September to November with HOPE for September. I think the closer it get to Novemeber the less likey it will be to happen in 2011.

Originally posted by MMO.Maverick

Originally posted by biorealms

it wont make that date. It will be a 2012 thing my feeling is. How do I know you say? I don't but beta testers complaining in the beta forums that the game is only half finished is a good sign somewhere in 2012. not gonna link the url but leakerz are known to exist so google it.

The picture that is used as 'evidence' turned out to be a fake and not an indication of the beta forums at all.

Argument was that the photoshopping was done sloppy and left a number of mistakes in the picture, and names of so called beta testers that were false. They were posters on the official forums, but they confirmed that they weren't part of the beta test program. Also, the same subject of 'game not being finished' as seen in the pic was posted by the same poster in the public SWTOR forum.

 

In short: the claim of beta testers saying that the game is only half finished is as true and genuine as the claim of a blogger that SWTOR had a budget of 300 million dollars.

Without telling you how I know, I can assure everyone that the claim about beta testers complaining in the forums is complete and utter BS!

In addition, anyone that has tried the game at PAX, etc will tell you that SWTOR is in excellent shape. You will NOT be disappointed! If only more devs had the professionalism, dedication and attention to detail that Bioware does.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Read the announcement, it also said it is not in the first quarter either, so that means not before Oct 1.

My guess is they will aim for the October, November timeframe, but it could still slide until next year.

So much for all those posters predicting it would release earlier.

 

 It will release the same timeframe as G2. Right before X-Mas !

Just in time for all the kiddies to cry to mommy and daddy to go by them the new game...heck both of them.

Dog out ...

Originally posted by Jimmy562

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Read the announcement, it also said it is not in the first quarter either, so that means not before Oct 1.

My guess is they will aim for the October, November timeframe, but it could still slide until next year.

So much for all those posters predicting it would release earlier.

Well Mass Effect 3 is released around that time, why would they go head to head with their very own game?

Good point. Yet behind ME3 is EA.. so it may happend that way.

Wise move for BW is to release ME3 and then after 2-3month SWTOR.... but i think its not BW decision.

orginally posted by Ozmodan
 

Read the announcement, it also said it is not in the first quarter either, so that means not before Oct 1.

My guess is they will aim for the October, November timeframe, but it could still slide until next year.

So much for all those posters predicting it would release earlier.

 Not in the First Quarter?  The First Quarter is  Jan - Feb, March.  Oct is in the Last Quarter!

Originally posted by S00S00

orginally posted by Ozmodan
 

Read the announcement, it also said it is not in the first quarter either, so that means not before Oct 1.

My guess is they will aim for the October, November timeframe, but it could still slide until next year.

So much for all those posters predicting it would release earlier.

 Not in the First Quarter?  The First Quarter is  Jan - Feb, March.  Oct is in the Last Quarter!

No, EA's first quarter is 1 April to 30 June. October is in Q3. Like for a lot of companies.

Originally posted by S00S00

orginally posted by Ozmodan
 

Read the announcement, it also said it is not in the first quarter either, so that means not before Oct 1.

My guess is they will aim for the October, November timeframe, but it could still slide until next year.

So much for all those posters predicting it would release earlier.

 Not in the First Quarter?  The First Quarter is  Jan - Feb, March.  Oct is in the Last Quarter!

Its the fiscal, meaning financial, quarter, not calender quarter.  1st quarter is from April to June.  2nd is July to Sept.  3rd is Oct to Dec.  4th is Jan to Mar.  Most companies and the goverment (Canada and the US) use this.  Anyone with a basic knowledge of finances is aware of this.  You, obviously, are not.