Sorry for posting another thread so quick, but I am curious on the queues.  Is there a long wait to get to play?

Can be.  Just pick a server that is not full.  I didn't start playing until Friday night and there were still plenty of open servers with no queues.  I haven't sat in a queue once.

Thank you!

Originally posted by outfctrl

Sorry for posting another thread so quick, but I am curious on the queues.  Is there a long wait to get to play?

People complaining about queues are those that CHOSE to go on those servers despite knowing there would be queues, and are now complaining about them. There are pleanty of servers with high population that almost never go into queue, and there are about 3 that are medium population. I'm on a server that has a 400+ queue nightly (seastone) and I haven't complained once.

Originally posted by bleakeh

Originally posted by outfctrl

Sorry for posting another thread so quick, but I am curious on the queues.  Is there a long wait to get to play?

People complaining about queues are those that CHOSE to go on those servers despite knowing there would be queues, and are now complaining about them. There are pleanty of servers with high population that almost never go into queue, and there are about 3 that are medium population. I'm on a server that has a 400+ queue nightly (seastone) and I haven't complained once.

This is false.  This is incredibly false.  There are people that are already on their third server, having rerolled again and again.  There is definitely a queue issue.

People chose to roll on servers when the head start began.  BAM - they became FULL.  Trion added new servers.  People that did not want to deal with the FULL servers moved.  And then - BAM - they became FULL.

So now, during primetime, there are perhaps 4 NA servers that are not FULL.  They are at MEDIUM or HIGH.

The regular launch takes place tomorrow.  What is going to happen to those 4 servers?  Yeah, they are going to go FULL pretty fast.

The queues during primetime run anywhere from 1 to 5 hours or longer.  That is for anywhere from 200-400 or more.  Some queues are up to a thousand.

Trion has attempted to address issues that were causing the high queue times (people could sit on the character select screen without being disconnected or they could autorun and not be disconnected).  These allowed people to go to school, work, sleep, etc, etc, etc without having to wait in the queue again.  Those have been addressed, however you are still facing that 1-5 hour queue (though it was often 8-10 or more before).

The game's popularity has surpassed what Trion expected.  Heck, the game is already becoming plagued by Plat Sellers.

Add in the crashes and server restarts during the head start (cannot fault them here, would rather they did it during the head start than during the 30 days) - and you may find yourself sitting in queues more than you play.

If the game was not as fun as it is, I would have walked away not long after the head start began.  But the game is fun, so I am on my third server... just do not know if I have a fourth or even a fifth in me.

A good idea to get a good idea of what the shard status is would be to check out Trion's official Shard Status page:

http://www.riftgame.com/en/status/index.php

Take a look at it perhaps a few times during the times you would normally play to see what is going on with the servers...

...hope that helps, eh?

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Originally posted by bleakeh

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Originally posted by outfctrl
Sorry for posting another thread so quick, but I am curious on the queues.  Is there a long wait to get to play?

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People complaining about queues are those that CHOSE to go on those servers despite knowing there would be queues, and are now complaining about them. There are pleanty of servers with high population that almost never go into queue, and there are about 3 that are medium population. I'm on a server that has a 400+ queue nightly (seastone) and I haven't complained once.

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If people are on their 3rd server, they must keep rerolling on the original servers.

I picked Harrow, the first of the new servers after the initial one.  It is now full sometimes, but the que is not horrendous.  I like having some kind of que at the beginning anyway so I know my server will remain strong.

Longest wait time is 15-20 minutes.

I don't believe any servers besides the original 10 or whatever are having que times of anything close to 4 hours.

Those servers were full an hour after headstart began, so it should've been obvious they would be overcrowded.

I didn't get to try to log in for the first time until an hour after the headstart launch. It still only took me 30 minutes to get into a server. Snarebrush, is where I'm at. Haven't had to wait in a queue since the second hour of headstart launch.

So far the worst was opening night, being a several hour queue...but since I've had on average 20-35 min ones during heavy playtimes (on Keenblade).  Some servers are still a few hours long...which is to be expected with servers which large fan sites have chosen, etc...

Overall the server stability and their downtime / response is quite good, far better than my previous launch experiences.  Kudos to Trion on a much cleaner release than expected.

Originally posted by Yauchy

So far the worst was opening night, being a several hour queue...but since I've had on average 20-35 min ones during heavy playtimes (on Keenblade).  Some servers are still a few hours long...which is to be expected with servers which large fan sites have chosen, etc...

Overall the server stability and their downtime / response is quite good, far better than my previous launch experiences.  Kudos to Trion on a much cleaner release than expected.

The part in green definitely deserves attention (although it is a head start and not the launch yet).  Through the beta events and this head start, Trion has done a superb job.  I am glad that they are addressing additional issues during the head start rather than waiting weeks after release.

Originally posted by bleakeh

Originally posted by VirusDancer

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When did I ever say there aren't queues? I guess you answered whether or not you are on drugs with that. Lets look at some of my statements!

-I have NEVER seen more than 1/3 of the servers beeing full.

There are 39 servers.  You are saying that you have never seen more than 13 as FULL.  During primetime, there are generally only 4 that are not FULL.

-if you NEVER want to see a queue go on one of the 6 medium/low servers (the brand new ones that still don't go to high, I know that Perspice for example never goes over medium) and play there.

So if only 6 of the 39 servers are not FULL, how is that a third?  You contradict yourself...

Note that I am on one of the most overpopulated servers in the game, and I'm fine with the queues because they are NOTHING compared to those of some other games. Most likely there will be more servers released tommorow due to the actual release, we might actually see around 90 servers by the end of the week. 

Anyway go check out Perspice tonight, I'm betting it doesn't go past medium just like it hasn't for the past 2 days. Who knows perhaps it will even go high tommorow with the release, but I highly doubt that it will be full, especially with new servers coming in. 

I'm already on my third server (technically fourth, but I do not count the first since I only managed to get names on there - never actually played) - do not need a suggestion for a fourth server... thanks though.

Rather than to continue mindless games in a thread that is obviously going to end up being locked, I would like to reiterate this:

Check out the official shard status page during the time you are most likely to play:

http://www.riftgame.com/en/status/index.php

Keep in mind it will be busier on the weekends.  You may wish to wait (or not) a few days or weeks to allow server queues to settle if is going to be a problem for you and adversely affect what you think of the game.

Personally, I am having a blast with the game and I cannot remember the last time I had this much fun in a game...

Curious how these threads about Rift have exactly the same kinds of discussion as WAR had in their (un)official forums.

The problem is that there seem to be a big  number of servers opened to counter the flood.

The same 1500 people per server limits were exactly the same for WAR.

WAR had to open 113 servers to accomodate the (later confirmed) 800K players. A mere 7K subscriptions per server...

Rift is already through half that number with queues still in.

Both games use the same engine. No coincidence.

The problem with such low pops per server is that at launch they fill up incredibly fast but ... the moment these pops drop they drop all over the total number of servers. hence going very quickly from low to full and vice versa.

In fact this low number of people per server count contributed to the fast regression of WAR after 1-2 months.

WAR made another error: dividing these pops even further with 4 different Tiers and having no cross server BG's. Rift  makers didn't fall into this trap, hence a small world and cross server BG's to counter the handicap.

We'll watch these servers in the following 6 - 8 weeks and everyone will conclude: but my guess is it certainly is the end of single server based realms.

The 1.5k server pop is incredibly wrong and was confirmed by Trion. HP Razer servers can hold
far more.

At the moment they are trying to spread the population out. Briarcliff was 2,000 on the first
day and now sits around 500. Today there have no been any queue times at all because people
are finally settling down and restarts have been kicking AFk'rs offline.

Briarcliff will always be full = unofficial pvp server(self proclaimed) and unofficial oceanic
server(self proclaimed)

That was the player bases fault and smart people avoided that server.

Originally posted by pragues

Curious how these threads about Rift have exactly the same kinds of discussion as WAR had in their (un)official forums.

The problem is that there seem to be a big  number of servers opened to counter the flood.

The same 1500 people per server limits were exactly the same for WAR.

 

WAR had to open 113 servers to accomodate the (later confirmed) 800K players. A mere 7K subscriptions per server...

Rift is already through half that number with queues still in.

Both games use the same engine. No coincidence.

 

The problem with such low pops per server is that at launch they fill up incredibly fast but ... the moment these pops drop they drop all over the total number of servers. hence going very quickly from low to full and vice versa.

In fact this low number of people per server count contributed to the fast regression of WAR after 1-2 months.

WAR made another error: dividing these pops even further with 4 different Tiers and having no cross server BG's. Rift  makers didn't fall into this trap, hence a small world and cross server BG's to counter the handicap.

 

We'll watch these servers in the following 6 - 8 weeks and everyone will conclude: but my guess is it certainly is the end of single server based realms.

Another troll, if you bothered to read the previous discussion the 1500 server limit applied only to beta servers. As for engine yes it also uses Gamebyro, but it can be customized by the devoloper. Unlike WAR it ran pretty smoothly without any hiccups when there are large of number players.

As for WAR the reason they opened so many servers was because they paniced and listened to whining in forums such as WHA and IGN. They believed that when the game was out of headstart the population will double, they failed to realize that most of players who wanted to play the game already were in heady start. This is what mark jacobs said in the interview.

Originally posted by RiftFan

The 1.5k server pop is incredibly wrong and was confirmed by Trion. HP Razer servers can hold
far more.

At the moment they are trying to spread the population out. Briarcliff was 2,000 on the first
day and now sits around 500. Today there have no been any queue times at all because people
are finally settling down and restarts have been kicking AFk'rs offline.

Briarcliff will always be full = unofficial pvp server(self proclaimed) and unofficial oceanic
server(self proclaimed)

That was the player bases fault and smart people avoided that server.

Smile

The exact same discussions were held by the WAR fans at launch. Everyone was talking about numbers out of their asses. The fact remains that the lead designer of Rift in Dec himself stated 1.5 K per server TARGET.

As to WAR (same engine btw) : many discussions later the same WAR numbers were confirmed by simply comparing the actual number of servers in their first month and their maxed number of subs: 800K for 113 servers. Clearly showing a limited number of 7K subs per server.

WAR had queuing of HOURS in the first 5 days and hence they had to open servers @ 1500/server. The exact same thing happens now.

The fact you see servers going very fast from low - med to full and vice versa every night ...shows the same problem occuring with Rift.

See for your self.

That's why I always  said  thatsingle realm based servers are a dying breed because these pops are simply uncontrollable at launch and later on when people leave.

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Last day of Headstart and the queue's have pretty much gone away (depending on which ot the 30 servers you roll on).

BUT: If Trion doesn't add more dervers by tommorrow (Launch Day) It is gonna be a nightmare.

Not since World of Warcraft release have I seen such a positive launch of a new MMO.

Been playing in Beta's and now head start and I can't wait to get my friends here from WoW and figure out what server we are gonna play on for real. Got to be a PvP server and the challenge is gonna be to get my old  and real life friends from WoW (PvE) players to all roll on a PvP server in RIFT. PvP in RIFT is gonna be like a whole new kind I am thinkin. This game has amazing potential if Trion doesn't screw the pooch!

Blizzard better be afraid.

This could actually turn out to be the fated WoW killer after all. Who the hell knows.?

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Please excuse the typos.

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Originally posted by Darkheart00

As for WAR the reason they opened so many servers was because they paniced and listened to whining in forums such as WHA and IGN. They believed that when the game was out of headstart the population will double, they failed to realize that most of players who wanted to play the game already were in heady start. This is what mark jacobs said in the interview.

I think this is the primary reason we saw so few servers on release date. Everyone thought it
was extremely odd that they consolidated so much from Beta 7, especially on the Euro servers.

My theory is the number of Gamestop 5$ headstart keys was far greater then what was actually
reported to Trion. They obviously have some strategy in place to avoid what has happened to
so many new release MMO's.

  It is unfortunate that on some servers the queue lines can become quite large, however this is to be expected.  A major up-coming AAA MMO title that has had an open Beta for the past few weeks is going to have quite a massive population for the first month or so.  It can be extremely frustrating however there are only so many different things Trion can do to help this problem without seriously placing the future of the game in jeopardy.