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  musicmann

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2/01/11 11:30:34 AM#41
Originally posted by nvrsbr
Originally posted by musicmann

The only sandbox game i ever played was SWG and it was never in this state when it first launched. It also gave the players a bit more direction that what ER is giving for sure. I remember just logging into SWG for the first time right in the middle of Corellia city. Even though i was like a lost puppy, you could clearly see trainers, bazzars, the spaceport and after choosing which proffession you wanted, the meatlumps right out of the city were prime picking for grinding xp. ER, even though is in the same vain, it seems to be just in a very messed up state and doesn't seem like it will ever reach that type of polish SWG had in the sandbox mmo genre.

MHS against SOE... you are joking right.

Yea i guess it was a bad comparance. On the other hand, if you're gonna put a game out in this day and time, you better have more to offer than what ER seems to be pushing. It's kinda of a shame that even though MHS is a indie dev comapny it doesn't bode to well for them that a game  like SWG that came out so long ago had more polish, better UI and was more stable.

  User Deleted
2/01/11 11:32:59 AM#42

My vote was for DCUO until I played earthrise last night. The developers even admit the game is broken, unfinished, and nearly unplayable but they are pushing it out anyway because the are broke and need the players to pay so they can finish the game : P

Blink blink

So sick of game developers that think their customers should be used as revenue to cover developement costs.

Ennn

That is the job of investors.

If a game developer mismanages their budget, then you fire them, hire new managers and find more investors to finish the project.

If the can not turn out a good game for a resonable and projected amount of money then they should all lose thier jobs and go out of business, otherwise they polute the market and taint the investor pool, making that much harder for the next grassroots company looking for investors.

  crysent

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2/01/11 11:34:34 AM#43

The OP is exaggerating a lot.

 

I've played the beta for about a month now - its not perfect, far from it.  The graphics are ok and the controls take some getting used to.  However if you have the attention span of an adult, give it a few hours of play and are reasonably intelligent you will find Earthrise to be a good little sandbox.  The PvP is a lot of fun, the controls are similar to Darkfall, they take getting used to, but if you actually give them a shot they become second hand.

This game isn't for everyone, but is certainly no where near as bad as the OP makes it sound.  I personally am going to pre-order it, I've had lots of fun in the beta and look forward to playing it at release.  To each their own I guess..

  Sicc1

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2/01/11 11:39:47 AM#44

The same people that buy this at launch are the same people that bought MO and DF at launch. The people that need full loot pvp and skill systems. Theres just not many options aout there.

Unfortunately theres no big company backing these niche games so they allways come up short on release. All the normal MMOS are backed by huge wallets and release in way better condition than Earthrise will but  those other games are all the same.

For me the ground work  is here for an amazing game. Its in a bad way rite now but i hope it does well. I cannot play games like Rift, theres nothing there, its the same game ive been playing for years.

The complaints are valid games should not release like this. But when the moneys gone its gone they have no choice i suppose.

Darkfall - Sick
Earthrise - Sick

  hammarus

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2/01/11 11:43:31 AM#45

First off I'll disregard all posts mentioning not knowing what to do where to go.  Its a sandbox game (EvE like) not a hold your hand tell you what to do game (WoW).  As to performance issues, those posts, I tend to give some consideration. 

Also, as i dig thru the dozens of posts, I weigh the posters, post count, against what they say.  So, for you posters with sub 100 posts (like myself),  ripping this game I do hope you know what your talking about.  And yes post count does matter, in the internets world, it shows a certain amount of care for this particular genre to have a high post count.  That or you like to see yourself post, much like hear yourself talk.  Tho, I tend to believe the former.  And what that is showing is there is more to like about this title than to dis-like.

  sungodra

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2/01/11 11:45:16 AM#46

It appears that this game may be a runner up for worst game of the year, if not THE worst game of the year... but I need a beta key to see what it is like for myself. I heard the words SWG somewhere in this thread.  I'm an old swg vet here, so the game may be of interest to me.


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  musicmann

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2/01/11 11:52:17 AM#47

Even with the lag and disconnects i don't think that's the real problem of the game. Those things come with the territory of mmo's in general and can be fixed. I think it's the throwing players in the middle of nowhere without some type, even though it needs to be small, direction. The reason i used SWG was because like that, this is a game that seems to be in the same vain. MHS could of atleast started you off in a city where you had some type of bearing on what to do, how do you get from point A to B, bazzars and crafting stations in a central location to figure out how to use and such and just a place to figure things out.

For a game that is coming out in a few days and even though the devs have given their timetable on many of the issues, it seems that if they just changed a few things, it would give the players the time that is neede to get their feet wet.

  wallet113

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2/01/11 11:53:49 AM#48

WoW Cataclysm.

  Agricola1

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2/01/11 11:55:16 AM#49
Originally posted by Sicc1

The same people that buy this at launch are the same people that bought MO and DF at launch. The people that need full loot pvp and skill systems. Theres just not many options aout there.

Unfortunately theres no big company backing these niche games so they allways come up short on release. All the normal MMOS are backed by huge wallets and release in way better condition than Earthrise will but  those other games are all the same.

For me the ground work  is here for an amazing game. Its in a bad way rite now but i hope it does well. I cannot play games like Rift, theres nothing there, its the same game ive been playing for years.

The complaints are valid games should not release like this. But when the moneys gone its gone they have no choice i suppose.

 I agree with this, open world sand box games are pretty much indie developer projects and few and far between nowadays. So people like me that like this type of MMO have a choice of spending the cash for a new sand box once or twice a year or sitting on my arse moaning about how an indie developer can't release it in a polished state (not that the big corporations like Blizzard or SOE can anyway).

So either I buy now and play and hope MHS is the next CCP or play nothing and whine on forums about it until one comes along or I die of old age! The money isn't that big of a deal (I spend more on cigars and drinks in a week than MMORPGs in a year), so I say **** it!

If it does a crash and burn then well it's another horror story for me to recant on the MMORPG.com forums to some nub in a few years that thinks the lead dev of X project is the second coming of Brad McQuaid until I remind him of the total disaster he had with ER ;)

If not then I'll be happy until I get bored of the game and something new comes along, it's like buying a good cigar. A Habanos doesn't come cheap but you have to buy it and smoke it before you know if you like it, reading reviews of self confessed "Afficionados" just doesn't cut it so you have to accept the risk if you want to widen your tastes. If money is too much of a problem go back to smoking old holborn and if you got a free smoke to sample it and didn't like it ... just STFU and don't complain like a ****ing muppet!

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

CS Lewis

  Vayran

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2/01/11 11:55:49 AM#50
Originally posted by Celusios

This game is probably the worst MMORPG title on the market. Anyone who does not believe me get a beta key and hop into the game. Character creation is lacking as crap, UI sucks, and of course the movement controls are HORRID.

 I agree with pretty much all your points having played in the Beta, however Worst Game of 2011 is a little premature.

There are a lot of games releasing in 2011 and I dare say there will be several stinkers amongst them, that'll make you look back and say "I guess Earthrise really wasn't that bad"

  Yamota

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2/01/11 11:58:43 AM#51

Does not surprise me really. After Mortal Online and Darkfall, I have pretty much given up on indy developed games. Very rarely are they any good, even in Eve it suffers from horrible UI and silly dbl-click to move system.

Even F2P games hold higher quality than these indy developed games.

  Quicksand

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2/01/11 12:02:25 PM#52
Originally posted by =FTS=Fish

I'm having a great time with my guildmates playing! Yea, the lag sucks, but the core is whats important. The little stuff can be, and will be fixed.

This type of game is not for everyone, but for the guys out there bashing it while it's still in beta, yer whiners. Ya havent paid a dime and yer still willing to talk trash.

* I think thats what beta is for, to see whats wrong then tell someone about it.. 

So, whatever game you do like...Play it!  Stop wasting yer time posting.

* If they are trying to beta test the game (it is beta as you pointed out) then how is it wasting time, they are testing then reporting what they found (NDA was lifted and the publisher actually stated on the beta forum they wanted us to "tell our friends about it")

I had a SWG moment tonight..Standing with a friend of mine on a large plateau, overlooking a choke point, and envisioning a base camp. Would have build a campfire with chairs to sit and talk about it, but thats not yet an option.:)

* This sums it up I think...

Now, I dont mean to dawg ER, I had very high hopes, but I do agree its not near ready, this game feels like Alpha, not closed beta, not open beta and certainly not ready to launch in two days or so. I am a bit disgruntled with ER, but  that is my fault, I set my expectations to high I guess, I think I made the mistake of expecting Earthrise to be good. My bad

 

Maybe I just miss Tabula Rasa too much.

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  Lumanil

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2/01/11 12:05:31 PM#53
Originally posted by Tredo

Well, I have played for about 3 hours total, there is not story line, there is not direction, graphics are no better than Runes of Magic, UI is for sure something from 2001 or before. The game play sucks, there is not course of tutorials for anything other then go kill this with this gun, go kill this with this other gun and thats about it. Once you get off the n00b island more of go kill this, and then go kill that, no tutorial for crafting or anything else. You basically walk around lost and hope someone tells you were to go find the mob you need to kill. Controls are horrid, you have to know the right combination of keys to get the outcome you need in order to pick something or to click something or to go into combat mode or look around... horrible set up. Epic fail imho worse then FFIVX.

Are you sure, you are talking about Earthrise and not Rift ???

  Quicksand

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2/01/11 12:07:26 PM#54

I should also add (since I have said a few things bad about ER) I do see alot of potential in this game, and if all goes well at launch and right after, I will prob buy it after their planned April additions to see if its any fun at that point.

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  Quicksand

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2/01/11 12:09:41 PM#55
Originally posted by Lumanil
Originally posted by Tredo

Well, I have played for about 3 hours total, there is not story line, there is not direction, graphics are no better than Runes of Magic, UI is for sure something from 2001 or before. The game play sucks, there is not course of tutorials for anything other then go kill this with this gun, go kill this with this other gun and thats about it. Once you get off the n00b island more of go kill this, and then go kill that, no tutorial for crafting or anything else. You basically walk around lost and hope someone tells you were to go find the mob you need to kill. Controls are horrid, you have to know the right combination of keys to get the outcome you need in order to pick something or to click something or to go into combat mode or look around... horrible set up. Epic fail imho worse then FFIVX.

Are you sure, you are talking about Earthrise and not Rift ???

Please, if anything, Rift holds your hand too much, but nice attempt at redirecting the flames...

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  sungodra

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2/01/11 12:09:57 PM#56
Originally posted by Lumanil
Originally posted by Tredo

Well, I have played for about 3 hours total, there is not story line, there is not direction, graphics are no better than Runes of Magic, UI is for sure something from 2001 or before. The game play sucks, there is not course of tutorials for anything other then go kill this with this gun, go kill this with this other gun and thats about it. Once you get off the n00b island more of go kill this, and then go kill that, no tutorial for crafting or anything else. You basically walk around lost and hope someone tells you were to go find the mob you need to kill. Controls are horrid, you have to know the right combination of keys to get the outcome you need in order to pick something or to click something or to go into combat mode or look around... horrible set up. Epic fail imho worse then FFIVX.

Are you sure, you are talking about Earthrise and not Rift ???

 Get off of rift dude. It is nothing like that guy just described, and you know that it is Earth rise he is refering to. It's one of those sandbox games, what do you expect to hear from people... Most people want to get into a game and be having fun from the jump, not start having a small amount of fun 2 weeks or a month later to find an empty game with nothing going on and a small community.

 

not saying this will be like that, I haven't played it... I'm just a lil irritated that you take a shot at rift, when rift is the total opposite.


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  xpiher

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2/01/11 12:10:55 PM#57
Originally posted by cyress8

 


Originally posted by astoria


Originally posted by Celusios


Originally posted by gigat


Originally posted by Celusios
This game is probably the worst MMORPG title on the market. Anyone who does not believe me get a beta key and hop into the game. Character creation is lacking as crap, UI sucks, and of course the movement controls are HORRID.


I haven't played the game yet. Character creation, UI, and movement controls? That's it?
What about other aspects of the game?


It was so shitty I couldn't even bother. This is all opinionated of course... I couldn't even really move. Like tradtionally you can click or move with WSAD. Well you can move with WSAD however, it's not entirely accurate nor does the camera move. Character creation you get like 10 faces to pick from, and a few hair styles. You cannot customize anything but those (and race of course and skin color/hair color). UI looks like some stuff from 2001. The quests made no sense.. nor was there a story introduction to explain anything going on.
 
On a positive note, it does have some pretty nice looking graphics.



So you came posting here because you didn't read the big popup window telling you how to move and switch combat and movement modes? okay. move along.


You can dismiss his statement, however, he is correct. The controls really do need some work . They just do not flow as well as other mmo games or even a single player TPS game. Tabula Rasa had decent movement and shooting controls. They will probably get it up to that level in time.

 

 

The controls don't need any work. You can switch to standard wasd movement by typing in /wqse enter and you can switch to standard FPS movement by hitting TAB. If you can't be bothered to read the manual for a game then you will suck playing sandbox games. Seriously, have the complains about this game stem from the "UI" and yet people don't bother reading the manual or realizing "oh its an FPS game too UI HAS TO BE DIFFERENT Herp adurp" 


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  Ryukan

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2/01/11 12:13:02 PM#58
Originally posted by Quicksand
 
Originally posted by =FTS=Fish

I'm having a great time with my guildmates playing! Yea, the lag sucks, but the core is whats important. The little stuff can be, and will be fixed.

This type of game is not for everyone, but for the guys out there bashing it while it's still in beta, yer whiners. Ya havent paid a dime and yer still willing to talk trash.

* I think thats what beta is for, to see whats wrong then tell someone about it.. 

So, whatever game you do like...Play it!  Stop wasting yer time posting.

* If they are trying to beta test the game (it is beta as you pointed out) then how is it wasting time, they are testing then reporting what they found (NDA was lifted and the publisher actually stated on the beta forum they wanted us to "tell our friends about it")

I had a SWG moment tonight..Standing with a friend of mine on a large plateau, overlooking a choke point, and envisioning a base camp. Would have build a campfire with chairs to sit and talk about it, but thats not yet an option.:)

* This sums it up I think...

Now, I dont mean to dawg ER, I had very high hopes, but I do agree its not near ready, this game feels like Alpha, not closed beta, not open beta and certainly not ready to launch in two days or so. I am a bit disgruntled with ER, but  that is my fault, I set my expectations to high I guess, I think I made the mistake of expecting Earthrise to be good. My bad

 

Maybe I just miss Tabula Rasa too much.

 I feel exactly the same way; I was really looking forward to this game and almost blindly dropped money on the preorder after waiting to get in the beta for years. Finally got a beta key from MMORPG.com a few days ago and the game is very Alpha stage feeling. I'm not disgruntled so much as I am disappointed. Maybe the game will be in a better state 6 months from, but it needs A LOT of polishing and improvement before I would spend any money on it. A long time of anticipation for a short time of let down.

  SysFail

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2/01/11 12:19:05 PM#59

I like it, its got flavour. It is of course a game that will create much hate due to the game mechanics.

Some people simply cannot stomach FFA-PVP, chuck in looting also and they will cry wolf about how bad a game is just because they couldnt handle the rule-set.

If your bored stupid of the current candy cane MMO's then you should keep tuned to this title along with another little indie title called Xyson thats shaping up nicely also, just dont listen to whiners and dismiss a game like a good little lemming due to their own biased view, but wait and make your own informed opinion when the time comes. :)

  Xerith

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2/01/11 12:24:15 PM#60
Originally posted by Vandali

I like it, its got flavour. It is of course a game that will create much hate due to the game mechanics.

Some people simply cannot stomach FFA-PVP, chuck in looting also and they will cry wolf about how bad a game is just because they couldnt handle the rule-set.

If your bored stupid of the current candy cane MMO's then you should keep tuned to this title along with another little indie title called Xyson thats shaping up nicely also, just dont listen to whiners and dismiss a game like a good little lemming, but wait and make your own informed opinion when the time comes. :)

Or we can complain that the game is just bad. No real art direction, terrible mesh design, clunky game play, terrible optimization for a game that looks like it was released circa 2004, terrible animations with the fact that you cant even tell where someone is shooting you from half the time. Can all of these be fixed in time? Sure. Should I have to pay $14.99 while basic mechanics that should be ready and polished at launch get fixed? Nope. 

I do like, however, that when someone complains about it they must just be some casual who hates FFA PvP. Ive spent a lot of time in old UO, Darkfall and EvE, I have no problems with different control mechanics or FFA PvP with full loot, and I still think Earthrise is a terrible game with inexperienced devs and no financial backing. 

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