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General Discussion  » It finally happened....The WOW Killer. RIFT!!!!

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2/05/11 12:16:19 PM#21

Dreaming for a big budget sandbox game.... one day....

Future: WoD, SWTOR, Arche Age, Tera (maybe), GW2.
Present: None.
Past: Eve, RIFT, UO, bunch of F2P crap.


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2/05/11 12:16:21 PM#22

omg....not another post for a game so call "wow killer"....jeeeezz


hey i am fan of rift also and play in betas and i will play the game whean it come but seriusly......take some pill and chill out...


Same thing were told about Conan,same for Warhammer and same thing will tell for another 100 games that they will come...and mark my words same things will tell about Warhammer 40k.....


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2/05/11 12:16:28 PM#23

Rift will never break 1 million subs.


It probably won't even match Age of Conan's launch success of 700kish. 


Probably around 500k the first month to fall to around 200 after 30 days and then slowly decline after that.


There is no wow killer game.  Not even SWTOR will hit wow numbers.  Even blizzards next mmo won't hit wow numbers.  WoW was a fluke that happened at the right time.  Now everyone is tired of the wow model, which rift follows to a T.  10 mins of play into rift and i was allready thinking "oh christ it's just wow reskinned".  Just not enough content in Rift to keep people long and many of them have attachments to their wow char or guild and will end up back in wow doing the same stupid crap for the next year while they wait for another expansion.


Honestly i dunno what i hate more, wow, or game fanboys that post clueless crap.  I almost wish that a posters age was required when posting just so i'd know that a grown adult wasn't dumb enough to make these kinds of posts and that it's some 12 year old fanboy with no clue.


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2/05/11 12:16:38 PM#24
Originally posted by Slampig
Originally posted by Daredent

If a game is like WOW.   I want nothing to do with it. 

Its the worst MMORPG model ever made. 

It has ruined a genre of gaming.

Game DEVs now want to clone WOW not because its good ... its because its DUMBED-DOWN for the masses to play.

This way they can collect a sub fee for MILLIONS.

The WORST part is you WOWclones are FUELING this by comparing everything to that damn DUMBED-DOWN game.

Thanks for helping to ruin my favorite genre of gaming.


I don't get it...why do these companies make games? Why do ANY companies make ANY product?


Oh yeah...





THIS!   Yes they make games to make money.  YOU should get your head out of your a-- and realize that WOW is a horrid game and actually DEMAND more from your subscription fees.   YOU sir are part of the problem.    Not the solution ;)




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2/05/11 12:18:01 PM#25

I giggle at the sight of this thread being among many threads in the Rift forum named "I'm Bored" and decent game, but repetitive.

Sent me an email if you want me to mail you some pizza rolls.


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2/05/11 12:18:27 PM#26

the WoW-killer might not live to see the leaves change.


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2/05/11 12:19:24 PM#27

Rift is the game that made me hate MMO genre. How about that ?


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2/05/11 12:21:31 PM#28

Rift won't scratch WoW, but i'll play it!


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2/05/11 12:21:51 PM#29
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Pauleh

Well when it happens let me know.

 Me, too!


There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein


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2/05/11 12:22:26 PM#30

Oh dear, the wow-killer curse strikes again ...

*quickly sells his Trion shares*


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2/05/11 12:22:35 PM#31
Originally posted by Drakynn

Well that's Rift doomed's a well known fact when your game is dubbed a WoW Killer by anyone it is then cursed.

Unfortunately, every AAA MMO title coming out this year is considered a WoW-killer.


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2/05/11 12:22:49 PM#32

These posts are always so amusing. So full of unchecked lofty idealism, you just wish you could be there when they stop the freefall and hit the pavement.


Not saying Rift is bad, got a pre-order myself, but its still derivative at a point. If the class system and Rift events weren't actually that fun, I wouldn't even consider the game.

Rift gameplay is standardized, but so is basically every codified genre's games, so no foul here.

Rift graphics are much more system intensive and is no where as optimized for broad-spectrum users as WoW.

Rift UI is good. Clean layout, good ammount of built in info and arrangement options.

Rift Lore is kinda a joke, being from Generic-Sci-Fantasy-Universe-12 and all. And a lot of the voice over is craptastic.


If you want to see things not to like from the outside, there's plenty, so don't worry, haters can hate all day long.


But the class/Rift mechanics are that cool for me. Sure, the presentation of the class system is standard, its effects/depth is definitely something fresh to use with the classic class-structured game.

Having a means of supported group PvE to complete from roughly lvl 6 to lvl cap is nice. I can just log in, find the nearest public group, and I'm set for a while, earning comparable items to whatever I'd be getting through pure questing.


It's got merits, it's got faults, and it's going to find it's own audience. It's not gonna be some juggernaught, but it's not going to just face-plant.

Lets Push Things Forward

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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

2/05/11 12:25:31 PM#33

Killing wow, rofl only blizzard can do that,  rift is a rip off of warhammer and other games put together.  It is not going to kill anything.



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2/05/11 12:26:23 PM#34

Well I wont say stop saying this WoW killer stuff but will LOL. Rifts an ok game its just we all seen most of this in the many games that have come before. If a company really wants to do something new they need to start from scratch and make the game completely behind closed doors with out a open invite to beta. This way when it comes out its fresh and new.

I personally think the MMO-gaming world just isnt in it anymore for the ture aspects of the mmo but more for who can make the most money off there title. But in my opinion Rift might do big but wont top WoW cause Blizzard will kill its own game with time. Most people want something new and fresh not recycled to death game. See AoC had a good concept but to small of a game then Darkfall could of been the next best thing if it was not such a niche game, even DDO was in a class of its own but again to confined of a game to really do what the players wanted in a D&D game open world. But all these games are ok not great or the best. So if a company come along and makes a WoW killer its going to have to be one hell of a title with open world no instances no zoning at all and huge. I mean 4x to 5x bigger then any mmo released before it. And completely diverse in character creation and development that it dwarfs all others. If a company did this and had a questing system never before seen and not the routine norm quest's then yes it might just happen till then most companys will ride the norm train till mmo's become a fading part of the genre kinda like sports games. Theres a million sports games and every year 20 more come out that say there better then the year before but there really no different maybe just little tiny changes and graphic update.

So to all you this game will kill WoW it's just not going to happen it might put a tiny dent in it but it wont kill it or anything else. And it wouldnt surprise me to see something similar added to WoW that copys the rift system for there next update they are famous for taking the best stuff from an mmo and adding it to there own. But we will see. As for me I cancelled my pre order for this cause it does not fit me type of game I enjoyed the beta there was not very many bugs or issues I could find its a very polished game and runs real good for what it is. Other then my own issues with it being same old same old.


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To me I enjoy gaming I dont play to be uber I play to have fun. If a game is not fun to me guess what I move on and play something else till I find one that is. When I find that great game and not sure if in my life time there will be one I hope it has everything I want in an mmo.


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2/05/11 12:27:10 PM#35

As a huge Rift fan and former avid WoW player i will say this. Rift is good. It is very good. In fact, with luck, good management and the right expansion/patch material, Rift may even directly compete with WoW. But it will not 'Kill' WoW. It perhaps may draw even with WoW's numbers in, 2-3 years (Assuming newer games don't crush them both) but WoW will never die. Just like EQ still isn't 'dead'  If the servers are still live, and theres at least 200 or so people online, then the game is not dead.


For people who hate it, WoW is just like the evil character from a horror just...won't...die. Ever.


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2/05/11 12:27:48 PM#36

WoW killer?


I am waiting for the Rift killer personally...

*taps his foot while looking for GW2*


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2/05/11 12:28:45 PM#37
Originally posted by Warsaurus

As a huge Rift fan and former avid WoW player i will say this. Rift is good. It is very good. In fact, with luck, good management and the right expansion/patch material, Rift may even directly compete with WoW. But it will not 'Kill' WoW. It perhaps may draw even with WoW's numbers in, 2-3 years (Assuming newer games don't crush them both) but WoW will never die. Just like EQ still isn't 'dead'  If the servers are still live, and theres at least 200 or so people online, then the game is not dead.


For people who hate it, WoW is just like the evil character from a horror just...won't...die. Ever.

Just like some of the bosses in Rift, I mash buttons 1-4 constantly, but it just won't die.


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2/05/11 12:32:02 PM#38
Originally posted by MattDaddy10

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Some hate the current crop of mmos, can still like the genre for what it is at it's core. It's a great game for you, for me and many other it's a boring recycle.


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2/05/11 12:32:50 PM#39

I will give Rifts the benefit of the doubt that it is a good game. However, it order to be a "wow" killer it has to be more than just a good game. I think EVE Online is an awesome game. I think that Champions is better than DC online. I think Pirates of the Caribbean is also pretty cool also. However, WoW is more than just a good game. It is an entire industry. There are 12 million people that play WOW. That is a huge market share. Just because you got game doesn't mean your taking home the prize. 

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2/05/11 12:33:14 PM#40

I'm soooo gonna love necro'ing this thread.

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