The article describes things pretty much as they were in beta for me. I deleted the beta version of the game after only a couple of days, as it seemed obvious even then that there was no way the game would be fixed by launch.

Shame, as the concept  was good.

great impression, i enjoyed it as much as the first impression if not more! i agree with other people who type that they are interested in the this game on paper but that in reality it is not what it could be in theory. if the game makes it to 1 year then that is when i will give it a try and ONLY then as a free trial :D you wouldn't believe how many free trials of eve i've played and while i somewhat enjoyed them i never got the full product cause i'm too casual of a gamer to devote time to something as crazy hardcore as eve or as crazy unpolished as ER. :)

Mmorpg.com redeeming themselves after the horrible first impression. Nice.

Can people stop saying things like "How many other games have had major performance issues on launch? The answer is too many to count." (this by the way was a defending argument for the game)  For people to state it is the norm so it is ok could possibly be the dumbest argument I've heard.  Yes it is true loads of mmos have issues on release AND it is true that the mmo community is to blame because we continue to pre-purchase these games, but none of that makes it right.  I didn't buy ER because of its issues and don't care if it gets better in the future at this point.  If you are going to put out a piece of crap product, what makes me think everything from this point forward isn't going to be crappy too?  I also keep hearing how good it looks after the tutorial.  I for one appreciate if a game looks good, but prefer content and stability over eye candy.  I use to get the feeling that mmo developers created a world that they would like to play in, now developers seem to be creating worlds just for profit with no real interest in the game they are creating.  They don't care about content or how the game itself plays which is why I feel so many mmos are failing.  Now for those elitist jerks that feel because they prefer more complex mmos they have a right to be aholes to players who ask questions (regardless of the tutorial information that can be read ingame) give it a rest.  If you are jerks ingame, you are jerks in your real lifes.  Is it so hard to simply tell someone the damn answer and politely suggest they use the ingame material for future questions?  Do you think your game time is sooooo important that basic courtesy can be ignored.  If so, you weren't raised right.

So after that very long rant, I completely agree with this article.  I certainly appreciate everyone sharing their opinions on this forum and I like to think I respect differing opinions when I hear them.  Unfortunately, I really don't see how anyone can give anything but bad feedback on this game.  To blindly follow a game with so many issues baffles me.  For those of you who are playing, I wish the game well so that your loyalty is rewarded.  For those of you on the fence, don't waste your money.

agree, give it two -three months

So after that very long rant, I completely agree with this article.  I certainly appreciate everyone sharing their opinions on this forum and I like to think I respect differing opinions when I hear them.  Unfortunately, I really don't see how anyone can give anything but bad feedback on this game.  To blindly follow a game with so many issues baffles me.  For those of you who are playing, I wish the game well so that your loyalty is rewarded.  For those of you on the fence, don't waste your money.

You didn't buy ER and you still give some opinion on the product, that is a really informed opinion, LOL.

I genuinely hope that Masthead can improve this game more quickly than Aventurine or StarVault have done with their titles, but I wonder why it would be so.

They would have no more subs than the other two titles and hence they could afford to pay no more developers, so why will it improve more quickly.

Maybe Tera will be the game for those that dont want a WoW clone, and want something that is released in a reasonable state.

I think the customers have decided that the era of supporting indy devs during paid betas is pretty much over.

Originally posted by seabeast

"Oh and about the pricing - Why the reviewer did not mention the fact that the Earthtise team gave 1 free month of play, which basically makes the price of the game $35 or 35 EUR? Where else have we seen such a quick reaction by any MMO developer."

 

Weell, FF gave 2 free months after releasing a game that was not ready...by their account. The price does not drop, onlly more time to play a below par game while they fix the things they should have fixed prior to relase...Just a thought.

Well I didn't play that one. Anyway, the preview is not objective, it says what the mmorpg.com community wants to hear and I don't blame the reviewer.

Originally posted by causs

Do second opinions like this on every MMO(RPG) (may it be positive or negative) and you'll be the n1 gamesite in no time.

 

Agreed - this is a feature I always respected in GameInformer

Originally posted by vktra79

Originally posted by seabeast

"Oh and about the pricing - Why the reviewer did not mention the fact that the Earthtise team gave 1 free month of play, which basically makes the price of the game $35 or 35 EUR? Where else have we seen such a quick reaction by any MMO developer."

 

Weell, FF gave 2 free months after releasing a game that was not ready...by their account. The price does not drop, onlly more time to play a below par game while they fix the things they should have fixed prior to relase...Just a thought.

 

Well I didn't play that one. Anyway, the preview is not objective, it says what the mmorpg.com community wants to hear and I don't blame the reviewer.

 

 I did not play it ether, just addressing what you said about the free time and a quick reaction to a sub par game release.  I would think that the MMORPG.com community would want to hear/know about a game in its present state, if they wanted to know anything else they could have listened to the excessive hype, purchused the game and learned about problems then. I do beleive that the reviewer was objective mentioning numerous positives and if your into pretty grafics things would seem lala. However, for me, you can have pretty but if the  game lags and things do not work as advertized then I will wait and save my money.

First off, the following isn't meant to be in any way a stab at people. I 'm just utterly bam-fucking-boozled that people are still getting caught out by the 'current day MMO' - which is in all honesty a travesty. 90% ( I love pulling baseless statistics out of my head) of the new generation of MMOs are unfinished borefests.

From a guy who used to be all about MMOs (and I mean all about them; eat sleep and you know - mmos) the last few years I've completely removed them from my mind as the last straw (Aion) just convinced me the genre had stagnated and I wasn't having it. Even with the likes of Rift and KOTRO coming I feel little or no inclination to return.

That being said I hope those of you who are still with the genre are enjoying yourselves, regardless of events like Earthrise's launch being more common place than necessary. From a financial perspective I wonder what (lets say) the last 5 MMOs have accomplished?

"The fact is, if you are interested in a game such as Earthrise, you have come from a background of hard laborious grind and it's something you enjoy. Earthrise isn't bad for doing this, just catering to a certain audience."

Check and double check your "facts" here, I'm interested in this thing solely because of setting, artstyle and possible features.

My background is also filled with "hard laborious grind" stuff and I've come to the same conclusion in every one of those games: it's pure utter shit that this is in.

However, I appreciate that the rest of the review is pretty honest, though I think reviewers on this site should just give flat hard scores for each part of the game and calculate an average in the end.

Going to wait with Earthrise, until some free trial business comes out.

Originally posted by Speedhaak

 From a financial perspective I wonder what (lets say) the last 5 MMOs have accomplished?

Why?  Are you a stockholder?  The only thing you really need to worry about is if you have fun playing.

Originally posted by vktra79

Originally posted by seabeast

"Oh and about the pricing - Why the reviewer did not mention the fact that the Earthtise team gave 1 free month of play, which basically makes the price of the game $35 or 35 EUR? Where else have we seen such a quick reaction by any MMO developer."

 

Weell, FF gave 2 free months after releasing a game that was not ready...by their account. The price does not drop, onlly more time to play a below par game while they fix the things they should have fixed prior to relase...Just a thought.

 

Well I didn't play that one. Anyway, the preview is not objective, it says what the mmorpg.com community wants to hear and I don't blame the reviewer.

Agreed!

& I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who had this feeling after finishing the first paragraph.
 

Honnestly, after reading the first "first impression", I wanted to see something crushing the game to warn potential players. However although this second "first impression' do crush ER, it's not really convincing. The problem isn't coming from the arguments used, but the fact that they were used to make the community happy. I agree with the conclusion of the article, not with the reasoning.

Imo, it didn't ask the good question. The review reported the problems, but failed to tacke them.  Why ER is is danger?  Because its server lags and because it  was poorly coded; or, because history showed that it is nearly impossible to make major change in a mmo which is on the market? (SWG NGE... )

Most mmos released in such a state have disappeared after a year.

Well, again, the conclusions of the article are good.  Equally I don't think that an objective review of EarthRise should mention the skill or craft systems.. In its current state, the game won't allow the majority of the players to access them. I bought the game for the ideas offered by Masthead concept. But, as I wasn't able to see by myself whether they are in the game or not (performance makes the game unplayable for me), and as I'm apparently not the only one, it is totally irrelevant to discuss whether the game has a good housing system or not.

Just a remindr that Eve had lag issues within first year too until they used theit money for a large server upgrade and redid their structure. Hopefully Earthrise does something similar.

Great preview. You hit it right on the head .. As for a review ill take this preview in its place. No need to pussy foot around the truth it is what it is. More gbaming sites need to justy be blunt and frank with its readers. LOOK OUT FOR US.

Too many times i read " its an indie dev team" That doesnt pass the smell test.. i see indie developers putting out some pretty sweet titles. Then there are developers that go past thier means and thier capabilities. Lets not make excuses for these teams. Im sick of seeing fellow gamers fall into the later category. Hay news flash, these dev  teams that put out shit games, dont give a shit about you plain and simple. They only care about ther fat $ in thier eyes thats blinding them.

Remember gamers a turd is a turd. Sure the guy that laid it may be a novice and may not be sitting on a Golden throne, but in the end wtf does it matter its still a turd. Nothing you can say will change that fact. I feel this way about it, if you enjoy getting shit on your hands cause you decided to pick it up and play it well its on you not me.  I will be laughing at you.

They released it hoping they would get enough suckers to pay $50euros. One thing a small studio should never do is release a product that limits it's player base so severely.  Forced pvp isn't going to get ER the subs it needs to sustain the operation of the game servers even if you eliminate the heinous technical issues. ER will either be offline or f2p within a year.

This game is dead on arrival.

Vanguard was a great game.  Gorgeous graphics.  Good game play imo.  Huge world.  Tons of content.

It basically crashed and burned because of a shitty launch which is an utter shame.  I would play the game now if it wasn't for the fact that it still has a tiiiiiiny population just barely keeping it a float last I heard.  While I like to solo, I don't want to play in a barren world in an mmo.

I give ER no chance in hell and I haven't even played it and I already know it's not gonna make it.  5k players.?  That's embarrassing.

The one thing I have learned from playing MMO's for years.. unless you absolutely are comfortable paying for what is presented in the beta, don't buy it at release. Let others work the issues out then buy. I was interested in ER but I decided to not let my enthusiasm take over and instead wait. I'll keep waiting until they fix stuff then maybe I'll buy.